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#22618 - 08/08/11 08:36 PM Long Island Sound - Off!
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I'd like to get some feedback / reaction regarding the Long Island Sound's 18U Connie Mack 2011 Summer season. After spending about $1,200 for the summer season, seems to me the Sound will promise the moon and deliver Canarsie. "Parents, your sons will be playing 50 games of baseball this summer and will play in both Connie Mack and LIBA to insure they see quality competition. No need for tournaments, they will be too busy. I don't like to travel and besides they rip you off anyway" Coach Stanga assured everyone gathered at the pre-season meeting. Well, 24 games later and no LIBA league ever materializing (we do fill-ins), I have to analyze this business model. $950 for baseball, $200+ for the crappiest see through uniforms ordered on-line (complete with the name of Coach Stanga's new baseball gym interest (IBF) on several pieces), to play 24 games in Connie Mack that is offered by other teams for $400 plus uniforms. Seems to me that I'm an un-named equity investor in a Suffolk County baseball gym that I'll never use (besides that's another $60 / month). Our sons were "Coached" (if a three clap atta boy from the third base line qualifies as coaching) by Coach Conners who from time to time might pick his head up from texting or eating while in the dugout. Practice? That's for the other guys...too much effort. Perhaps our $$ paid for his lunches? No...I think it paid for Coach Stanga's College team trips to Utica and Toledo, OH. Anyone else out there as happy as I am? Perhaps IBF stands for "I Be Fooled". Final analysis: you tell me?
Chips Ahoy!

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#22632 - 08/09/11 02:35 PM Re: Long Island Sound [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Congratulations to the Long Island Sound College Team for winning the 2011 NABF Northeast Regional Championship in Utica, NY.

In the 2011 NABF College World Series (the Sound's 2nd World Series berth) held in Toledo, Ohio; the team finished 2-1 in pool play to advanced on the the Elite Eight round where they lost to the eventual champion Utica Brewers.

Good job!

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#22637 - 08/09/11 03:57 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Seems pricey. U know the old saying, if it seems to good to be true, it probably is. Buyer beware.

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#22660 - 08/09/11 07:11 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Chips Ahoy, you seem to be another victim of this big travel organizatons disregard for common decency. This monolithic organization preys on parents and kids dreams. Like you said, "they promise the moon and deliver Canarsie." Before they get the check, they tell you everything you want to hear, like they will get your son in front of this college coach and that college coach. They will tell you that they were able to obtain scholarships for a large number of thier players, which later you find false. Coach Stanga and the Sound are notorious through out the Long Island baseball community for not delivering on thier promises. A friend of mind was complaining about this team a couple of weeks ago. In the spring I advised him to stay away from this organization, but he fell into the trap and wrote a check. He showed me a letter, dated February 2011 that stated that the team will particpate in two leagues and play approximately 50 games durring the summer. Well, that did not happen, they did not even play half of the promised games. The Sound historically was a team based of St.John the Baptist players, but as more and more were burned by Stanga's false promises, they fled elesware. There is no development here, just stick up men dressed as baeball coaches!

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#22663 - 08/09/11 07:22 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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There should be a consumer affairs division set up to police these organzations that are robbing us of our hard earned money!

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#22681 - 08/09/11 09:43 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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I think the take away is to check out the organization carefully and the coaches assigned to the team even more so. I saw this team play and have to say I was not impressed. Flat-footed, lazy approach by basically every player who took the field. Chips makes a good point; I did see the coach sitting on a ball bucket texting when his team was in the field. On a wild pitch the catcher was looking for the ball in the backstop and the coach never even looked up. That's not acceptable coaching at any level of baseball no less what the Long Island Sound represents themselves to be. Won't be sending any of my boys to their tryouts.

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#22683 - 08/09/11 11:55 PM Re: Long Island Sound [Re: Anonymous]
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Not hating on the College team. God bless 'em. Just not looking to finance anyone (college team or otherwise) or anything (IBF Gym) other then the team we signed up for! What is this, Bernie Madoff Baseball?
Chips Ahoy!

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#22692 - 08/10/11 09:02 AM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Anonymous]
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Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Chips Ahoy, you seem to be another victim of this big travel organizatons disregard for common decency. This monolithic organization preys on parents and kids dreams. Like you said, "they promise the moon and deliver Canarsie." Before they get the check, they tell you everything you want to hear, like they will get your son in front of this college coach and that college coach. They will tell you that they were able to obtain scholarships for a large number of thier players, which later you find false. Coach Stanga and the Sound are notorious through out the Long Island baseball community for not delivering on thier promises. A friend of mind was complaining about this team a couple of weeks ago. In the spring I advised him to stay away from this organization, but he fell into the trap and wrote a check. He showed me a letter, dated February 2011 that stated that the team will particpate in two leagues and play approximately 50 games durring the summer. Well, that did not happen, they did not even play half of the promised games. The Sound historically was a team based of St.John the Baptist players, but as more and more were burned by Stanga's false promises, they fled elesware. There is no development here, just stick up men dressed as baeball coaches!

"big travel organizaton"? "monolithic organization"?

The LI Sound have 4 teams:
College (20-6)
18U (12-9)
16U 15-6)
14U (21-0)

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#22702 - 08/10/11 09:01 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: MacDaddy]
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Other organizations are like this also. I know several families who have paid Storm a bunch of money and not gotten what they were promised.

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#22703 - 08/10/11 09:14 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Not hating on the College Team. God Bless 'em. I just want to pay for one team, and not finance another teams success or a gym (IBF) that has no utility to me. What is this, Bernie Madoff baseball?
Chips Ahoy!

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#22707 - 08/10/11 10:00 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Sounds like Stanga stole your milk money and Coach Conners ate all of your cookies! Seriously, I really enjoyed the "stick up men dressed up in coaches uniforms". That's classic!

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#22737 - 08/11/11 02:22 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Looks like the Sound might be in defensive mode based on a few Anonymous Posts? That's OK but they're not disputing the original post by Chips. Last year in Connie Mack, the Sound was the team to beat; disciplined, well coached, great field presence. So what happened? Did they go from 2 to 4 teams and spread themselves too thin? The original post speaks to quality, quantity and value. Based on last years Connie Mack performance, who wouldn't want to be part of that team? Be they a small organization or a giant monolith, it's hard to mistake quality when a coach and his team take the field and make no mistake, this year they looked like bums! Call it what you like, bait and switch, greed, makes no matter. It sounds like an 18U team and whatever talent they may have had got screwed out of an important season and whatever hopes they may have had to develop.

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#22764 - 08/12/11 05:02 AM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: MacDaddy]
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"Sounds" like someone didn't do their homework. They carry too many kids on their roster, which means your paying too much for your kid to get splinters on his behind...
And not for nothing but I guess using names went right out the window with this thread?

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#22796 - 08/12/11 10:24 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Re: Post 22764; "Sounds" right. Tough to admit, but it seems that one good season does not make a great organization. But that's where this website provides so much value...wish I would have found it sooner but a year ago I suspect that only good reviews would have been posted. As to naming names, both individuals have put high school long behind them so no guilt there. Looking forward to fall ball. Any suggestions for 18U in East Queens, Nassau, or West Suffolk? Chips Ahoy!

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#22827 - 08/14/11 12:15 AM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Don't know much about the Sound, but the story sounds the same. I also expected more from the travel team my son plays for, and didn't not get anything close to what they promise at reg. meeting or what their web site says that your child will receieve. They talk committment, by the kids and maybe they should sign something at the beginning of the year about their commitment to players. As for the Storm, they are cheaters. How any parent can tolerate or think what they do is right for their kids has to have their head examined. I will never let any kids I know go near them. Seems no matter where you play their are issues. Wonder if the teams I'm watching play in the LLWS have these problems, or is it only LI Ball?

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#22854 - 08/14/11 05:56 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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I would like to start by saying that the LI Breaker North team is absolutely one of the nicest bunch of kids I've seen in a long time. Unfortunately the coach staff is made up of a bunch of Dads (Click) that dont know their ass from their elbow. They did everything in there power to lose every game. All their kids were partial players not worthy of being a LI Breakers. I was told when I first called the organization that Neil Heaton was still part of the Breakers, later I found out that was a lie... Its really a shame we went to a one game elimination and because they were afraid of hurting players feelings yet again left these partial players in too long. Every game we lost was like rewinding and watching the same game over and over. On top of that we heard this passed weekend that they werent even supposed to you use "The Long Island Breaker Name" please be aware of these imposters!!! I am so sick of the daddy baseball cry baby crap... We actually had a stat keeper who kept the book and gave his own son fictatious base hits to make himself feel better you should be ashamed of yourself these are kids and should be treated equally... I am not taking nothing away from the Breaker organization but maybe they should monitor their teams so they have a future instead of a bunch of parent (11 of us) at another organization tryout!!!

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#22904 - 08/15/11 06:26 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Anonymous]
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Hey Ray thanks for the Breaker comments to bad you have no clue what you are talking about.

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#22923 - 08/16/11 07:49 AM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Anonymous]
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It sounds like the poster is a disgruntled parent (there is at least 1 on every team) who's child didn't play much, probably because he is not that good (sorry to say). Many of the Breakers teams are coached by parents along with a lot of other teams around the leagues. When you get into teams with professional coaches that drives your fees up into the $2500.00 to $5000.00 range a lot people can not afford that. I think the poster doesn't know his ass from his elbow, does he really want us to believe that a team would go out purchase uniforms and be an "imposter" Breaker team without anyone from the organization knowing about it. If you have a problem with your team call the manager did the poster ever do that? when you have parents like this it ruins it for the players, the other parents, the coaches and everyone else. This is why you see certain kids on new teams every year.

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#22950 - 08/16/11 03:33 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Anonymous]
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All anyone has to do is go on the Long Island Breakers website and they will see a 2011 team page for the Long Island Breakers North. Is this parent THAT clueless? By the way, Breakers West is managed by a salesman, and Breakers East coaches are a hospital coordinator and an electrician. So your point about "a dentist" is what? All the Breakers 14u teams seem to be doing very well without the help of "professional" coaches. Maybe a little appreciation for a guy willing to donate his time to expose kids to a very competitive level of baseball is due here? I would love to see how many different uniforms this poster has purchased over the years in search of his "utopia". Good luck!

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#22953 - 08/16/11 04:07 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Can't say I know much about the Breakers but I've had experiences in both Dad coached teams and "paid" coached teams. Knowing more then a little about league, insurance, and umpiring fees, my expectations of a paid coach, especially with a "brand name organization" is higher, thus my points regarding the Long Island Sound. My son also played this season in NJBL for a "Dad" coached team and have to say without reservation, "Dad" worked harder, was a far better communicator and motivator, and inspired what by some might be defined as a second string team to their division championship. "Dad" never played college ball but kept the team focused on the basics as well as having some fun. Contrast that to the very expensive three clap clown that allegedly "coached" the Sound. There are good and bad coaches in both categories. My expectation would be less variance among the "paid professionals".

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#22956 - 08/16/11 04:37 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Why does dad coaching get such a bad rap. I understand to a point, but not all dads who coach put their child on a top of "HE THE BEST". Those who do ruin their team. When I coached, my child probably got yelled at more, because I expected him to be the example. I didn't let him get away with anything, so they knew if my son was getting yelled at it wasn't going to stop me from doing it to them. I never batted my son first, if anyone had to sit my son would be the first. These coaches (dads) who do, do this are only out their for their son not the love of the game.

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#23009 - 08/17/11 06:40 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Anonymous]
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not posted by Ray but would love to meet this guy since he shares the same views as me.
thanks frank sullivan

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#23010 - 08/17/11 06:43 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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The Breakers team is a good organization and true it has two teams coach by the people mentioned above. However, there is also another team that WAS run by a dentist as for not know my ass from my elbow. I may not know anything about baseball but as a mother I can say this, I know what is right and wrong. If you take players on a team to keep them on a bench just to fill the spot to get money for other kids to play you should be ashamed of yourself. As for being a disgruntle parent. No one should keep a kid out of a game to stroke a grown mans ego because he knows his kid stinks and doesnt want to put his son on the bench because he runs the team. Baseball is a team sport and you teach your kids nothing if you play it this way. keeping kids out of a game is not fair to a player and not fair to the parents who bust there ass everyday to get the money to play and get there kids on time to games. Also keeping a kid on the bench is never a reason to post a comment. The real reason people post is because people like chips ahoy, tony monty and the other anonymous keep turning a blind eye to the things going on with these teams. I know that most of the travel teams today were formed by dads who have kids that should be playing in house ball instead of travel. just because you have the money to buy a team doesnt give you the right to be a coach. coaching is being part teacher of the game and part role model. what kind of example do men who have no idea how to be both give these kids. keep it the way it should always be about teaching ALL the kids the game. So called "coaches" should keep it from being pissing contests and just play the game.

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#23015 - 08/17/11 09:32 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Anonymous]
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Who mentioned Breakers East and West ???

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#23017 - 08/17/11 09:46 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
Anonymous
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Its so easy to expose the thieves when they're so quick to say somebody's kid is not good enough. There is a tryout involved so the only answer I come up with is that you're putting kids on your team to collect fees

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#23018 - 08/17/11 09:53 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Anonymous]
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My hat is off to you if every coach used that thinking process we all be in a better place.

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#23020 - 08/17/11 10:28 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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When you pay for "Coke", you should get Coke, not C&C Cola.

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#23022 - 08/18/11 12:30 AM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Anonymous]
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Wow I cant believe you guys stayed into the summer season. LOL I thank god I left right after spring. I saw that immediately and knew I had to get out of there I guess I should be happy my son played.

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#23059 - 08/19/11 02:27 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Anonymous]
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Well Mom, I don't think I've written a bad word about anyone on this blog with the exception of the Long Island Sound, who in fact allege to use paid professional coaches. I have posted positive comments about parent coached teams and can only use my own experiences as a reference. Obviously, there are lots of different experiences represented by those who have posted and they are entitled to express them both good and bad. Please don't paint all of us with such a broad brush because you're angry.

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#23060 - 08/19/11 03:14 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Anonymous]
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I have been around travel baseball for a long time this post about the Breakers is bugging me,they are a very good organization that does not pick clueless people to run there teams.When you do a little research you find out that the breakers north team went 13-11-1 not terrible by no means. The original poster is trying to make them out to be a awful team because they are coached by dads etc. They were in a division with a high priced professional coached team that went 1-20, so does it make a difference of a professional team vs a dad coached team? the debate will go on. As another poster stated the breakers west team is coached by a salesman, breakers east a hospital coordinator and an electrician so what is the point that it was coached by a dentist? I feel that the original poster is full of crap, he was all ready proven wrong saying that they were an "impostor" Breaker team when they are listed on the website. When I looked at there roster they had 17 kids on it that is a hard number to deal with probably a big mistake. Another poster suggested they put more kids on the bench just to take there money, that is just a ridiculous statement especially since they are coached by a dentist. If you felt like you were being taken advantage of speak up (not on these forums to you coach). Its a shame a lot of these parents have no idea what it takes to run a team between dealing with the leagues, getting insurance, ordering uniforms, going to meetings, picking up balls, trying out players, making phone calls, the list goes on all for a love for the game. If they think it so easy they should try it!

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#23066 - 08/19/11 07:55 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Anonymous]
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Yet again the Poster did not mention the East and West team. Why carry 17 kids if they're not playing dont know many teams who carry that many but you know defensive people are usually guilty. Ok its not a debate and they keep blaming the poster its many people who feel this way but dont have the balls to say anything lets do the math how many kids did you just lose??? Stop and just think did I do something wrong you are human we were in a one game elimination and your so called all star kids werent on the field. You would be investegated if this was a professional team for throwing games "Pete Rose". Its over I'm done "Its all about the kids" have a clue thats why these kids dont enjoy baseball its supposed to be an enviroment for learning and good experiences.

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#23087 - 08/20/11 11:19 AM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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This discussion seems to have left the rails... What was the original thread about? East, West, South, North, "breaking" the speed of "sound"; who's on first? Third base! Ponderous!

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#23096 - 08/21/11 11:07 AM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: MacDaddy]
Anonymous
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I Agree!!!!!!

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#23137 - 08/23/11 07:05 AM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
Anonymous
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CGI is it worth the money or is it a bunch of parents just trying to get there kids on the St. Anthony's baseball team since CGI tries to run it? The guy that owns it is the most obnoxious person I ever met!

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#23197 - 08/24/11 07:11 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Question: are the coaches and/or owners of these so-called elete travel teams reporting their income to the IRS?

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#23198 - 08/24/11 07:15 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Anonymous]
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From my experience these elete travel team owners are salesman like Mr. Haney from green acres. Like one of the previous posters stated, they will promise you the moon and give you Canarsie. I wonder if Arnold Ziffle could do a better job coaching?

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#23199 - 08/24/11 07:24 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Its time that the schools distance themsleves from travel ball.

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#23204 - 08/24/11 09:42 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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So I'm hearing the Long Island Sound is charging $1,100 for the fall season! Also hear they had a tremendous turnout (nails scraping on a chalkboard sarcasm). BUT, hey it includes a 6 month membership in IBF Gym. Chips has an idea...for only $2,500 I'll start an 18U Fall Team, get Ronnie McDonald and Bozo to work the lines. But only for the first twenty kids, I'll give them Blue Cross! For $3,000, I'll throw in Dental!! You can't make this stuff up people. I think we'll call the team Big 2 and Oh! Time for some milk & cookies...Chips Ahoy!

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#23205 - 08/24/11 09:48 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Gentlemen: can we spell "elete" correctly .

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#23217 - 08/25/11 01:30 AM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Originally Posted By: Chips Ahoy!
So I'm hearing the Long Island Sound is charging $1,100 for the fall season! Also hear they had a tremendous turnout (nails scraping on a chalkboard sarcasm). BUT, hey it includes a 6 month membership in IBF Gym. Chips has an idea...for only $2,500 I'll start an 18U Fall Team, get Ronnie McDonald and Bozo to work the lines. But only for the first twenty kids, I'll give them Blue Cross! For $3,000, I'll throw in Dental!! You can't make this stuff up people. I think we'll call the team Big 2 and Oh! Time for some milk & cookies...Chips Ahoy!
U R NUTS!!!! & A MALCONTENT! GO AWAY!

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#23250 - 08/25/11 05:37 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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RE:23237: Pass the Charmin, I'll clear my throat! Now we can also turn on the lights as well. What does introduce mean, is there a business relationship or not? Is it free or is it $60; or built into the price of baseball? At any time have I questioned the notion that better, more accessible and affordable training is a bad idea? I also know a few Sound players who did use the facility (at $60/month) who improved considerably under the guidance of the mentioned individuals (FACT)! And all three Sound teams (18U, 16U, and College) posted winning seasons. What my Anonymous critic does not say is what I've said out loud...don't sell me a gym and call it baseball, call it a gym membership. If it's built into the price, the cost is there, it can't be avoided. Don't sell "quality college experienced coaches led by Bob Stanga" and provide lazy, disinterested clowns who can't be bothered holding a practice. Don't say 24 games of baseball equals 50 games of baseball. Don't say that individual gym workouts will build team chemistry and dynamics, it won't. It's really all about what is not said, that it's a package deal. For some there is value in that, kind of like buying your hotel and airfare from travel agent, NO PROBLEM, but don't tell me I'm paying for the hotel and include the airfare when I'm driving, that's subterfuge. Mother of God, I'm having a battle of wits with an unarmed (and unnamed) person. Pass the ammunition! Chips Ahoy!

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#23252 - 08/25/11 08:30 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Anonymous]
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This thread has the distinct smell of someone who has it in for one of these coaches-is it possible your ""all star" kid played backup or didnt even make the team at a certain catholic high school-it goes beyond disagreeing w/The Sound-and more of the personal vendetta theme.

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#23260 - 08/26/11 12:18 AM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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I have a question re: Long Island Sound. How come when the Sound Players ordered their uniforms on line, they HAD to buy IBF Logo Gear?

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#23265 - 08/26/11 07:56 AM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Anonymous]
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Did they hold a gun to your head--"they had to", you should have asked for a refund if you thought you were getting a raw deal right off the "bat"
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Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I have a question re: Long Island Sound. How come when the Sound Players ordered their uniforms on line, they HAD to buy IBF Logo Gear?

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#23283 - 08/26/11 02:08 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
Anonymous
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YADDA! YADDA! YADDA!

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#23286 - 08/26/11 03:25 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
Anonymous
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its a bunch of old LI Mariner coaches and instructors. stay away

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#23289 - 08/26/11 04:39 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Charlie, it's not personal or about one individual, it's about being told a story that's made of whole cloth and responding with "The Torpedo of Truth". You can relate to that! Re: posts 260 and 265, the fee did not include uniforms. The players were instructed to order their uniforms from a web based firm, some items required, some optional. If we can agree that a baseball hat is required, then why does it have an IBF Logo? If you were playing for the Yankees, would you get a Yankee hat or a YES hat? The money's gone, there are no refunds; it's in the past. But Charlie, you really have to show me how to do the Internet streaming thing. I bet I could have fun with that! Chips Ahoy!

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#23315 - 08/27/11 02:50 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Got ya "cookie man", apparently the Sound is not "winning" in your playbook-they carry too many players is my concern for the price, this thread seems to be a little too personal though[never seen names used before w/o getting edited by moderator], we all have done our time $$$ w/ certain organizations and learned our lessons and moved on, by the way chips my new show is going to be called two and a half coaches...
Originally Posted By: Chips Ahoy!
Charlie, it's not personal or about one individual, it's about being told a story that's made of whole cloth and responding with "The Torpedo of Truth". You can relate to that! Re: posts 260 and 265, the fee did not include uniforms. The players were instructed to order their uniforms from a web based firm, some items required, some optional. If we can agree that a baseball hat is required, then why does it have an IBF Logo? If you were playing for the Yankees, would you get a Yankee hat or a YES hat? The money's gone, there are no refunds; it's in the past. But Charlie, you really have to show me how to do the Internet streaming thing. I bet I could have fun with that! Chips Ahoy!

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#23348 - 08/28/11 02:12 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Why is it when someone does something good some people complain? This past summer my son was a member of the U16 Sound and I want to convey his/my experience with this team. Sean and his coaching staff performed a remarkable job in developing my son and his teammates. Sean held optional practices at his Academy which cost me and the other parents an additional $60 each month. Many of the players would work out for 4-5 hrs a day as many days as this wish for the same $60, nothing more.

Sean transformed a large number of these boys into ballplayers improving their game dramatically. What’s wrong with that? Yes, the summer Sound cost was $950 and we had to pay for the uniforms on-line separately. Yes, these uniforms came with the IBF logo on the shirts and hats. SO WHAT, most kids and parents could care less. I for one supported the idea because I am sold on what Sean is looking to accomplish and how it legitimately helped my kid and his teammates. Why wouldn’t I want to help him? I witnessed first hand what Sean has to offer and was very pleased!

My son has played with many different organizations and we were not pleased with what was delivered from those other so-called elite travel programs. Sean has exceeded expectations on what he delivered this past summer with my U16 Sound team.

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#23352 - 08/28/11 06:01 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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I wanted to re-post my previous post with the corrected typo's.

Why is it when someone does something good some people complain? This past summer my son was a member of the U16 Sound and I want to convey his/my experience with this team. Sean and his coaching staff performed a remarkable job in developing my son and his teammates. Sean held optional practices at his Academy which cost me and the other parents an additional $60 each month. Many of the players would work out for 4-5 hrs a day as many days as they wish for the same $60, nothing more.

Sean transformed a large number of these boys into ballplayers improving their game dramatically. What’s wrong with that? Yes, the summer Sound cost was $950 and we had to pay for the uniforms on-line separately. Yes, these uniforms came with the IBF logo on the shirts and hats. SO WHAT, most kids and parents could care less. I for one supported the idea because I am sold on what Sean is looking to accomplish and how it legitimately helped my kid and his teammates. Why wouldn’t I want to help him? I witnessed first hand what Sean has to offer and was very pleased!

My son has played with many different organizations and we were not pleased with what was delivered from those other so-called elite travel programs. Sean has exceeded expectations on what he delivered this past summer with my sons U16 Sound team.

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#23360 - 08/29/11 08:45 AM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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My son also played with the U16 Sound this past summer and we were extremly happy.

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#23365 - 08/29/11 11:56 AM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Anonymous]
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its a bunch of old LI Mariner coaches and instructors. stay away
Wrong! Only Sean K. used to work for the Mariners; nobody else.

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#23368 - 08/29/11 01:51 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Anonymous]
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Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Why is it when someone does something good some people complain? This past summer my son was a member of the U16 Sound and I want to convey his/my experience with this team. Sean and his coaching staff performed a remarkable job in developing my son and his teammates. Sean held optional practices at his Academy which cost me and the other parents an additional $60 each month. Many of the players would work out for 4-5 hrs a day as many days as this wish for the same $60, nothing more.

Sean transformed a large number of these boys into ballplayers improving their game dramatically. What’s wrong with that? Yes, the summer Sound cost was $950 and we had to pay for the uniforms on-line separately. Yes, these uniforms came with the IBF logo on the shirts and hats. SO WHAT, most kids and parents could care less. I for one supported the idea because I am sold on what Sean is looking to accomplish and how it legitimately helped my kid and his teammates. Why wouldn’t I want to help him? I witnessed first hand what Sean has to offer and was very pleased!

My son has played with many different organizations and we were not pleased with what was delivered from those other so-called elite travel programs. Sean has exceeded expectations on what he delivered this past summer with my U16 Sound team.


Was this written by Sean? It certainly seems like he's mentioned himself quite a few times...Just saying.

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#23371 - 08/29/11 02:22 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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I think this board let's us talk about both the good and the bad. It really becomes a matter of perspective, sour grapes for some, self promotion for others. What's that byline Fox News uses - we report, you decide.

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#23373 - 08/29/11 03:56 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Anonymous]
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Do the math! $60 per month for unlimited training. Go to another facility and see what they charge, did I hear $80 an hour. It appears to me that has upset some of the big facilities that are out there.

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#23377 - 08/29/11 07:52 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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RE: post 373: One more time. I heard good things happened with the 16U team and that Sean payed good attention to those players. If your son played on the 18U team, you would sing a different song. I'm really tired of posting math examples here but one more time for those imbeciles having difficulty: 24 does not equal 50, free does not equal $60, and finally, Bally's is $19.99 a month unlimited. Last I heard they are a national franchise? Where's Charlie? Spin up tubes 1-8 and load the torpedoes, I'm getting some cookies & milk, I'll pour you a glass and we can watch Two and a Half Coaches (a new classic!) Chips Ahoy!

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#23380 - 08/29/11 10:31 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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OMG! Chips made a typo...sorry. "Sean paid good attention..." Mut have dropped a cookie in my milk! Chips Ahoy!

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#23412 - 08/30/11 03:37 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Unbelievable! It is apparent that Sean's players and parents are very happy with what he delivered. It is also clear that some of the U18 Sound parents were very unhappy with what was not delivered. It is extremely obvious that the U 18 team was not winning as defined by Charlie Sheen and there were no milk and cookies given out by Chips Ahoy! While this thread has become extremly entertaining, The lesson learned here is that we all need to do our homework before we hand over our hard earned money.

BTW where are the voices of reason on this board, Bring the Heat, In the know, Been Around, and Spanky?

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#23483 - 09/03/11 12:06 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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The Long Island Sound is an organization that caters to St. John baseball players. If your son attends another high school don't bother to join. Not having parents coach is a definite plus, but beware that Stanga sometimes closes down a team (after you have paid) and places the players on existing teams. So rosters can expand to over 20 players, which means a lot of sitting around especially during doubleheaders.

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#23798 - 09/13/11 03:40 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Bob Stanga is no longer running the junior the divisions of the sound. Sean Kammerer and Mike Ferrante are. They were the coaches of the Sound 16U division. I highly recommend what these 2 gentleman bring to the table. If they run the future sound 13-14U, 15-16U, and 17-18U the way they ran their 16U this past summer, (which they will b/c these 2 individuals actually care about their ball players in their factory) several people through out long island will be happy again. Long Island has been waiting for 2 young individuals like this to make a change...........

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#23807 - 09/13/11 11:02 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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This will seem like a movie cliche: But What About Bob? I don't see him giving up the Sound branding rights for free. If he and Coach Towers are going to commit to teaching / coaching the college team, God Bless. But Sean and Mike can't allow history to be repeated, they are only two guys who can't possibly be intimately involved in coaching three teams and operating the IBF enterprise at the same time. So what happens next? Does Kevin "3 Clap" Conners get another shot because his brother has the inside track at SJB? Perhaps Sean and Mike will read through this thread and draw some valuable lessons: quality is better then quantity, start small and grow naturally, don't get too big or too greedy, focus on your core business, hire quality, deliver what you promise. My unsolicited advice: you gain nothing by associating yourself with the Sound brand because it is the property of Bob Stanga and influenced by SJB; maybe you should market your team(s) under the IBF Brand, build a reputation (SSBA is doing that in Nassau) and distance yourself from "stick-up men dressed in coaches uniforms". And lastly, good luck!

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#23857 - 09/16/11 03:27 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Sounds fair.

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#23896 - 09/19/11 12:16 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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The bigger problem in all of this is that the school like SJB, St Doms, St Anthony's, Chaminade, St Marys have all their baseball programs being run all year long now with the guys in charge of the programs running outside teams and organizations.

CGI, Storm, Whalers, Sound all have teams that include for the most part all their players from school and outside guys as well but it really creates a feeling that if you attend teh school you "Need" to play for these teams in the summer and if you don't attend the school your wasting your time as they are going to help and work their guys first.

It seems on the face that its a conflict that the school admins would want to avoid but my experience is the school not only allow the relationships but encourage them to continue and flourish.

I run a business that has nothing to do with baseball and if these practices were taking place in my industry there would be at least some measures put in place to seperate the two.

I understand that baseball is a business and I'm no babe on the woods but "perception is reality" and right now the perception is that these relationships are getting stronger as time goes on and people are feeling the pressure.

It's nice in the summer to travels and play with a different set of guys and have some fun and get away form the pressure of playing for the same coach 12 months out of the year.

Thats just one guys slant on this not saying its right or wrong just throwing it out there.

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#23900 - 09/19/11 11:16 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Re 23896: They are all very fair observations and speak to the business of baseball in both Suffolk and Nassau County. But as consumers and parents, we are boxed in. It's really extortion in the truest sense in that we're damned if we do and damned if we don't. The schools, faith-based and public don't want any part of this mess, so they close their eyes in fear of denying their coaches outside employment opportunities. One of my favorite quotes on this thread is "stick-up men in coaches uniforms". Sort of says it all! Pass the cookies and milk. Chips Ahoy!

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#23903 - 09/19/11 11:51 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Anyone hear anything about the LI Braves. This once very respected organization has been around a long time and has provided quality baseball to many. I'm hearing that teams and long time coaches have left. And that would be sad.

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#23905 - 09/20/11 01:00 AM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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What R U talking about???? U know nothing idiot!!!
Duhhhhhh!

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#23936 - 09/20/11 09:10 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Re: 23905; Now that adds tremendous insight to this thread. Thanks for your contribution. Chips Ahoy!

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#23953 - 09/21/11 05:19 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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I do not have an account here on called strike 3 but it is granting me the opportunity to make a post and leave my thoughts and beliefs with you. My name is Sean Kammerer. I've been reading several threads including the ones on this site and many others. Even the post that was believed to have been posted here saying that I have been boasting about myself and my organization. I do not need to hide who I am nor do I need to boast about myself because it is in the past and I am currently in the future. I am proud of my accomplishment and firmly believe in the phrase "hard work pays off." Well I hope this clears everything up for everyone. I'm here to tell you that yes baseball on Long Island has gone to complete crap. I hate to break it to everyone but its not a secrete either. Many would also agree with me including professional organizations and scouts. These cheap organizations follow the phrase "who cares" and its because they really dont. In the mist of everything no one really does care b/c they keep going back and asking for more b/c there wasn't anything different out there. These people want money and only money, they are business people who are not looking for your dedication but your MONEY. Here are a few facts for everyone to enjoy and to give you a better understanding of what is really going on out there. Its also not a secret that high school baseball has gone from a place where college coaches could confide in the head coach to help recruit ball players and unfortunately it has pulled a complete 180. This is a very simple concept. I want everyone who is reading this post to really take in what I'm about to say. For too long I've been around people in this game, and not everyone, but a lot of them have no business being in the baseball position that they are in. Straight up, I stand before and ask you one simple question, what do you do for a living? Some may do marketing, some may be lawyers some can be teachers, most important of all some of you are parents. How would you feel if I walked into your line of work and said I'm going to do your job better than you, with out training and change the industry for the better. What would you say to that? If most of you have a decent head on your shoulders you would think I'm completely nuts and laugh in my face. Well guess what, what do you think I'm doing when I see parents coaching and coaches who are supposed to be paid coaches not giving a **** and have no business being there. This isn't going to change unless someone makes a change. This isn't a marketing or a selling point. This is the god damn truth. I played catholic school baseball at kellenberg, played at sacred heart university (d1), played 2 season overseas b/c I needed to earn everything I ever got, not hacve it handed to me. Instead if sitting home and doing nothing with my life I went around the world to prove that hard work does pay off. Many of people have told me over the years "it cant be done" I'm hear to tell you that it can be done with HARD WORK, DEDICATION and LOYALTY. Several organizations on long island, even ones i've worked for don't give a crap about your sons nor their futures. College baseball meant a lot to me, and to see players on high school teams that have no business wearing the uniform and will never play college baseball due to the fact that they can pay a fee for summer ball which pays other peoples salaries who have no baseball background in the 1st person at all. Hate to break it to all of you out there, but you needed to play this game to understand everything about the sport. This is not a business plan for me. This is a battle plan and I refuse to cater to the rest of the Long Island travel teams, b/c thats all they are just teams. No one and I mean no one has PROGRAMS that DEVELOP ballplayers (lessons once a week is not developing a ballplayer)any longer except for one........ thats all i have to say.

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#23955 - 09/21/11 07:48 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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My kid plays for one of the above Catholic Schools. I have experienced being held up by the so called stickup men dressed in coaches uniforms. Last year my son choose to play on a nonschool team and he suffered when it came to playing time on his school team. I went to the school administrators and all I received was lip service that they have nothing to do with the outside travel organization and they told me that the travel team and school have no connection. But my son was receiving written and verbal communications from the travel team through school. Last but not least, the travel team utilized and had the exclusive summer and fall rights to the school field.

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#23962 - 09/22/11 08:28 AM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Sean - you make many good points but be careful of falling prey to generalizations. You close off your post with an incorrect statement. There are same/many teams that develop players. The issue is finding the right situation. Once the summer season starts the big organizations - fill in the name - become individual teams. Little to no guidance is provided from the home office. If you have a coach who is dedicated and passionate you have hit a home run. Get someone who is there for a paycheck and....... Same for parent coached teams - some good some really bad. Keep up your good work and good luck.

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#23989 - 09/22/11 12:53 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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the last statement wasn't incorrect and here's why. You can't develop a player from once a week lessons, and 6-10 week winter work out. It takes months, even years of dedication working with someone to steer you in the right direction. Most travel teams do not practice, and the ones that do are run by parents. A parent who played only high school baseball if that doesn't meet my standard as someone who can develop talent. I'm sorry but that statement is very true. The reason being, is that its up to the facility that the players belong to, to develop them. The coaches are just their to coach. They don't get paid enough to develop talent and coach at the same time. If these coaches were paid more they would work harder, and if you give them a place to do that and not charge on top. I feel that the coaches should be the ones training the players b/c those of the people to whom the players are playing for. There shouldn't be a different instructor. Develop from within, thats a real program. Colleges dont' hire outside help, they do it themselves b/c they care aobut their product

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#23991 - 09/22/11 01:08 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Anonymous]
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Homerun Sean-u got guts posting on this blog--good luck w/ team-I'm done on this subject/blog-I think this thread should have died awhile ago and is being onstantly revived for a reason...
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I do not have an account here on called strike 3 but it is granting me the opportunity to make a post and leave my thoughts and beliefs with you. My name is Sean Kammerer. I've been reading several threads including the ones on this site and many others. Even the post that was believed to have been posted here saying that I have been boasting about myself and my organization. I do not need to hide who I am nor do I need to boast about myself because it is in the past and I am currently in the future. I am proud of my accomplishment and firmly believe in the phrase "hard work pays off." Well I hope this clears everything up for everyone. I'm here to tell you that yes baseball on Long Island has gone to complete crap. I hate to break it to everyone but its not a secrete either. Many would also agree with me including professional organizations and scouts. These cheap organizations follow the phrase "who cares" and its because they really dont. In the mist of everything no one really does care b/c they keep going back and asking for more b/c there wasn't anything different out there. These people want money and only money, they are business people who are not looking for your dedication but your MONEY. Here are a few facts for everyone to enjoy and to give you a better understanding of what is really going on out there. Its also not a secret that high school baseball has gone from a place where college coaches could confide in the head coach to help recruit ball players and unfortunately it has pulled a complete 180. This is a very simple concept. I want everyone who is reading this post to really take in what I'm about to say. For too long I've been around people in this game, and not everyone, but a lot of them have no business being in the baseball position that they are in. Straight up, I stand before and ask you one simple question, what do you do for a living? Some may do marketing, some may be lawyers some can be teachers, most important of all some of you are parents. How would you feel if I walked into your line of work and said I'm going to do your job better than you, with out training and change the industry for the better. What would you say to that? If most of you have a decent head on your shoulders you would think I'm completely nuts and laugh in my face. Well guess what, what do you think I'm doing when I see parents coaching and coaches who are supposed to be paid coaches not giving a **** and have no business being there. This isn't going to change unless someone makes a change. This isn't a marketing or a selling point. This is the god damn truth. I played catholic school baseball at kellenberg, played at sacred heart university (d1), played 2 season overseas b/c I needed to earn everything I ever got, not hacve it handed to me. Instead if sitting home and doing nothing with my life I went around the world to prove that hard work does pay off. Many of people have told me over the years "it cant be done" I'm hear to tell you that it can be done with HARD WORK, DEDICATION and LOYALTY. Several organizations on long island, even ones i've worked for don't give a crap about your sons nor their futures. College baseball meant a lot to me, and to see players on high school teams that have no business wearing the uniform and will never play college baseball due to the fact that they can pay a fee for summer ball which pays other peoples salaries who have no baseball background in the 1st person at all. Hate to break it to all of you out there, but you needed to play this game to understand everything about the sport. This is not a business plan for me. This is a battle plan and I refuse to cater to the rest of the Long Island travel teams, b/c thats all they are just teams. No one and I mean no one has PROGRAMS that DEVELOP ballplayers (lessons once a week is not developing a ballplayer)any longer except for one........ thats all i have to say.

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#24010 - 09/22/11 11:55 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Sean, I would applaud your post if I understood it. You make arguments that would lead an uninformed reader to believe that you have been producing PROGRAMATIC results for years. Sorry, not so. At such a young age, you really should leave the Gospel of Baseball to be written by those with greater experience. But you are nonetheless impressed with yourself and rather brief resume. Battle plans written by PFC's usually don't work out so well in any arena. It takes more than guts. I was hopeful there for a short while that you understood the issues discussed on this thread, sometimes with levity and at other times with venom, but you don't. You're just too self-absorbed, and that's all I have to say. Chips Ahoy!

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#24029 - 09/23/11 10:08 AM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Anonymous]
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Sean - my post was to be careful of making sweeping generalizations. My older son played for a big organization where the team had no "practices" but both coaches were at every game 90 minutes early and that is when they go thier work in - and plenty of it. You belittle parent coached teams where they only played high school. Some/many played beyond high school. For those of us a bit older than you there were no unaffiliated leagues to continue playing careers as professionals. The bottom line is that develpment is the responsibility of the player and by extension the parent. The player (and parent) must do thier homework before signing up whether an established organization or not. Good luck with your goal of creating more and better baseball opportunities.

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#24041 - 09/23/11 12:09 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Actually i think this guys resume is pretty impressive-college ball and overseas is something not too many players will get to-congrat

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#24057 - 09/23/11 04:01 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Anonymous]
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The best performers in any given sport/ occupation does not necessarily equate to being a good TEACHER. Yes, it is definitely an advantage to have played at an advanced level of baseball, however are you good at translating that experience into teachable components? That's what a good coach can do.

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#24077 - 09/23/11 11:14 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Great point. Kevin Long and Larry Rothschild did not exactly enjoy HOF careers but certainly have demonstrated an ability to break down fundamentals and make their areas of expertise learnable because they can teach. While upper level coaches and scouts look for kids who are "coachable", have those kids been given the benefit of a good coach, teacher, role model? Sean, you may have enjoyed your HS and D1 College time, no doubt, that alone does not give you instant credentials. You are not the only guy out there with that experience but at this time you're the only one boasting about it. You had one good year with Sound 16U, great for you and great for those kids. Come back in three years and show us you can replicate it again and again and show me where last years U16 kids get picked, then you're talking. Right now, it's all cause you say so.

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#24087 - 09/24/11 09:05 AM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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as they always say the proof isin the pudding

this guy had a good year with sound 16u.
tell him to post the names of his players to commit to collges, either D1 D2 or D3 that is why we all do this stuff right? we want our kids to play college ball. Or do we just want them to travel around and spend money on hotel rooms for the fun of it.

the level doesnt matter but did he get them seen and wanted by colleges?
post the names. we all want to know hot GOOD you are

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#24089 - 09/24/11 09:30 AM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Sean - You and about 12,500 other guys play D1 baseball every year in the United States thats 360 D1 schools X 35 man roster.

I don't know where you played overseas and in truth what that even means. What it tells me is you are a good baseball player and what it also tells me is you have a lot to learn if your on this site talking about how you know all the ills of LI baseball.

LI baseball is a mess no one will debate that but I firmly feel that you do not require major league experience to coach youth sports. What you need to coach at any level is to define the word coach and manager.

Coach is a person and in every sprot in increasing numbers almost position specific to break down and teach a player the tasks of playing the game both physical and mental.

Manager is a guy who knows how to motivate people get them to all play like a unit, know when and how to push the buttons and build a relationship of trust with his players.

You need both on a team and in the rare instance where someone can pull off both thats great but in every level of baseball except youth the manager is in the dugout managing and his coaches are on the field.

In the egocentric world of youth sports most "managers" have to coach third base and I have seen many even doing the book while standing there.

I think again you don't need and even in some cases its better not to have been the best player all your life to be a coach or manager.

Sometimes the middle of the road guy that had to work hard and practice everyday to stay in the line up or get the chance is a better teacher as they had to do drills and take hours of bp to stay afloat and thru that developed a level of information that they can pass along and go to the mat with it as they walked the walk.

The best players in any sport rarely can teach what they were gifted with. Hard to teach a gift.

Sean I don't know you but having a team do well in one season does not in my sense give you the right to boast about this in a public forum and trash everyone.

I managed a team last year that put two kids in D1 ball six in d2 and the balance of the team is playing d3 ball a few kids left baseball to just enjoy school. You know the name of my team? No, and you know why? Becasue I just go about what I do and don't make any nosie about it.

I played another sport not baseball thru HS and college and my teams always seem to do well and more important my players get better playing for me becasue we work on the basics over and over again.

Put up a ten year record and do it with all types of teams and then we can sit here and debate with an equal footing. Until then keep working hard and good luck in 2012.

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#24092 - 09/24/11 09:36 AM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Anonymous]
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Who are the guys playing college ball from your team?
Are they on any of these lists here? Nice Job. People shold probably know who you are.

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#24121 - 09/25/11 01:09 AM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Just because you had a privileged education at a private HS (Kellenberg) and got into a private D1 school doesn't make you a good coach! (both had losing records with you playing!)
And telling a parent to shut up and back off just because they didn't play college baseball is ignorant and wrong!
Get off your high horse (Shorty)!
You're no better than anyone else.
Especially a father that is looking out for his son's best interest! Grow up!
BTW, if it wasn't all about the money and all about player development, why did you sit players for both games of a doubleheader? SHAME on you! Shame, for making a player feel worthless!!
KARMA!
BTW, yeah I wasn't smart emough to get into a D1 college, but I did go straight from HS into the minors (2 years).
According to you and your narrow view I don't qualify to have an opinion or coach.......

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#24125 - 09/25/11 10:41 AM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Can anyone tell me how many players returned to Sean's Sound team this fall. Like a previous poster stated, the proof is in the pudding. I just want to know how many chocolate chip cookies are left in the mix. If he retained a substantial amount of players, his recipe for success is good, if not, it's back to the bakery for reformulation.

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#24128 - 09/25/11 12:38 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Is Sean still with the Sound?

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#24130 - 09/25/11 02:33 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Re: posts 121 and 125: So it took a while, but Sean came out and made a stand and now his cookies could not stand up to some dunking. With 5K views and nearly 100 posts later it almost has gone full circle to my original assertion: "I Be Fooled"! And still no answer from the gym regarding "What About Bob?" Good to read the variety of opinions and watch the landscape change over time. If nothing has been accomplished here other than some keyboard cramp, a lot of people who've read through this can now draw their own conclusions as to whether or not they want to throw their cash and entrust their sons baseball development to the actors written about though out this thread. As for me, I'm going to open a fresh sleeve and crack open an ice cold bottle of Dairy Barn's freshest and pour a short glass (easier to dunk). Chips Ahoy!

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#24166 - 09/26/11 10:14 AM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Anyone have any knowledge regarding the College Prep Baseball program?

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#24187 - 09/26/11 07:36 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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My son played for Stanga's Sound team last summer (2010). He promised this and that but fell very short in substance. We did not play a large amount of the scheduled games and the roster was a bit large. To be fair I have to say that the coaching was good but I would have liked to seen more practice time. A large amount of the parents did not return this summer and played for a SJB parents team for about half the cost, small roster, and alot of playing time. You can burn someone once and they will move on. Stagna forgot that we the parents are consumers and want a return on investment other than empty promises.

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#24188 - 09/26/11 07:44 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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My sons friends played for the Sound this summer and had mixed reviews. Stagna promised 2 leagues and did not deliver. But Sean developed his players spending alot of time with them at his facility. I was told that June was free and then $60 a month for Unlimited training 7 days a week. I am being told that Sean's instruction is quality.

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#24192 - 09/26/11 08:04 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Chips, I have been enjoying your posts. I wish I could drink milk and eat cookies but my stomach has been burning with the good money I have thrown down the drain. To all parents: please read these posts and do your home work before investing your good hard earned money in these programs. Do your kid a service and place the money in a 529 plan instead of being fooled and having no money left for college when your kid does not receive a scholarship.

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#24398 - 10/04/11 04:17 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Can anyone tell me what is the average price for travel ball on teams on LI? Also what do you get for that price.

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#24413 - 10/05/11 03:39 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Depends on program and the age, Can range from anywhere from 900 - 4k.

Thats like asking how much a car costs, Chevy or BMW

If you have a team that trains in winter does gym work a Boys of summer season of baseball and six to eight tournamenst has a paid coach plus equipment and insurance at the 16u age level with uniforms will run you 2100.00 - 2400.00 Thats based on a 12 - 13 person roster.

If yo have 16 players could be less if you play for a big organization could be more.

Shop around and get it in writting what you are going to get for your money and understand pay does not equal play. If you are on a team that has 16 or more players good luck.

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#24434 - 10/06/11 01:01 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Anonymous]
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Thank you, I understand it was a broad quesitons, but I wanted to know what you pay and get for your money.

Winter workout
Uniform
BOS or NJBL
Tournaments
Paid or Unpaid Coaches
Equipment? What equipment...... These kids bring their own
I do understand that some money goes toward umpire and field costs for whatever league
So I guess the $2400 is the norm.
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#24448 - 10/07/11 07:26 AM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Equipment= Coaches Gear, Game Baseballs, Practice Bucket Baseball, Scorecards , Lineup cards, Xtra Batting Helmets, some case bases

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#24464 - 10/07/11 03:58 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Anonymous]
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Coaches gear ok I'll buy it LOL. Amazingly enough, I don't see a mention of first aid. Does any team carry a defibultor for their team. Isn't it required to be at all fields. Can any coach say they know where they are at at the fields we play on. I don't even see your standard first aid kits on any benches.

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#24467 - 10/07/11 06:16 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Anonymous]
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Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Coaches gear ok I'll buy it LOL. Amazingly enough, I don't see a mention of first aid. Does any team carry a defibultor for their team. Isn't it required to be at all fields. Can any coach say they know where they are at at the fields we play on. I don't even see your standard first aid kits on any benches.
defibulator

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#24515 - 10/09/11 11:07 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
Anonymous
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A team that has their own field has to pay for it. Coaches hotels/tolls/gas. Paid coaches, umpire fees, practice balls, game balls, coaches for winter workouts, facility rentals, league fees, tryout costs. Trust me it adds up to A LOT OF MONEY

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#24546 - 10/10/11 02:19 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Yes, it does cost money to run an organization. This thread is about the Sound and Bob Stanga. There were no hotels, tolls, meal allowances for this summers U 18 team. We the parents were told we were being provided with top quality instruction that was to include practice. We were also told that our boys would play in two leagues. None of this happened!

Signed a disgruntled parent who was fleeced.

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#24554 - 10/10/11 04:19 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Equipment= Coaches Gear, Game Baseballs, Practice Bucket Baseball, Scorecards , Lineup cards, Xtra Batting Helmets, some case bases

Case of beer for after the game , because the freaking parents drive you nuts!

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#24566 - 10/10/11 07:25 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Equipment
Coaches gear- Shorts, Sweatpants, Jersey, Sweatshirt, Jacket = $300
Game Baseballs = $36 a doz (24 games) 12 Doz = $450
Practice Balls= $80
Scorecards/Lineup Cards= $20
Xtra Batting Helmets (6) = $180
Case Bases (3)= $300
Case of Beer = $35
$1,365 / 20= $68.25 per player

Ok, now lets add the other costs:
Uniforms = paid separately by the parents
Umpire Fees = $70 per game X 24 games = $1,800
League Fees = $2,000

Total:
Equipment (including case of beer)= $1,365
Umpire Fees = $1,800
League Fees = $2,000

Costs Grand total = $5,165. Total costs for team or $258.25 per player for 20 player roster.

The U18 Sound charged $950 per player X 20 players = $19,000 income from entire team - total costs of $5,165 = $13,535 profit or does a paid coach cost that much?

Not a bad income for one team.

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#24644 - 10/11/11 11:02 AM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Anonymous]
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Oh please what are you the spelling police.

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#24645 - 10/11/11 11:02 AM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Anonymous]
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Oh please what are you the spelling police.

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#24682 - 10/11/11 07:01 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
Anonymous
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I thought the Sound had 4 teams??

$13,535 X 4 = $54,140 tax free, someone call the IRS!

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#24736 - 10/12/11 03:24 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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I'm back! RE: Posts 24566 and 24682; I knew someone was out there with a calculater! Ask me, thats a whole lot of Cookies and Milk!! So back on page one of this thread, I asked about value and now there are numbers to illustrate the point. Are "What About Bob?", "Three Clap", and the rest of the "stick up men" providing value for the price? And Sean's going to lecture us on his "program". Who be fooling who at the Gym. "And remember parents, the Long Island Sound is a 503c not for profit so you can deduct you fees from your taxes."-Bob Stanga quote, Winter Parents Meeting @ SJB. Like I said, its Bernie Madoff Baseball and these guys have nothing on Nick Cosmo. Send'em to jail! Chips Ahoy!

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#24745 - 10/12/11 04:23 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Hey Chips,

So tell me...what organization on Long Island is actually developing players?

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#24746 - 10/12/11 04:57 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Let me ask you a question you to play the other side, when you buy a car or a washing machine do you care how much money the person selling makes? Same with baseball if a guy says 2k and i will give you this and he does whats the problem.

If the guys doesn't deliver what he says then thats an issue. But if I say xyz and deliver and you say ok and pay what is the issue.

Unless I forgot we live in America and most products sell at what the market will bare. If people didn't want to pay these fees these people would all be out but CGI, Storm, Sound, Whalers, Prospects, Titans, Ducks, Barn Stormers, The Breakers, Renegades, Bandits, Cougars, Wolfs, Frogs and Hippos etc.... all have customers lining up at the tryouts and dropping money.

If you Bob can get 2k so can I and so it goes. What I'm saying Chips and others back off if people don't want to pay they wont plenty of teams out there that don't charge big bucks but you think baseball is only sport like this you have no clue try playing Hockey talk about costs you guys would [***censored***] yourselves there.

Soccer another huge sport with trainers chargeing 100 an hour per kids with a team of 20 kids do that math 2k a seesion!

Girls Softball catching up very quickly to baseball same promises college scholarships.

Wake up people sports is a business at the pro, college and now youth level, pay the price or get left behind you don't see to many teams that charge 375.00 for the seaon winning many leagues and tournaments do you.

Want cheap play local Little League Junior and Senior and Big League programs about 350.00 and have fun.

Stop complaining it is like buying a BMW then coming on here and bitching that is cost to much and holy crap BMW made x amount of bucks off me. Grow up and shut up already.

If someone is ripping people off for real say something but don't talk about IRS and stuff like that it is slander and unless you are on the inside and are deep throat and really know the facts don't throw numbers ou there attached to names and kill people in a public place and you don't even use your real name but you use theres.

Thats not fair talk in general terms but when you tallk IRS and connect peoples names to that that is some real world [***censored***] and you should be careful with that.

Thats just another angle take it for what its worth.

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#24750 - 10/12/11 06:55 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Sounds like someone hit a nerve

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#24752 - 10/12/11 09:31 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Anonymous]
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If a salesman misleads me on a purchase of a car or washer I would want restitution and/or punitive action taken again the salesman. Chips is not talking about the Storm, CGI, Whalers, etc. He has been talking specifically about the U18 LI Sound and "what about Bob." If Bob delivered what was promised I am sure that Chips would be eating his cookies and drinking his milk alone at his kitchen table. But Chips can't sleep at night to the gurd condition caused by Bob and his false promises. This website is Zantac for Chips and he is alerting all of us to his experience with this team. We all make decisions in life and we can buy and drive a BMW or a Fiat. Stanga did not even produce a Coopdeville at the bottom of a crackerjack box!

You go Chips Ahoy! We need more people like you alerting us to situations like this.

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#24764 - 10/13/11 10:14 AM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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To the post above if Chips has "GERD" not "Gurd" thats fine but it sounds like sour milk to me and I got the meatloaf reference also.

Point is if you are going throw a rock attach a note with your name otherwise it doesn't mean anything. If I call you and [***censored***] and you don't know who I am am I just stiring the pot or do I have facts.

If someone posted my name and IRS in same sentence I would sue this site and then sue the person who posted it by making the site give up his IP address.

You want to talk in riddles and try and be cute thats BS be a man state your business and YOUR NAME. Otherwise your just another whiny LI [***censored***]. Or as we used to call people from LI when I lived in Brooklyn FLIDS

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#24765 - 10/13/11 10:43 AM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Response to Post 24746: Do you always start reading a story on Page 10 and form an opinion by Page 11? But nonetheless I'll respond to the thoughts expressed by an obviously vacant mind: If I order and pay for a 335i in Black with the Premium Package and am delivered a 131i in Green with a Leatherette Interior, I'm not happy and rest assured I won't shut up or go away. (BTW I drove my 2000 BMW 325i for 6 years and 140K miles and it looked and felt like showroom quality when I traded it in.) When an organization makes money (as illustrated), and they deliver quality coaching that grooms and prepares the talent on their respective teams for the next level, delivers on the promised number of games and competitive league play, I'm going to support and promote that organization. If its a bait and switch, I've the right, and a venue (here) to bring that into the light of day. Its never been about the dollars and cents (although my Anonymous accounting friend did a great job), its about value (but you'd know that if you bothered to read the thread). I'm sorry if the light offends your sensitive eyes, but your narrow "angle" is indicative of a myopia. Perhaps you should put your head back in the sand...or wherever. If someone calls the IRS, the MLB, the BBB, or the CIA, its not my issue...you reap what you sow. Now I'm sure there is some soccer, hockey, lacrosse, or sewing circle forum out there that is interested in your views. Go there. Happy sailing! Chips Ahoy!

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#24785 - 10/13/11 08:00 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Hey post#24764, look who is calling the kettle black, Mr. Anonymous! First, you post as Anonymous also. Second, you correct a typo, but seem to have several in your response.

I guess you spend a lot of money on attorneys, Chips was just making a statement about his experience that he had with the principle of the LI Sound. This is America, he has the right to be a critic, as long as he does not slander. These posts on this site and thread are performing a service, just like Consumer Reports and are providing reviews based upon real life experience. This site offers a valuable service to parents who are looking to perform their due-diligence.

Since when can you deduct your kid’s baseball fees from your taxes??? Can I write off my weekly bowling fees and bar bill? If Stagna informed parents that he would provide them with a donation letter when they paid their kid’s baseball fees, he needs to be investigated for possible fraud. So what you are threatening Mr. Chips with is a lawsuit, because he is alerting the readers of this site of possible fraudulent practices and a potential whistleblower to a possible federal crime????

Mr. Chips has a distinctive writing style that those of poor reading comprehension might define as "cute or talking in riddles." I define his technique of getting his message across as that of a highly skilled writer. His style offers a bit of levity to a sad situation as he is painting the picture for all to see.

I have been reading these posts and have come to possibly understand why you take offense to Mr. Chips. Is it because be said, Stagna offered the Moon and delivered Canarsie? I get it; your roots must be from Canarsie? Is that why you’re sore?

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#24805 - 10/14/11 05:32 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Maybe you missed my point and that is unless you can prove taht fraud 100% you can't come on here and talk without back up.

You can say what you want until you say someone has committed a crime. I don't even know or care about this Stanga guy never played for him and never will both my kids went thru LI baseball and one is a Freshman other a junior both playing ball and very happy doing so.

I just don't like when people throw numbers out there and make claims using a persons name and not using theirs. If you think I'm wrong not to use my name fine valid point but the bottom line is you know its wrong to make a claim about fraud if you can't back it up.

I have never heard a person say you can write off travel baseball costs that is absurd.

As far as Baseball goes on LI like I said in my post there are plenty of places to play if this guys is no good he will go away.

As far as this venue please this is a very strange website and again I only posted three times on here and offered a different angle of view.

So as long as I agree with you I'm ok but if I take a stance thet is different I have a narrow mind and point of view?

You have your view I on purpose threw out another and got what I expected the regular I got screwed so now I need to warn the world speech.

You know if you want to help people go drop the dime on the guy and get him shut down...... oh wait you didn't do that why is that? Do you want the attention of hearing people agree with you.

If the guy is that bad and is doing so wrong make the call. Coming on here and hoping on the odd chance people are going to see it wont stop the guy as people like me and others just think your a guy who had an issue with another travel team.

Again it may not be your view it just another view and again I don't know or care about any one person I just don't like when people slam in public but don't do anything about it.

So my last words will be make the call already and let us know who it goes.

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#24808 - 10/14/11 07:39 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Anonymous]
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Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Hey post#24764, look who is calling the kettle black, Mr. Anonymous! First, you post as Anonymous also. Second, you correct a typo, but seem to have several in your response.

I guess you spend a lot of money on attorneys, Chips was just making a statement about his experience that he had with the principle of the LI Sound. This is America, he has the right to be a critic, as long as he does not slander. These posts on this site and thread are performing a service, just like Consumer Reports and are providing reviews based upon real life experience. This site offers a valuable service to parents who are looking to perform their due-diligence.

Since when can you deduct your kid’s baseball fees from your taxes??? Can I write off my weekly bowling fees and bar bill? If Stagna informed parents that he would provide them with a donation letter when they paid their kid’s baseball fees, he needs to be investigated for possible fraud. So what you are threatening Mr. Chips with is a lawsuit, because he is alerting the readers of this site of possible fraudulent practices and a potential whistleblower to a possible federal crime????

Mr. Chips has a distinctive writing style that those of poor reading comprehension might define as "cute or talking in riddles." I define his technique of getting his message across as that of a highly skilled writer. His style offers a bit of levity to a sad situation as he is painting the picture for all to see.

I have been reading these posts and have come to possibly understand why you take offense to Mr. Chips. Is it because be said, Stagna offered the Moon and delivered Canarsie? I get it; your roots must be from Canarsie? Is that why you’re sore?
I guess you don't spend a lot of money on attorneys. Slander involves the oral "publication" of a defamatory remark that is heard by another, which injures the subject's reputation or character. Slander can occur through the use of a hand gesture or verbal communication that is not recorded. Libel, on the other hand, is the written "publication" of a defamatory remark that has the tendency to injure another's reputation or character. Libel also includes a publication on radio, audio or video. Even though this would be considered oral, or verbal, communication to someone it is actually considered to be libel because it is published in a transfixed form.

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#24812 - 10/14/11 09:10 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Now my anonymous friend, you have made a point! For the record, you are very correct in pointing out that this is a powerful venue and that's why I'm here. Check the stats, 6K views and over 100 posts to this thread, thats not an odd chance! Behind the scenes, I'll make sure business gets taken care of, but here in full public view, if I caused one parent to reconsider a decision to invest their dollars with this organization, I've done something good. It's a business, and I don't begrudge anyone a fair and honest living, but when you screw people, well you know what they say about payback. I've not posted a single lie or exaggeration. I am guilty of being dark and sarcastic, but you have to have an edge to draw out opinions and now you've expressed one that I can respect. I'd ask the same in return. May you sea be calm. Chips Ahoy!

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#24813 - 10/14/11 09:20 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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A final thought, I still have a copy of my endorsed check with the word "Donation" on the Memo line. Cheers! Chips Ahoy!

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#24818 - 10/14/11 11:36 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Anonymous]
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Originally Posted By: Anonymous


If someone posted my name and IRS in same sentence I would sue this site and then sue the person who posted it by making the site give up his IP address.



another wannabe lawyer. sue a person or sue a website just because someone used your name with IRS in the same sentence? How does it damage you to have your name and IRS in the same sentence? If IRS investigates you and finds that you owe taxes is that a crime? Is that damages? or is it a windfall for the IRS?
damages means that someone FALSELY said something about you that caused financial harm to you that was unjust. If IRS gets you to pay your taxes I think its legal.
From what I hear these guys get sued all the time so go ahead and sue them.
getting interesting.

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#24823 - 10/14/11 11:58 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Originally Posted By: Chips Ahoy!
A final thought, I still have a copy of my endorsed check with the word "Donation" on the Memo line. Cheers! Chips Ahoy!
I wouldn't reccommend taking that deduction....

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#24830 - 10/15/11 12:27 AM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Chips I'm not trying to bust you up here just stirring the pot a little and yes that is absurd if the guy made a donation request in lieu payment.

I'm just saying many times people vent on websites but never do much about it and many time it is sour grapes.

As far as that goes I don't know this sound guy but if is he connected to SJB? Is he part of the coaching staff? This brings up another problem with LI baseball and that is the coaches or directors of the lets say "Non Public" schools and there connection with their baseball programs. But that's another story are people making a donation to the school or the LI Sound.


As far as to the above post and a wannabe Lawyer, first what I was saying is that if you talk about reporting me to the IRS on a public website and use my name I would take issue with that unless of course I was guilty of what I was being accuses of and I think any rational person would feel the same way.

That is a very large rock to throw at a person. I would like I think anyone else would protect myself from that type of accusation granted like I said unless it was true.

I haven't seen anyone do more than talk on this website and say it once more if this guy is really doing the things that are said here then someone who knows the true facts needs to get this guy looked at.

That will be my last comment here to all a good night

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#25039 - 10/21/11 03:19 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Someone mentioned Nick Cosmo a few pages back. He was sentenced to 25 years this week!

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#25060 - 10/22/11 08:47 AM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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and deserves it all what a s*&bag hope he enjoyed it.

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#29423 - 04/15/12 12:53 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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FYI......
The origional LI Sound now only have one team (college level).
The Island Baseball Factory (IBF) Sound has two teams (16U & 18U)and no longer have any connections with SJB.

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#29467 - 04/16/12 04:06 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Well it remains to be seen how long IBF Sound will be in business. Sean Kams is unstable and might ditch the whole business for dreams of playing overseas. Good Luck to all the parents who piad him money.

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#29547 - 04/17/12 06:25 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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A 2 team organization will not last long.

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#29612 - 04/18/12 07:00 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Anonymous]
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Originally Posted By: Anonymous
A 2 team organization will not last long.
It's a start. Next year there will be 4.

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#29632 - 04/19/12 10:41 AM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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If they last that long!

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#29669 - 04/19/12 09:30 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Anonymous]
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Originally Posted By: Anonymous
If they last that long!
That's what she said.

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#29963 - 04/27/12 07:50 AM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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With less than a month away IBF Sound is still looking for 5 players.At what point should the parents start to worry about where their hard earned money is going?

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#30009 - 04/28/12 12:41 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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My kid is an ex-IBF Sound player. My buddy called me up and told me about all of the negative comments about Sean that are being written on this site. Let me speak from experience and let every one know that my kid learned a great deal from Sean and his staff. I have Sean to thank for giving my son the confidence to play at the next level.

Why did I leave? I have mixed emotions about placing my son with another organization but we left because of some of the crazy parents and the BS they created. Those parents were nuts! I hear that Sean got rid of them and it's back to the business of teaching the game.

Sean has placed a couple of boys who did not make their HS team with college commitments. That is a fact! Ask anyone at the IBF and they will confirm. What others organizations can say that?

Please before you bash, know the facts. I wish Sean and his staff well.

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#30025 - 04/29/12 01:29 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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If you want to defend Sean ...then do so. But let all the facts out.
He didnt get them any committments that they could not have done on their own. Mt St Vincent and Briarcliffe arent powerhouse baseball colleges...those boys could have walked onto their respectives fields and got interest.
Parents werent shown the door by Sean...his erratic behavior made the parents leave!

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#30026 - 04/29/12 01:41 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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No organizations that are big and good say that because their kids make school teams.

And please parents are nuts everywhere, the fact you left, shows all I need to know.

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#30272 - 05/03/12 05:10 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Reply to Message #29963: The answer to your question is NOW! There will be no happy ending. And your $$? Consider it a bad investment. You should have read this thread in December, but thats spilt milk my friend. Wishing you and your son nothing but blue skies and calm seas (and I do hope you get you $$ back). Chips Ahoy!

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#30347 - 05/04/12 07:15 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Bye Bye Little Sean!

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#30418 - 05/06/12 11:20 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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Chips did warn everyone on here. This is what this site should be used for. If you read his post and still paid them without finding out more about them then u don't like money alot. He told you so.

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#30458 - 05/07/12 07:50 PM Re: Long Island Sound - Off! [Re: Chips Ahoy!]
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IBF Sound is lookng to put a 10U tournament team together....any parents here have an extra 2600 and every weekend free to travel all across the state????
Any suckers out there?

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