The question I was trying to understand was when does the batter give himself up on the drop third strike? I have a 12U team playing with junior baseball rules.
The MLB rule would stand that the minute the batter walks out of the home plate circle(he gives himself up), but we are being told the dug out(must walk into the dug out). The dug out is half way to first base if your the home team. So(and this has happened)you get a kid who heads back to his dug out and no one has realized what just happen and then out of no where the kids takes off for first base because someone screams that was a drop third strike.
If the dug out where set back maybe I could understand that but again MLB says once you leave the home plate circle.I was under the understanding that Junior baseball rules where the same as high school with the exception of bat weight drop.
Maybe I'm just missing something...
It happened yesterday... the batter swings & misses at a bounced pitch for strike 3. Turns around & takes 3 or 4 steps toward 3B dugout. Coach yells "tag him". Batter turns to run, dances into the area in front of the plate evading the catcher to run toward 1B. Catcher throws him out at 1B, but the batter at first gave himself up, then appeared to be more than the approx. 3' from the baseline to avoid a tag. Two no calls by ump before the toss out at 1B???