I have been out of the Baseball loop for about 20 years. But now that my son is getting into baseball, so am I. Recently friends of mine that play adult softball were telling me all about how they get their bats rolled to maximize distance of batted balls. They also tell me that this was a bid to do in College baseball before they changed the bat specs. Now I wonder if this goes on at the Little League level. I think they should all go back to wood bats. Any thoughts???

what are you talking about?

Unfortunetly there will always be cheaters. I don't think it happens alot in LL. or youth travel. But it does most likely happen. It would be a real shame if a kid was hit with a ball while pitching against a rolled bat. Then maybe that parent would see the big picture. I don't think a rolled bat can make you a hitter, you still have to be able to hit it on the sweet spot. My sons team does alot of tourneys in other states and the real danger is those big barrel. Other then NY and NJ you see these big barrel bats everywhere. I think by 12 years old it should go to wood. I like the metal bats for the young guys because the real little guys can't swing a heavy wood bat.

If someone is paying to get a bat rolled, more than likely its getting shaved and juiced. Its cheating and potentially dangerous. This is from one of many companies that provide the service. Notice their disclaimer at the end.

Bat rolling is a proven process using a custom built machine with specifically designed rollers used to apply pressure to a softball or baseball bat. This pressure stretches the composite fibers and resin type glues that different manufacturers use to let the composite fibers expand and work in a trampoline effect, projecting the ball further and faster than a metal type bat. This increase in trampoline effect is what causes the ball to propel off the bat faster and carry further. Bat rolling is a technique that can be done on both new and well used bats.

Bat juicing involves the process of thinning the inner walls of the bat. The goal of the process is to increase the trampoline effect of the bat in relationship to the ball when they make contact. Bat juicing will greatly increase the amount of distance a ball will travel after being hit. Shaving also adds distance to your balls that you never could have imagined. Juiced bats will cause your home runs to be up to 50 feet farther, and your line drives will be through the infield twice as fast. Juiced bats have become quite popular over the last few years, and a lot of people are swinging these shaved bats all the time. They swing them in games, exhibitions, and home run derbies. Juiced bats are fun to have, but we strenuously suggest not to use them in game play.

The shaving process starts with taking off the end cap. A company skilled in working on bats can remove end caps without damaging them at all so that they can be reused to assure a great fit and finish. The inner walls of the bat are then shaved to thin them out. Proper shaving is done on a lathe that is set to gradually remove material from the inner walls of the bat. Only about one to two ounces of weight should be removed. Shaving should not be done to the handle as this greatly increases the risk for breakage. Shaving a bat will reduce the life of the bat no matter how it is done, but improper shaving could lead to a useless bat.

ProRollers.net LLC bats should only be used in Homerun Derbies, Outlaw Leagues, and anywhere this type of modification is legal for use. Shaved bats will not be used in anyway during sanctioned league or tournament play where the bat certification is to stay below a said performance level. ProRollers.net LLC is not affiliated with any bat manufacturers in any way. All bats purchased from ProRollers.net LLC are brand new second hand and no manufacturers warranty is implied. The buyer of the service(s) assumes responsibility that this bat(s) will not be used during any league, tournament, or ball park where a, modified as such, bat is illegal.

People will continue to cheat no matter the specs or the material used to manufacturer a baseball bat.

The BBCOR bats are already being tampered with as this quote from batrollingblog.com indicates

. . . . One of these changes simply incorporate a bushing (for the lack of a better description) is installed in the barrel of their composite bats which prevent the barrel from flexing too much. Some bat doctors are simply removing the bushings and this allows the bat to perform like it did prior to the BBCOR standard. There are other proprietary altering methods being tested right now as well which will improve the performance of BBCOR bats. Stay tuned for more information as more and more BBCOR approved bats hit the market.


Going wood bat only simply means the sale of cork will increase significantly.


The bottom line is cheaters will cheat but the reality is they really are only cheating themselves in the long run.

Jez---What happened to good old fashioned corking the bat...

Only COMPOSITE bats can be rolled and one would roll it to help expedite the break in time. Instead of having to use the bat for weeks to break it in rolling does it instantly. I see no cheating in that. I do see cheating shaving a bat. You are altering a bat.
I too say go back to wood and glad the BBCOR rule is in effect now.

Are there any restrictions on the type of tape that you can put on the handle of a wood bat?

isnt it sad when you see a nine yr old kid put it over the fence and the first thing out of the haters mouths are the bats rolled

no its sadder that his dad thinks his swing is good.

how would you possibly know his swing isnt good? that makes no sense HATER

because its IMPOSSIBLE for a 9u kid to generate enough power to hit a ball that far if he had a proper SHORT swing. To hit a ball that far, as small as a 9u kid is, is to make the swing really long to generate enough momentum. ITS A FACT.

Forget about what I say, keep teaching your kid that his long swing is good. By the time he is 15 you and him will be wondering "what happened". Why can't johnny hit any more.

you're the real hater. you hate your son enough that you would rather glorify yourselves in homeruns now than developing a proper swing to hit solid linedrives now that will turn into bigger hits when the strength is developed when he gets older.


YOU WIN!!!

I agree with the previous comment. The long swing will destroy you. As a former coach of over 15 years, with two boys 21 and 17 (the last one into his senior year), I may have some experience in the matter - but don't claim to know it all.

At age 8 it is cute and makes daddy feel proud that his boy can hit a long ball, but soon enough those so called homers will become routine fly balls unless that swing becomes compact yet powerful. Picture the kid setting up at the plate, pretending to be holding a bat in his hand. Now place a basketball i n those hands and have him "push" both hands forward to release the basketball. That should essentially be the type of motion he should have in his swing, short - compact - exploding outward.

Line drives, hard hit ground balls and the deep blasts that come with that type of swing are far more productive than the "go for the fences swing". Just my thoughts...

Sounds like we got another expert whose son hasn't put anything close to the fence yet , and I wouldn't be surprised if he plays up too cause he's got great "technique" .

Sound like we have another loser with nothing positive to contribute to this forum so he just bashes other people's comments - although he would never have the nads to say it to anyone's face.

My poor pathetic friend....In fact both of my sons have hit may homeruns to date and continue to di so. However, it's their batting average and effectiveness at the plate in bringing in baserunners that makes them good hitters.

I cannot have a battle of wits with you - since you are obviously unarmed....

OK and what if my son bats 600 amd hits doubles and triples too ...does he swing still stink? since your a professional and can make judgements via the computer

wow what a stupid thread. Play nice in the sand box boys

It's not the thread that's stupid...

Remember this all started with some knucklehead who said he knew of 9yrs old that use rolled bats.

If it is the truth why am I a knucklehead? Because you don't think it is cheating? I am sure you have said to your kid "If you aint cheating you aint trying" Sound familiar? Great example you are setting!!! **********!!!

There are plenty of parents that will waste their money on any perceived advantage but complain about costs of winter training or league fees. You all make me sick and this website unfortunately is a microcosm of our society... and that is why this country is in the toilet...

Yeah , posting at 200 in the morning and I'm the ********** ! Roll over and go to bed .

whoever started this thread about bat rolling is a dope in general...seriusly i domnt know one person that rolls a bat with 10 yr olds

Yes there is no cheating in other countries... sure.

Well the good part about being in America is that you have a choice, so if this site makes you sick choose not to go on it.....There an old Indian proverb MIke Epstein told me while at one of his hitting camps, "its not the arrow its the indian". I also think the country has issues but its not from this site, its actually fun to read through the post, my friends and all talk about all the time..

I agree. This country is in the toilet because of bat rolling...

So you think I'm a dope for starting this thread! You are the real DOPE because you keep coming back to read it!

Yes, I think you are a DOPE !

We finally agree, you are a dope .

My IQ is 24, is that too high for this site ?

You post at 730. How about doing some work?

Yes a DOPE and a HATER

I THOUGHT THIS SITE WAS MONITORED, IF IT REALLY IS STOP WITH THIS NONSENCE

We normally don't accept that high , but ok, you're in ! Permission to complain has been granted

look bottom line, at 9 or 10 your son isnt strong enough to make a diff, bat rolling is doing nothing. Its actually comical.
When you come to this site you have to act like its going to the zoo. You go to look at the monkeys and laugh, that is what you do here laugh at all the monkeys

why go to the zoo to look at monkeys? roll over and look next to you, you have MIGHTY JOE young laying right next to you. not a monkey but she is obviously a primate.

That is not true, my son just joined a very very competitive t-ball team and one of the fathers said he has rolled a t-ball bat.
Also we have been playing adult hi level wiffle ball and have been rolling those bats for years.

why go to the zoo to look at monkeys? roll over and look next to you, you have MIGHTY JOE young laying right next to you. not a monkey but she is obviously a primate.


look no reason to talk about your wife like that. I will send her home when i am done. YOU keep rolling those bats, lol think you can get your 9 yr old some roids too. I will send them home with your wife
p.s .she ate I gave her a banana

That is not true, my son just joined a very very competitive t-ball team and one of the fathers said he has rolled a t-ball bat.
Also we have been playing adult hi level wiffle ball and have been rolling those bats for years.


you are just an idiot.

did you come up with that all by yourself? you have really come a long way. now if you could just figure out how to get that yellow line off your back you would be in good shape. you should try what your mate did and shave your back first. she said it didn't even hurt, just tickled a bit. this is a friendly warning: clean up after her when you walk her, we are tired of stepping all in her business. you also might want to try fresh lemon juice to get rid of her fleas.

problem here is your son is 36 and just starting t-ball. they only thing you should be worrying about rolling is your spouse to the vet! even michael vick feels sorry for her! you are the water boy for the wiffle ball team, what do you know about hitting?

So glad this post was started---now every knucklehead will be getting his kids bat rolled...

You can roll a BBCOR bat all you want won't do any good.

did you come up with that all by yourself? you have really come a long way. now if you could just figure out how to get that yellow line off your back you would be in good shape. you should try what your mate did and shave your back first. she said it didn't even hurt, just tickled a bit. this is a friendly warning: clean up after her when you walk her, we are tired of stepping all in her business. you also might want to try fresh lemon juice to get rid of her fleas.
no even funny, better yet what does that mean??? YOu need to stop drinking butface. dont quit your day job bat roller. HHey, your kid is calling thing he wants another shot of roids. think he has that anger thing working just like you, lmao. go back to your competitive tball team, lmao I cant even say it without laughing

problem here is your son is 36 and just starting t-ball. they only thing you should be worrying about rolling is your spouse to the vet! even michael vick feels sorry for her! you are the water boy for the wiffle ball team, what do you know about hitting?

thank you. a first class idiot for sure. I think his som nay be older then 36

can someone get rid of this bat rolling thread its a waste of space

you all obviously spend too much time rolling your own bats.