I saw this tryout two months ago and I thought it was just a moneymaker. It was a $ 130 to tryout. Anyone have any thoughts or know anyone playing???

Nitro,

Check out the "Best 13U teams" thread this subject has been beaten to death. The flood gates of negativity opened after a kid made the Stars and Stripes team and then claimed that their kid made "Team USA". And was therefore one of the best players in NY. state.

yes tourney going on right now NY teams doing good

Thanks. I heard they pretty much opened up the rosters to anyone who could get there in order to fill teams.

New York Teams got knocked out right away. I couldn't see spending all that money and playing three games.

ny teams got beat up seems ny teams wasted there pitching before elimination games why? dumb

NY team competing against the best in the country. They held tight against the elite players. Good luck to the players that make the international team and play in central america against the world's best.

great job to the kids making the team have fun who are u

u should have been there coaching

cmon man

whose paying for the flights and room to go there
9u team had to borrow players from other states to field a team
10u had b team players on it
if you were willing to buy a plane ticket and pay hotel expenses you made the team simple as that

Guess you are broke and dumb! You hatin from outside the park and can't even get in!

you sound stupid. when you play tournaments out here does your team give you gas money? stop spending money on crack and maybe you would have been there!

Again why are parents talking about 9 and 10 yr old kids..Step out of the closet and state your name

Everything was good with the 10u boys until the b-team coaches stepped in

stars and stripes are all about the money...

When it comes to my kid money is not a factor. He will get anything and everything I could not afford when I was a kid. Bottom line if he wants it it's his. If your too cheap to do the same go play in NJBL and stop complaining about what other people do and how much they pay.

I just feel it didnt live up to the hype
ny's best 9 year olds with some players from other states vs other states- not a true ny all star team

10u team would have had a hard time beating many local teams
word was 10u had 3 teams but ended up with whomever would pay for flights- sounds like a lot of kids and parents bagged it
Some people are not as wealthy as you and have better things to spend a couple thousand
lets face it 4 practices and maybe 14 atbats at the tournament doesnt seem like a wise investment

maybe its not about your son but you beating your chest- my son made the all new york 10u team

as for me pitching and batting lessons is how ill spend my money if he wants them

big difference btween a few dollars for gas and a few thousand dollars for the same amount of games as a weekend tournament here

Yes , I heard the fill in coach was all about his kid , sad . Many of the parents upset he didn't follow the SnS rules that kids move about and sit a few innings.

How and why did he step in? Didn't the A team coach have balls?

No one said you shouldn't spend money on your son. That is not the argument. The argument is Stars and stripes was a money scheme. Its fine to go and play with them but take it for what it was. We went to Florida with his team before and he had the best time while being very competitive. I asked my son if he wanted to try out and he said "no". He told me he rather go with his own team. Real simple all those guys running it made out like bandits and didn't put a winning product out there.

name a team that is not daddy coached that is not about the money. does anyone really believe that the paid coach big orginizations are in it for the kids? I'm not saying that they are wrong. they are running a business. but stars and stripes arent any different than titans, [***censored***], braves, tigers or whateve the hot name is.

what would stating your name have to do with this thread??????

^^^^

rolling eyes oh boy

just curious how many at bats and innings pitched did your son get for the 3-4 thousand you spent on the trip - so he could play on a team he has no allegence to

signed dumb and broke

Well, you are wrong. The fill in coach was thrown into the role, and did move kids around. So stop it talking about what you "heard"

Why does everytime you spend your money it has to be an investment? Have you ever just spent some money on yourself or family, just because? Have you ever splurged? I guess not, you probably count every penny you spend. Don't knock someone else because they want to spend 3-4 thousand for a vacation/baseball tournament. It's the memories, the friendships you make, and the time you spend with your kids that are PRICELESS.

really it only cost $465.00 to play.

$ 115 for the tryout and $ 350 per kid. Coaches were paid so that cost was part of the overall cost. Shirts for tryout, two shirts for play, hat, field rental at multiple locations. rental of hotel ball room to host events for the program.

website fees and i'm sure 10 other fees i don't even know about.
Money making i'm sure. How much probably no more than any other tournament.

The flights were 2400.00 (4 in a family)
Hotel room was 120 per night (6 night minimum)720.00
Car Rental (400)
Food (easy 125.00 per day x 6) 750.00

Networking - Priceless
Fun - Priceless
Giving all you can to your kids - Priceless
Winning or losing - Priceless
Making friends - priceless
photos/video of your kids - priceless
Memories - Priceless
80 and Sunny in December - Prices noted above

PS - We played 11U
BOTH teams Stars and Stripes
Players / coaches / George from AllPro
Parents / Hotel

Everyone - Well worth the dime paid to get down there.
Thank you to all involved.

Chris

...the part you left out was the vacation time each family had. If you want to put that money towards lessons ok, but don't claim the trip wasn't worth if, especially if you weren't there. I would hope top tier teams that play together all year long are stronger than teams that only practiced a few times together.

How was the coach all about his kid? What S&S rules didnt he follow?

From what I know for a FACT the coaches did move kids around and the coaches kid sat innings just like the rest of the kids.

For those who have complaints about a parent stepping in for the 10u team after the manager left the team...ask yourself this...did any of you step in to help or offer help at any point? The answer was NO. As for the direct comments about not following S&S rules and it all being about his kid...let's discuss in person since I'm the coach/manager...Fletch. I'd love to know where you heard it and from whom? Plus I like to know why you would post something you HEARD. Seems like you're someone who likes to stir the pot or maybe just jealous. I've got my original listing of positions by inning for both games I managed to show you. So everyone knows some facts...in an elimination situation my son sat the first 2 innings of an important game...didn't even start him pitching in the 2nd critical game...I wanted to have someone elses kid get to pitch and start a game in Florida. Still feel its all about my son?

Again I will gladly get together with whom ever wants to discuss...parents that were there, parents that were in FL but not associated with the 10u team or any parent that wasn't there but just wants to know what truly went down.

Importantly I want to talk with the 2 people who but the posts up about the 10u team. I'm challenging you....up for it?

its a shame that most of these comments must have come from parents that were there from the 10u team. Obviously most of the negative stuff on here is probably from the same group of people. this is why they advertised on here. its also a shame that most of these kids on this team came from same program the one that gets a lot of attention on this website. one of the oldest and most succesfull travel programs in suffolk county.

it was a chance to spend the Christmas and new years holiday in 75 degree weather while with your family. baseball was a bonus. you would spend more on a reg. trip to Disney. we met so many people and those are memory's. I guess you are broker than you thought.

i thought the 10u coach did a great job. a parent stepping up in a big way. my son moved around as did all the kids. if i'm not mistaken we won! overall i feel we played great. if you think you are gonna come up big all the time you are setting yourself up for disappointment. all our kids had fun. it's easy to talk when you are running away at the same time. great job Fletch! we personally had a blast! don't pay attention to the haters! BEASTALLAY!

Oh yeah, 80 degrees in December alone is worth more than 3-4 thousand.

Actually coaches not coach

What group of guys are you talking about?

So it sounds like you shelled out around $5,000 to have your kid play in this tournament. You could have went on a cruise or went to an all inclusive resort on a beautiful tropical island for that price. I would think that would create better family memories than standing on a baseball field for a week. You could have went on a real vacation and waited two months to play baseball on L.I. I know what me and my family would prefer...

I feel the 10U coach did a good job. It's tough when you have to try to manage a team to victory and at the same time try and please the parents. You got 12 kids and only 9 can play the field, plus you have to follow Stars and Stripes rules. Somebody is going to have to sit on the bench and somebody is going to have to bat last. It baseball. To be put in a spot where you are subjected to all these factors and on such short notice, I feel Fletch did the best he could do. Good job Fletch.

it was a chance to spend the Christmas and new years holiday in 75 degree weather while with your family. baseball was a bonus. you would spend more on a reg. trip to Disney. we met so many people and those are memory's. I guess you are broker than you thought. [/quote]


You're a real moron. Everyone can spend there money however they want but it was not a top team like every parent wanted to believe. It was not a top team at all and most of the top teams on the island would beat them. Great experience to meet new people yes. But by no means was that filled with best players in NY. By the way it was 60 degrees and sunny today in NY. For free.

my guy got in 200 swings- did double plays- outfield catches in 55 degree february weather with a bunch of friends at the park today and I networked - networked?- priceless

Wow Now these people are telling you what the best vacations are they must be one the top travel agents on long island.

Why does everyone care so much. If parents and familys had the money to spend on this, why not enjoy it. Im sure the kids had a great time. I personally would have loved to put my son on the team unfortunately funds werent available. I dont think any parent is saying his son is the best. Ovously with the expenses not everyone could try out. But why cant they be happy that they went and b we proud of the kids...geeez stop hating and let the kids enjoy this..congrats to alk the kuds who made the team.

Then by all means go ahead and do so and forget about what other people do> I am sure your tooo cheap to even take your family anywhere if they would even go with you.

Duh it January not February.

Ask your boy that question. These memories are for them, not us. Last time I checked I'm a grown man. It's Time for them not me. Do more of the things you love. We love baseball. Seems like you choose to do baseball when it doesn't get in the way of your happiness. Some are dedicated to the sport, some are just dedicated to the thought! Wake up and continue to "explore the world and try and find yourself!" We act we don't create excuses. No better lesson than facing the best in the U.S. and knowing what it's like. You keep studying and we will keep playing! allday

You're a real moron. Everyone can spend there money however they want but it was not a top team like every parent wanted to believe. It was not a top team at all and most of the top teams on the island would beat them. Great experience to meet new people yes. But by no means was that filled with best players in NY. By the way it was 60 degrees and sunny today in NY. For free. [/quote]

And you and your's are still sitting on the couch. That's what SEPARATES us from you. We don't sit and judge. We go and live it. Remember We will always need people like yourself on the side lines. How else would we be able to have a parade.

that's why you are a good LOCAL PLAYER! Yeah just a LOCAL!

You people who keep hounding on what a bad experience this was for the money (mind you, the people who weren't even there are doing all this chattering) just sound like a bunch of tightwads. You can keep making your comments about how much money you DIDN'T spend. That's what people do when they have regrets; they harp on the fact, after all is said and done, that they did the right thing, when in fact, they wish they were a part of it. If that's what makes you feel better, and to have to do it in a public forum, then so be it. You're awesome, dudes! Puuullleeeeze!

How SAD is it that we have grown men on here knocking kids and their families for taking a trip down to Florida to play a lil baseball for xmas break...Are you more mad that you didnt know about the s and s tryout or is it that you couldnt afford to go and feel the need to bash those that could?

February huh? 200 swings? Whos throwing 200 at bats per player? If there was more than 5 in your bunch they had to throw at least 800 - 1000 pitches to make it fair. He, you and all of his friends must be amazing.

If you had a pitching machine ... you lugged it to the field?

Oh yeah.... Its January and it was 61 degrees only ONE Saturday. IT was only one day that it was really warm. Big workout for one day. You are AMAZING!

This is why people ramble with their fingers before their minds figure it out. They used to ramble with their mouths, now its their fingers. MY SON IS GREAT>>> IM THE BEST DAD>> Are you kidding me?

Great you took your kid to the park. Its about time...
Good for you. I would never brag about a Saturday at the park with my kid and his friends. Thats where you should be if you can be.

3 hours does not match up to a week of baseball.

And you and your's are still sitting on the couch. That's what SEPARATES us from you. We don't sit and judge. We go and live it. Remember We will always need people like yourself on the side lines. How else would we be able to have a parade. [/quote]

Yes I sit and watch. You are so smart. We have travelled to Florida to play in tournaments before. I just don't need the team NY label so I can puff up my chest and pat my boy on the back. And you judge just plenty, you judge that your son is a superstar I bet. Where are you playing on LI?

Your right we all have regrets that Team NY was not the best product it could have been. I would have loved to go with the best players from all around NY. Thats not what happened.

You're right from what I heard Fletch did a great job it was the other guy that thinks his son is a superstar that was the problem. He has np place coaching

The easiest solution would be for Stars n Stripes not to use coaches w/ kids on the team in the future. It would remove any appearance of bias, and allow the parents to relax and watch from the bleachers.

you can put any spin you want on it but your lying to yourself and everyone else if the stars and strips team was what it was advertised as
great you had a wonderful time
but stars and strips promised an all star team from new york

Yes I sit and watch. You are so smart. We have travelled to Florida to play in tournaments before. I just don't need the team NY label so I can puff up my chest and pat my boy on the back. And you judge just plenty, you judge that your son is a superstar I bet. Where are you playing on LI? [/quote]

Yes you are absolutely right. My kid is a superstar. Perfect grades, great attitude, well behaved and can play ball. Baseball doesn't make my kid a superstar. It's the complete package that does that. Just so you know it's not where you play but how you play! Everyone, Yes EVERYONE who meets my kid say's it! Face it either you have IT or you don't! Guess you will be chasing us for some time to come! Be a dad and a superstar will emerge regardless! If not, Guess where the blame lies?

[quote=RAGE E. JACKSON]How SAD is it that we have grown men on here knocking kids and their families for taking a trip down to Florida to play a lil baseball for xmas break...Are you more mad that you didnt know about the s and s tryout or is it that you couldnt afford to go and feel the need to bash those that could? [/quote

I tried to tell them RAGE E. that crack is whack! They must be from Buford! BEASTALLDAY!

I will comment on whatever I want. Your opinion is nothing to me.

I do have an answer jack*ss. How about paid coaches coach when you pay for them. Spending all that money so someone who has no coaching experience to step in. Stars and Stripes was not what it was advertised as. Simple as that. Why in the world wouldn't team NY have the best coaches from around NY? Because they didn't care enough after counting there money.
You can all sit here and defend it but you all know better players were available and it wasn't the best product it could be. So keep defending but you know the truth. matter of fact you probably know of a hand full of kids better then what was there.

And the survey says ....

I agree paid coaches would be a great idea, and yes I know a bunch of exceptional kids that didn't make the trip . i doubt the majority of families are running around saying their kid made an elite national team, I think the majority of them take it for what it was worth....a great family vacation . Hopefully more NYs will participate next year , and the level of play will improve as well

In the real world we teach our kids there is always someone better. If not what is the sense of improvement. Just because you can play ball doesn't warrant a trip to Florida, I would hope. If a kid is not performing well in all aspects of his life then I would hope parents would stay home and work on that. No matter what is asked of my son he will give it his all. I can't speak for everyone but my son deserved that trip. I feel just short of $500.00 is not that much. I still feel the coaches did a great job regardless. A coach is not a trainer. He just guides the instruments us parents produced for 1hr. 50 min. Many will not agree but that is o.k. That is why it is a forum. (to discuss issues) It is easy to call someone a jack$$$ on here, I would bet that the last two s's wouldn't make it out of your mouth in person! I HAVE REMAINED IN MY CAGE. IF YOU DARE TO OPEN IT BE MY GUEST! HEISABEASTALLDAY!

say what ?

looks like fletch has a fan club

Can I get an F, can I get an L, can I get an E, can I get a T, can I get a C, can I get an H. What does it spell ?
FLETCH, FLETCH, FLETCH, GOOOOOO FLETCH!

Fletch equals Daddy Ball at its best. We'll see how long parents tolerate it.

i heard that the 15, 16u did very well. can someone out there tell me the truth

FLETCH FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!

FLETCH FOR STUDENT COUNCIL PRESIDENT

The definition of daddy ball is when the coaches son plays more than others even though he's not one of the better performing player's...right? Don't think I need to argue that as proof is in my sons play. Plus I actually perfer he move around to different positions so he can learn the game more broadly. However, what I do more with my son than most do with their own kids is spend the time training, developing his skills and learning the game beyond team practices. What I could do better at with my son is to lay off him sometimes...considering his overall performance, how hard he works at it and the mere fact he is 10. Think some would agree with that. Fletch
P.S. I think V.P is a better gig.
P.S.S Let's sign our names to these posts..it's not too hard to find out who sent them anyways

A lot of guys are pumping pudding on here. They would deny they wrote anything. Only a couple of stand up cat's these day's! HEISABEASTALLDAY.

Who names their son Fletch?

Fletch the beach is crawling with cops and Gummy is turning states evidence on Chief Carlin

I believe his son already is the President of Student Council....