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#4344 - 12/17/09 01:04 AM Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?
spanky Hall of Fame Registered: 10/03/09 Posts: 168	Does anyone know where the top 14U and 15U teams are commuting themselves to play? There has been much criticism directed at Baseball Heaven and many team managers and coaches have openly stated that they will shy away from this facility because of it's higher costs in addition to other problem issues. Last year Boys Of Summer coordinated it's activities through BBH, this year (2010) it appears that they will conduct their efforts separately? Does anyone know which teams have signed to play BOS? What is the cost and how are the fields? Also, who are the best 5 teams for 14U and 15U.
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#4345 - 12/17/09 01:10 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: spanky]
spanky Hall of Fame Registered: 10/03/09 Posts: 168	Sorry! COMMITING not commuting.
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#4346 - 12/17/09 08:12 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: spanky]
Anonymous Unregistered	I'm leaning towards BBH since they are doing some renovations on the fields and not involved with Boys of Summer anymore. Other leagues are good, but they control certain fields and dates (I don't have a field). At BBH I'll at least know when I will be playing and where.
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#4348 - 12/17/09 09:34 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	BOS #1
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#4350 - 12/17/09 09:37 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Top organizations are playing Boys of summer. I know for sure the Titans, Ducks, Bandits, Mariners, Tigers, Storm and Bulls All have committed to Boys of summer. I know the Whalers are playing Baseball heaven but I dont think any other big organization will be.
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#4353 - 12/17/09 10:13 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Does anyone know if BOS supplies fields to play on, which is a primary, default reason behind many teams choosing Baseball Heaven?
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#4354 - 12/17/09 11:38 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	They rent all of the better fields - Dowling, Farmingdale, Suffolk CC, PAL Stadium, Conettquot HS, ST, Anthonys and Moriches complex are just some of the better fields they play at.
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#4357 - 12/17/09 12:16 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Who are the 5 most competitive (best) Long Island teams in the 14U a d 15U divisions?
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#4361 - 12/17/09 02:57 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Not sure on 14's 15's Titans - Bandits - Suffolk County Cobras Express Ducks - Whalers - Storm - In that order.
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#4362 - 12/17/09 03:14 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Mariners?
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#4364 - 12/17/09 03:30 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Dont remember the record from BOS last year but I believe they were week.
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#4366 - 12/17/09 03:43 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Bandits? Who r they ? Girls Softball organization for years
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#4367 - 12/17/09 03:57 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Bandits are a baseball org. Been around a few years. Not certain but I think it was spun off from ducks coachs years ago. They have alot of teams.. I see alot of them on this site.
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#4368 - 12/17/09 04:43 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	What about: Long Island Hurricanes, Cobras, Prospects, North Shore Royals, New York Outlaws?
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#4369 - 12/17/09 04:45 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Does anyone know where the above teams will be playing?
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#4372 - 12/17/09 06:30 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Cobras and Outlaws are at Boys of Summer.
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#4377 - 12/17/09 07:15 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	I thought the Outlaws transitioned over to a "developmental" program, where the focus is on practicing, skills refinement and entry into selected high level tournaments. They made a big fuss over this organizational reorientation, highlighted by a roll-out presentation at Play Like A Pro. This program change served as the impetus for multiple kids leaving their organization, and others deciding to join. How do people pay a lot of money and not know what they are gettinginto?
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#4382 - 12/17/09 08:11 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	That was last week.
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#4383 - 12/17/09 08:19 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
spanky Hall of Fame Registered: 10/03/09 Posts: 168	By the responses received so far, it seems that the best competition for the 14U and 15U age groups is Boys of Summer. Is it too late to register to play with them and how is their costs for playing as compared to BBH and NJBL?
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#4390 - 12/17/09 10:04 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: spanky]
Anonymous Unregistered	Not sure of the costs, but good luck with the scheduling. You never know when you play and games get changed last minute constantly. Some fields are nice, other are so-so.
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#4391 - 12/17/09 10:48 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	warning - boys of summer is a nightmare
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#4393 - 12/18/09 12:56 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Everyone's circumstances are unique to themselves, also taking into account what they are trying to get out of the Spring/Summer/Fall seasons. For us, playing against the local best is important. Identifying who the best are for each age group and finding out where they are playing makes sense. Some people recommend BOS, others trash it. So what's the deciding factor for deciding on this and other venues? The one where the better competition resides.
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#4396 - 12/18/09 08:37 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	You will have different people bashing different leagues. NJBL: Good Price, horrible fields, low competition FABL: Don't even deserve to be mentioned BOS: Priced high for what you get, scheduling a nightmare, competition good at certain levels, no organization. BBH: Pricey,fields being done over, has lights, restaurant, bathrooms, batting tunnels, offers free practice time for teams now and chance for rainouts lessens with the turf fields. You guys decide
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#4397 - 12/18/09 09:11 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Based on your commentary, can I assume that you have ties to BBH? To be fair and balanced: (1) BBH's management of the lights left a lot to be desired. Having to suspend play in the middle of a game for 20-30 minutes was an annoyance. Why were they not responsive to correct this problem at any time during the season last year? Does that speak to their disconnected mindset? How do we feel confident that this mindset has changed for the better? (2) The artificial turf and pitching mounds on the big fields were in disrepair last year, am I to believe that this issue is resolved? (3) Many of the spectator seats by the fields were damaged and unusable, and the outside bathrooms were not properly maintained. Is the same All-Pro crew still in place to run this facility? I think we all can agree that they did not do a good job last year. Its not asking too much to expect better communication and responsiveness. All in all, there is no clear choice without a strong leap of faith that BBH will proactively make an effort to rise to its potential.
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#4404 - 12/18/09 11:39 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	BOS plays at premier facilities. They rent all of the college fields and the fields are pristine. Cost for NJBL is $870 and you find and maintain you own field. Most of the fields are very poorly maintained. Cost for BOS is $1700 and you play on the best fields LI has to offer. Cost for BBH is $2700 - BBH has to make up there minds if they are a tournament location or a league location. The league schedules are horrible because they must work around the 15 tournaments that take up many weekends at BBH. BTW - PAL is only $1600 including umpire fees and plays at PAL, and Moriches complex. IN my opinion. NJBL is for 8u to 12u has the most teams and choices of divisions. If your team is strong enough at 11 or 12 PAL is an excellent option. BOS is by far the most competitive league from 13-18u - It has destroyed the FABL league and offers so much more. They have all of the national bids for teams that are interested in National tournament play. BBH - expensive, nice fields, horrible scheduling - Very mixed competition. PAL - Cheapest game in town. You get what you pay for...
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#4413 - 12/18/09 01:39 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	If you live in nassau county The LIBA is a strong option. You need a home field though and the fee is only around 650.00 You play very good compettition from queens, nassau and brooklyn. This only works though if you live in nassau county.
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#4425 - 12/18/09 04:12 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
spanky Hall of Fame Registered: 10/03/09 Posts: 168	The above 2 postings pretty much tells the story. Thank you very much for your input. Can any team register with BOS, or is it by invitation?
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#4429 - 12/18/09 04:54 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: spanky]
Anonymous Unregistered	I have played in BOS, FABL, BBH & NJBL. FABL: Low level teams, horrible umpires & fields. NJBL: Mostly dirt infields, kids used as umpires.Scheduling very good. BOS: Great fields with great teams in 16 & older. Schedules never solid and always changing constantly. BBH: Great facility, scheduling issues last season (but they mergered with BOS, didn't they). 11 & 12U VERY Competitive. 13 & older has much better competition than NJBL & FABL. Just my HONEST opinion, with no ties to anyone.
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#4431 - 12/18/09 11:22 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	I played in those leagues. NJBL is the best by far for the price. BOS is a scheduling nightmare and the fields can be very disappointing. There were some good fields but also some poor ones. BBH was the same as BOS with offsite games frequently so the facility didn't matter. Highest price out there with the least to offer.
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#4434 - 12/18/09 11:56 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
spanky Hall of Fame Registered: 10/03/09 Posts: 168	Oh well. My hopes of arriving at a clear cut answer has just gone out the window. There are real and potential downside pitfalls to each venue. Why are so many fields in such bad shape? Even our local high school field is an embarrassment. I have a good idea of the better 15U teams, what about 14U. Wherever they go, we'll follow.
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#4443 - 12/19/09 10:44 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: spanky]
Anonymous Unregistered	BBH is not having off site league games this year, I was at the meeting and they admitted that using sattelite fields didn't work out as anticipated. With all games being at BBH it seems like they are headed down the right path...
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#4463 - 12/19/09 07:29 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	What ever happened to last year's 13U/14U Teamakadema team? It was run by 3 daddy coaches who maintained an open roster enrollment to build a team around their sons. They didn't win the end of Summer League playoffs in their weak NJBL division, then they played and won a 13U tournament at Baseball Heaven with a roster that included: the 3 coaches sons, a friend of one of the sons, and 7 roster members from one of that summer's NY Outlaws 14U team, although all kids were qualified to play at 13U. Props to the Long Island Prospects who battled valiently but losing in the finals. Does anyone know the status of TeamAkadema and the self-absorbed clowns that ran that show?
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#4465 - 12/19/09 08:05 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	WHO CARES, GET A LIFE
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#4466 - 12/19/09 08:30 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Maybe we should all close our eyes, ears and mouths. You first!
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#4469 - 12/19/09 09:30 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	I just got done speaking to Yogi, and he said: ...... 90% of people in travel baseball either want to control or allow themselves to be controled. The other half are oblivious.
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#4471 - 12/19/09 09:38 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	And the other half know how to spell "controlled".
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#4473 - 12/19/09 09:59 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Smart guy, place the period INSIDE the endquote.
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#4491 - 12/20/09 06:50 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Originally Posted By: Anonymous Smart guy, place the period INSIDE the endquote. Both ways are acceptable, Google it.
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#4497 - 12/20/09 08:06 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Are we talking grammar here, or content? In the spirit of encouraging a free flow of commentary........Wassup with 14U and 15U?
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#4519 - 12/21/09 03:58 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	With all of the good and bad points made about the respective leagues, of which I have coached in all of them between my two boys, another option to playing competitve ball is as follows: Take your 14U Team to NJBL and "play up",keeping the costs controllable and dealing with mediocre fields.
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#4524 - 12/21/09 07:27 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Interesting and well conceived idea. Thank you for sharing.
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#4551 - 12/22/09 09:55 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Mariners, you must be kidding! Their U15 team went several weeks without a hit from their entire team. They forfieted more games than they won.
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#4553 - 12/22/09 11:31 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Maybe the "top team" reference was based on organization size or recognizability instead of competitiveness.
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#4555 - 12/23/09 12:40 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Originally Posted By: Anonymous Mariners, you must be kidding! Their U15 team went several weeks without a hit from their entire team. They forfieted more games than they won. U R an IDIOT that don't know what U R talkin' about! JA!
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#4576 - 12/23/09 05:19 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	I guess the truth hurts! Instead of name calling why don't you look at the facts! You can't run from the truth!2
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#4581 - 12/23/09 09:14 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	The LI Breakers will be the top 14U team.
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#4582 - 12/23/09 09:23 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	No. It is probably the L.I. Hurricanes out of Hicksville.
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#4584 - 12/23/09 11:43 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	14U NY Outlaws #1!
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#4642 - 12/28/09 02:36 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	15u Team Rawlings Express North Shore Cougers LI Baymen Suffolk County Cobras LI Storm LI Marlins Bandits Whalers 2009 Nassau Ducks Outlaws (playing up) Below dont belongs on list Mariners Suffolk Ducks
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#4643 - 12/28/09 03:17 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Where are these teams playing this summer? Are the all in the same league?
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#4648 - 12/28/09 06:32 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Originally Posted By: Anonymous Where are these teams playing this summer? Are the all in the same league? No way, they play hide n seek; rarely playing each other. Avoiding the best competition so daddy can add another trophy on his shelf.
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#4649 - 12/28/09 06:35 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Originally Posted By: Anonymous 15u Team Rawlings Express North Shore Cougers LI Baymen Suffolk County Cobras LI Storm LI Marlins Bandits Whalers 2009 Nassau Ducks Outlaws (playing up) Below dont belongs on list Mariners Suffolk Ducks What about the LI Titans? They belong at the top of your stupid list!
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#4672 - 12/30/09 05:03 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Titans - are you kidding?
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#4675 - 12/30/09 06:21 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Outlaws? I thought their organization shifted its direction - heavy on the practicing and exposure to national tournaments for broader exposure. Many players left because of this change, quite a few can onboard because of it. You might be mistaken.
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#4676 - 12/30/09 09:50 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	The 15U Titans will be mostly 14 and can not compete with the list. Titan’s teams are not even complete yet, how can you add them to any list? Rawlins, Cougars and Express can compete with anyone and will win many tournaments. Baymen, Cobras, Storm, Bandits, Ducks and Whales have enough of a talent pool to always be strong. Give the Marlins credit the only team in the list that is town based and he always is competitive. The 14U Outlaws will be playing up and will be a team to beat. The whole heavy practicing thing is a money maker and a joke.
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#4678 - 12/30/09 10:13 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Thanks for the info. It sounds to me that you have a solid assessment of 15U. Do you have any feelings of 14U?
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#4702 - 12/31/09 01:45 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	just know the 15U team. I do not know any 14U teams
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#4713 - 12/31/09 04:29 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Originally Posted By: Anonymous just know the 15U team. I do not know any 14U teams The top 14U teams are the Breakers, Prospects, Outlaws & Titans.
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#4717 - 12/31/09 05:11 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	you give me those four teams in a tournament together and i'll take the outlaws every time . they are built for tournament play, all of there players can pitch.They are a tournament tested team whose experience is second to none on the Island. Anybody can be beaten in a single game but if you were to play them three out of four they are tough to beat. The yardstick for measuring any team is how they do in a tournament were you need the pitching to go four or five games deep. They have that.
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#4720 - 12/31/09 06:54 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	I agree , 14 Outlaws are the best at there age group.
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#4721 - 12/31/09 07:28 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	The Long Island braves and the Long Island Hurricanes are right there with those teams. The Hurricanes may be the best around. They definitely won their share of tournaments last year.
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#4722 - 12/31/09 07:36 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	The LI Cardinals are breaking up. They are becoming the LI RAYS.
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#4726 - 12/31/09 10:01 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Which L.I. Braves, there seems to be a few? If it's the one that lost in the semis in a late Summer tournament at BBH, no way! Doing good against NJBL competition is no great feat. The Long Island Hurricanes, for sure. As for the 14U NY Outlaws, they seem to be situating themselves the same as last year. What was the big hoopla about with talk of a transition? Even Robert Longo entered comments on this website defending the organization's decision to change their focus.
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#4728 - 12/31/09 10:55 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	I am talking about the Long Island Braves team that beat the Long Island Hurricanes for the NJBL Summer Championship.
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#4732 - 01/01/10 12:29 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Was that one whole game that they won against the L.I. Hurricanes? Even the Washington National took 2 out of 3 games against the Yankees last season. I don't think anyone would dare suggest that they are world championship caliber.
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#4734 - 01/01/10 01:43 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Clicking on the Summer League standings at the NJBL website, then clicking on scores on the L.I. Braves team line, I can see the results of 3 games played between The Braves and The Hurricanes. The Hurricanes won 2 and tied 1.
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#4736 - 01/01/10 08:06 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	You guys have nothing better to do on New Years Eve. Gimme a Break.
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#4740 - 01/01/10 12:39 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Originally Posted By: Anonymous You guys have nothing better to do on New Years Eve. Gimme a Break. Looks like you were up bright and early. Asleep bed by 10?
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#4746 - 01/01/10 03:52 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	But lost to the LI Braves in the playoffs
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#4750 - 01/01/10 04:32 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	LI Braves beat Baymen Lightning in the Summer 13u Championship Braves were well coached and beat a solid Baymen team.
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#4752 - 01/01/10 06:33 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	The Baymen Who? Sorry they don't show up on the radar screen. Nothing against either team, but truthfully they are not top tier.
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#4754 - 01/01/10 07:02 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	The Baymen showed up at every game ready to play and played well. This team does not claim to what you call top tier but won in league play and also won a couple of tournaments. Solid team worth watching this year!
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#4755 - 01/01/10 07:10 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Last summers 13u Baymen team lost some key players to the Titans and Tigers for this year.
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#4756 - 01/01/10 07:20 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	The Baymen are a very respectable organization. They and the Hurricanes shouldn't be name dropped as a cheap way of propping up the stature of the L.I. Braves.
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#4759 - 01/01/10 07:55 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	ok ok lets not get crazy. Yes the Hurricane team is the better of the three, but the LI Braves were much better then that Lightning team. Although the Lightning has(had?) a real classy group of coaches over their.
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#4761 - 01/01/10 08:47 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	My use of the word respectable means that they deserve respect in how their teams are run. A previous writer tried using a better team (Hurricanes) and a less capable team (Baymen) to inflate the status of the Braves. No big deal, just calling it like it is.
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#4762 - 01/01/10 09:13 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Less Capable???? Wasn't the U15 Baymen undefeated in the fall NJBL season!
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#4764 - 01/01/10 09:27 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	He meant that specific baymen team, and he is correct
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#4765 - 01/01/10 09:40 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	After some summer turnover the Baymen Lightning player a nice fall, they have picked up a few new players that look real good and they should have a nice 2010.
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#4766 - 01/01/10 09:42 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	The Baymen Lightning team finshed in second place last fall and are in the process of retooling and look very good.
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#4767 - 01/01/10 09:45 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Did they pick up players from the Smithtown Hurricanes and is it the same coaching staff as the Summer team?
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#4770 - 01/01/10 10:11 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Best of luck to all the Baymen teams. They were not being picked on nor were they the focus of discussion. Someone inapproriately brought up last year's 13U team.
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#4771 - 01/01/10 11:42 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Why do you consider them being brought up inappropriate? Are they not a competitive 14u team same as many of the other teams discussed in this thread.
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#4772 - 01/02/10 12:48 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Why tout beating the Baymen as a reason to claim top-tier status. Did you take a look at last year's BBH summer league teams? Outlaws, Breakers, Prospects, Cobras, Riptide, etc. A team that could fight through that competition is battle tested. Sorry, but the level of NJBL competition does not measure up.
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#4782 - 01/02/10 11:47 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	You anonymous people are funny! Know your facts! The Baymen plays in NJBL because Frank Sullivan runs a tight ship and ensures that the games are played. How many of you played in the other leagues and bitched and moaned about missing games???? The Baymen's teams played their games with NJBL! Its funny, I do not see the Outlaws, Breakers, Cobras, Riptid, etc on any of the last listed BBH results for Labor Day or Columbus Day tournaments. But the prospects did finish runner up in the U13 division on Labor Day tournament, as did the U15 Baymen Red Sox. BBH Labor Day results 9u Champions- LI Inferno 9u Runners-Up- NBNM Rebels 10u Champions- LI Inferno 10u Runners-Up- Farmingdale Greendogs 11u Champions- Merrick marlins 11u Runners-Up- LI Muddogs 12u Champions- RGMVM Aces 12u Runners-Up- Garden City Bombers 13u Champions- Team Akadema 13u Runners-Up- LI Prospects 14u Champions- LI Express 14u Runners-Up- Brooklyn Bonnies 15u Champions- LI Renegades 15u Runners-Up- LI Baymen RedSox 16u Champions- North Shore Royals 16u Runners-Up- Pomperaug Panthers 18u Champions- Team Frozen Ropes 18u Runners-Up- Hudson Valley Heat Columbus Tournament 10U Champions: Mid-Hudson Tigers 10U Runners-Up: LI Breakers 11U Champions: Syracuse Sports Zone 11U Runners-Up: LI Threshers 12U Champions: LI Express 12U Runners-Up: Kingsbridge Knights 13U Champions: LI Braves South 13U Runners-Up: Xplosion 14U Champions: NY Gothams 14U Runners-Up: Team Rawlings 15U Champions: CT Heat 15U Runners-Up: LI Renegades 16U Champions: LI Titans Blue 16U Runners-Up: SSBA Nationals 18U Champions: Paveco Storm 18U Runners-Up: LI Astros Know your facts!
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#4784 - 01/02/10 12:08 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Originally Posted By: Anonymous You anonymous people are funny! Know your facts! The Baymen plays in NJBL because Frank Sullivan runs a tight ship and ensures that the games are played. How many of you played in the other leagues and bitched and moaned about missing games???? The Baymen's teams played their games with NJBL! Its funny, I do not see the Outlaws, Breakers, Cobras, Riptid, etc on any of the last listed BBH results for Labor Day or Columbus Day tournaments. But the prospects did finish runner up in the U13 division on Labor Day tournament, as did the U15 Baymen Red Sox. BBH Labor Day results 9u Champions- LI Inferno 9u Runners-Up- NBNM Rebels 10u Champions- LI Inferno 10u Runners-Up- Farmingdale Greendogs 11u Champions- Merrick marlins 11u Runners-Up- LI Muddogs 12u Champions- RGMVM Aces 12u Runners-Up- Garden City Bombers 13u Champions- Team Akadema 13u Runners-Up- LI Prospects 14u Champions- LI Express 14u Runners-Up- Brooklyn Bonnies 15u Champions- LI Renegades 15u Runners-Up- LI Baymen RedSox 16u Champions- North Shore Royals 16u Runners-Up- Pomperaug Panthers 18u Champions- Team Frozen Ropes 18u Runners-Up- Hudson Valley Heat Columbus Tournament 10U Champions: Mid-Hudson Tigers 10U Runners-Up: LI Breakers 11U Champions: Syracuse Sports Zone 11U Runners-Up: LI Threshers 12U Champions: LI Express 12U Runners-Up: Kingsbridge Knights 13U Champions: LI Braves South 13U Runners-Up: Xplosion 14U Champions: NY Gothams 14U Runners-Up: Team Rawlings 15U Champions: CT Heat 15U Runners-Up: LI Renegades 16U Champions: LI Titans Blue 16U Runners-Up: SSBA Nationals 18U Champions: Paveco Storm 18U Runners-Up: LI Astros Know your facts! Isn't Frank Sullivan directly affiliated with the Baymen?
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#4789 - 01/02/10 01:17 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Allow me to interrupt your state of confusion by introducing some inconvenient facts. First of all, no one in impugning the respectability of the Baymen organization or even referencing their 15U team. Second, who cares about Labor Day and Columbus Day tournaments, many of the kids that played Spring and Summer baseball had moved on to other sports and activities. Third, the Team Akadema that you referred to playing in the Labor Day tournament at BBH was not the same one that you might have been familiar with from NJBL competition. For that tournament, the 3 Akadema coaches' sons and a roster member friend of one of the sons were the only carry-overs from the original team. The remaining 7 players on the referred to tournament team were pulled from a 14U NY Outlaws team. They had played up in age during the Summer but all were qualified to play 13U. Most of these kid's were on the previous year's NY Outlaws roster that won one of the weekly Cooperstown Dreams Park tournaments. In spite of all these manipulations, the Prospects gave them a run for the money. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but no one is entitled to their own facts. P.S., I have no idea why you listed the champions and runners-up for the Labor Day and Columbus Day tournaments.
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#4790 - 01/02/10 02:09 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Frank Sullivan owns the Baymen , Montchal is his front man,That is why all baymen teams do not venture outside the NJBL,His league also.
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#4791 - 01/02/10 02:24 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Not true,Frank Sullivan does NOT own the Baymen. He is a great guy who runs a great league.
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#4792 - 01/02/10 03:16 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Sullivan does not own the Baymen, He runs the NJBL and has a very good working relationship with the Baymen as he has with many other teams. The Baymen do venture outside the NJBL. The 16U Baymen Red Sox played 8 tournaments and did very well finishing second three times against teams that were stacked with studs. The 16U Baymen clippers player 6 tournaments winning one and finishing well in others. The 15U Baymen Storm did 7 tournaments and finished with a combined winning record. With that said the Baymendo have a strong commitment to the NJBL because it is ran very well.
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#4794 - 01/02/10 03:47 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	The Baymen Redsox played outside of NJBL this fall and particpated in the Fall PAL Brookhaven League.
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#4795 - 01/02/10 03:48 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	I listed the Labor and Columbus Day Tournaments because they were the only tournament results available at the BBH page.
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#4798 - 01/02/10 04:02 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	I heard the Baymen red Sox are going to be playing Bos of summmer in 2010.
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#4799 - 01/02/10 04:02 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Without top line competition, who can rightfully claim to be a big fish in a big pond. Winning this tounament, placing well in that tournament is all window dressing without the big fish. And please, no Whalers jokes.
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#4800 - 01/02/10 04:10 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Yes it is nice to win tournaments, but when you go in with your 12 players and play teams that bring in ringers; yes you are Happy to do well. The Baymen Red Sox stay true to their players beat many of these so called big money teams. Where are all these tournament wins by other big profile money teams? I don’t see it. I think the Baymen Red Sox are there as one of the "Big Fish”
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#4801 - 01/02/10 04:17 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Baymen stay true to their players and do not shuffle in other players for a win at any cost. They play with their regular roster.
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#4803 - 01/02/10 04:20 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Unlike the Threshers who always have and always will poach kids from other teams to win tournaments. If you plan on going to Cooperstown with that team be forewarned .
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#4805 - 01/02/10 04:28 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Okay, you forced me to go to the NJBL website and look at the competition in the Summer league division the Baymen Red Sox played in. Just focusing on that point alone, I have one comment - "You've got to be kidding me!"
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#4806 - 01/02/10 04:29 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
akon Hall of Fame Registered: 11/13/09 Posts: 249	Frank Sullivan was the original Baymen founder and handed the org. over to the Monthchals. He still has control over the fields and uses them whenever he wants which leaves the baymen teams out of the mix on occasion. The Montchals teams get special treatment from him due to this fact, the other teams are just red headed step children always getting the short end of the stick. Baymen org. has two teams at every age group and twelve teams using two fields it just doesn't work. Some teams can get only 2 or 3 games during a season on their home field and if it's rained out good luck rescheduling. Not as well run as you might think from what they are saying.
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#4807 - 01/02/10 04:33 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	No I not Kidding , list the top 2010 16u teams. The Baymen have played them all and either won the game or lost by a few in good tight games. Is that not what we all claim to be looking for? I am not putting down the other 16U team , but the Red Sox are right there.
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#4809 - 01/02/10 04:36 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Wrong again bb101. All teams get the same feild time, all teams get 1/2 the season on the feild. Sounds like you have some sour grapes!
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#4811 - 01/02/10 04:58 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Baymen and NJBL are good places to play.
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#4812 - 01/02/10 05:09 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: akon]
My 2 Cents Unregistered	I have been reading this board for a couple of days now and thought I should reply to the statement that Baymen teams only get to play 2-3 home games at the Baymen field. My son plays for the Baymen and played the majority (more than half) of his games on the Baymen field. Weekly practices (sometimes more) were held on the Baymen field. I am very pleased with the Baymen organzation.
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#4817 - 01/02/10 05:43 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Who's talking 16U. Our comments are 14U and 15U only for the 2010 year. Enough with the Baymen already. Also, any reasonable minded person will agree that the competition at NJBL doesn't stand up to most other leagues. In the words of Biggy Smalls "in you don't know, now you know, you know."
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#4819 - 01/02/10 05:53 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Anybody know what's going on with the 14U and 15U North Shore Royals?
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#5146 - 01/04/10 09:11 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Reaonable Minded Unregistered	Ok, I take issue with your last post. First, I question the credibility of a person who quotes dead criminal rap stars. Biggy Smalls is not the kind of role model I want by son to emulate. Ok, now let me take on the meat of your argument. You state that the competition in the U14 and U15 NJBL doesn't stand up to most other leagues. I take exception to that and just look at last years tournament results and you will find that NJBL's Team Rawlings, Storm Academy, Baymen, Marlins beat up on some of BOS, PAL, BBH teams. Now you know!
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#5174 - 01/04/10 11:11 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Because I can find a few hairs on my scalp, it doesn't mean I am not bald. You are singling out a handful of team from an entire league of teams? I was speaking of the general level of competition, which is lower than the others stated. Also, no one is asking anyone's son to emulate anyone. A quote is a quote. "Can you feel me?" "Do you catch my vibe?" "Are you jiggy with it?"
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#5179 - 01/05/10 08:03 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Boys of Summer registration meeting is Jan 7th. 13u -18u.
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#5193 - 01/05/10 01:06 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Coach44 Unregistered	The NJBL offers more of a diversity in talent than the other leagues on LI. A team playing in the American or National division is considered more talented than a team that plays in the Regional division. It was purposely set up that way so that like talented teams can play against each other and have competitive games. So please do not make a blanket statement that the NJBL has inferior talent. An NJBL American and National team can compete with most teams within their age groups on LI. As a previous posted pointed out, several of the NJBL American Teams beat up some of the top teams in the other leagues. Personally, I have had many years of experience with all of the different leagues on LI but always seem to come back to the NJBL because of the tight ship Frank Sullivan runs.
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#5194 - 01/05/10 01:09 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Not to mention playing on real grass fields. While many of the fields are awful, still beats playing on a carpet at BH. Portable mounds or cement mounds where a pitcher can't get any leg drive at BH stink as well.
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#5210 - 01/05/10 08:02 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
BaseballDad College Ballplayer Registered: 11/13/09 Posts: 18	From a guy who has spent many years sweeping and raking muddy fields and cutting outfield grass at the local school so our game can be played I vote for Boys of summer. College fields, better HS fields. No maintenance needed.
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#5340 - 01/08/10 05:23 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Here are a couple of competitive 14U teams that we have faced: LI Braves: they have two 14U teams, both of which are good LI Hurricanes Storm Outlaws
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#5344 - 01/08/10 08:26 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Attended Boys of summer registration meeting last night - looks like there will be 16 teams in each division from 13u to 18u. If your a good team and want to play against the best competition this is where you belong.
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#5357 - 01/08/10 10:44 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	What are the fees and what if anything does it include?
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#5360 - 01/08/10 12:27 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Whatever happened to the LI Playmakers? They used to be the best team on LI.
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#5362 - 01/08/10 01:00 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	They disbanded after parents had enough of Pasarro's idiotic way on a baseball field. He believed that making an ass of ones self and the team all for the sake of winning was the only way. His ego ruined the two teams he had. Some of those kids are the core players on the 14u Outlaws.
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#5364 - 01/08/10 01:32 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Originally Posted By: Anonymous What are the fees and what if anything does it include? 13 and 14u are $1700 and 15 up are $2100 which includes all fields.
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#5370 - 01/08/10 02:59 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	What fields does it include? Probably the same ones everyone complained about last year when the leagues were combined. I was at the meeting also and the fields they mentioned are obviously top notch, but do the math: 16 teams per age group * 6 age groups= 96 teams. 96 teams all of which have a 27 game schedule totals over 1200 games to be played in a 8 or 9 week season, its hard to imagine Long Island has enough quality fields to make the league worth 2100 plus umpires. If a league of this magnitude ran as poorly as it did last year when the Baseball Heaven complex was used as the primary location why would one believe it would improve this year. Not to mention a there are hardly any other quality lit fields in the area, and Moriches will be used as the primary location for the TOB league.
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#5372 - 01/08/10 03:40 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	WELL SAID....AND TRUE
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#5373 - 01/08/10 03:45 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Very true! Great point and defintiely something to consider before making a final decision as far as which league to join. At the very least BBH has committed to only playing league games on site and TOB primariily uses Moriches, so you know they have there own fields. BOS seems to be overbooking and they do not even have full access to any fields
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#5423 - 01/08/10 09:42 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Originally Posted By: Anonymous What fields does it include? Probably the same ones everyone complained about last year when the leagues were combined. I was at the meeting also and the fields they mentioned are obviously top notch, but do the math: 16 teams per age group * 6 age groups= 96 teams. 96 teams all of which have a 27 game schedule totals over 1200 games to be played in a 8 or 9 week season, its hard to imagine Long Island has enough quality fields to make the league worth 2100 plus umpires. If a league of this magnitude ran as poorly as it did last year when the Baseball Heaven complex was used as the primary location why would one believe it would improve this year. Not to mention a there are hardly any other quality lit fields in the area, and Moriches will be used as the primary location for the TOB league. So your thinking the 15+ fields that were mentioned including, Dowling, Farmingdale, Suffolk CC, Adelphi, St Josephs, 3xMoriches, St Anthonys, CYA, PAL Stadium, Brentwood Complex - Your saying baseball heaven can accomadate more teams with ONLY4 FIELDS??? Come on now !!!!
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#5424 - 01/08/10 09:44 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Originally Posted By: Anonymous Very true! Great point and defintiely something to consider before making a final decision as far as which league to join. At the very least BBH has committed to only playing league games on site and TOB primariily uses Moriches, so you know they have there own fields. BOS seems to be overbooking and they do not even have full access to any fields Again - BOS has about 70 teams and 20 fields. BBH has over 100 teams and 4 fields plus tournaments each weekend. YES, something to consider. Do the math !!
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#5427 - 01/08/10 09:51 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Why don't you go to NJBL - played there for years - a few hundred bucks - fields are good enough
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#5429 - 01/08/10 09:55 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	BOS will take everyones money like last year and not be able to deliver and will be back here again writing about it. Don't write here if you get suckered in again.
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#5457 - 01/09/10 08:02 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	If you were at the BBH meeting in December, you would know that BBH is only taking a limitied amount of teams for the summer and all teams will be playing on their fields only. If you look online it says 8 teams in each division on their four 90ft fields, with the winners receiving bids to Perfect game Tournaments. Doing it that way gives them more than enough fields for teams to play on. At least that's what they said. I'm playing there. I can't go thru another seaon of having my scheduled changed daily because of field availability.
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#5460 - 01/09/10 09:58 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	BOS had over 100 teams join BBH last year - All the issues were because BBH overbooked. BOS is back on their own where it has always been great league and competition. If you dont know what your talking about dont post bullcrap on this site.
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#5463 - 01/09/10 10:15 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	The credibility of BBH no longer exists. Where is the commitment to repair the fields, no to mention the many spectator seats that are broken and score boards that don't work. And who will be responsible for oversight of operations?Last year, BOS made a big mistake hooking up with BBH. The incompetence of BBH and the All-Pro group that came in to manage it is what is to be avoided.
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#5472 - 01/09/10 03:56 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	First off BOS did not have over 100 teams join BBH last year. Know your facts. Second, there were schedule issues. I remember them because I played in the league, but how can you put the blame on just BBH when it came to the schedules. BOS had no control of all of those outside fields, as they did in previous years. It was a joint venture from BOS, BBH & FABL. EVERYONE WAS TO BLAME.
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#5473 - 01/09/10 05:44 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Wrong you are. BBH had sole control of scheduling. In fact they ended up firing the person that did them before the seasons end. ALSO - BOS did have over 100 teams at the merger. SO - Know your facts.
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#5494 - 01/10/10 08:05 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Mind if I jump in this debate. I have played in NJBL, BOS & BBH. Last year I played in BBH/BOS/FABL. There is no way that BOS & FABL took over 100 teams into this merger. It's maybe somewhere near 75 or so at the most. Also, I hold everyone that was involved last year responsible, not just BBH. I only played 15 games. There were many factors why the schedules were messed up and when we had a question, we never received an answer from anyone. BBH didn't control the outside fields, I think BOS did,because I played on those fields for them before and I think that's where the problems started becuase nobdy had any answers. Why do people have to get into he said/she said remarks. Just play for whoever you want to play for. BOS had the best baseball competition. I'm going back to BBH though, because of the Perfect Game bids and being able just to play at one location works better for me and my team's schedule.
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#5497 - 01/10/10 10:45 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Well with all these post I can tell you this for a fact. Top 2010, 15U teams are playing NJBL summer. If you are looking to play the best teams, play there.
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#5498 - 01/10/10 10:53 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Knowitall Hall of Fame Registered: 01/03/10 Posts: 167	Also from what I know if things didnt change since last year. The TOB/Pal had strong 14 division at the top. They had the North Shore Cougars,NY Blue Jays,riverhead(MLI Team),Elite,East Islip. This year the 14u should be pretty strong as it has. Hauppauge Eagles, Ronkonkoma Cardinals,LI Cardinals,Elite. Only problem with the league is lack of good teams at the bottom of the league. They have great fields in moriches. They also use diamon in the pines in coram.
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#5501 - 01/10/10 12:19 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Knowitall]
Anonymous Unregistered	North Shore Cougers had a great 2009, they are a top team. They are playing NJBL this year. The Blue Jays are a tough team but played less then half thier games. Riverhead was ok and East Islip was strong. Put them with Team Rawlings , LI Marlins , LI Hawlks , Ducks , LI Baymen and LI Storm and you have a tough division. Dont Know where the Express is going ,add them, strong team who has got stronger this year. Would be nice if the top team from NJBL could play top team from BOS at the end of year.
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#5502 - 01/10/10 01:08 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Originally Posted By: Anonymous Well with all these post I can tell you this for a fact. Top 2010, 15U teams are playing NJBL summer. If you are looking to play the best teams, play there. BOS League has the Titans, Ducks, Mariners, Bandits, MLI, Whalers, Cobras - What top teams are you referring to??? Best competition is hands down Boys Of Summer.
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#5503 - 01/10/10 01:09 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Originally Posted By: Anonymous Would be nice if the top team from NJBL could play top team from BOS at the end of year. ITS CALLED TOURNAMENTS - ENTER A FEW AND YOU CAN PLAY A FEW BETTER BOS TEAMS.
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#5504 - 01/10/10 01:13 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Titans, Ducks, Mariners, Bandits, MLI, ?????? give me a break.
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#5505 - 01/10/10 01:26 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Originally Posted By: Anonymous Titans, Ducks, Mariners, Bandits, MLI, ?????? give me a break. Can you elaborate on your "Give me a break" Are you saying those teams are no good? I know each of these teams have won many championships!!! Who are you saying is better?
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#5506 - 01/10/10 01:53 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Hopefully the TOB/PAL won't let those morons that coach the elite come back. They're an embarrasment to youth baseball and have the worst sportmanship ever!
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#5508 - 01/10/10 02:56 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Titans 15U can not even be metioned , they move thier best 15U players up. So as a team they usualy are not a top team at thier age groups until they hit the 16U level. Then look out. Ducks are a new team every season , and usulay do not finish well. Mariners 15U team is completely new, they were bad last year and will be worse this year. Alot of nice kids but, come on? Bandits had some great 14U players play at 15U last year , it will depend on what they put out this year. 4 teams one should be good. You can not say they are good since their teams are new. MLI did not have a team at the 14U level lat year. Maybe I missed somthing. Teams on LI to beat: TOP 4 Team Rawlings (2009 NJBL) North Sore Cougers (2009 Brookhaven , 2010 NJBL) Express (Tournament) also played up at Baseball Heaven. LI Storm (2009 NJBL) TOP NY Teams Bonnies Gothems Blue Jays
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#5509 - 01/10/10 03:09 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	"BBH didn't control the outside fields, I THINK BOS did ......." You are wrong! Because you think doesn't mean you know, and in this case you are sharing an inacurate statement. Good luck at BBH. Every situation is different. BBH does offer convenience, BOS offers the best competition and best quality "real fields," and NJBL is the cheapest of the top tier organizaations.
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#5511 - 01/10/10 03:32 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	It is actually a very accurate statement as BOS did control the outside fields in 2009. As far as competition goes BOS does probably have the better of the teams and they do have some great fields. But this thread is about 14u and 15u teams....Teams in these age groups will rarely get to play on any of the top notch fields BOS offers. These fields will be used 90 percent of the time for 17 and 18u.
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#5512 - 01/10/10 03:42 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	LOL "Real Fields" we will see what you say when your team ends up playing at Ronkonkoma JHS or at the CYA Complex just like you did last year, why? Because BOS was responsible for the outside fields last year and will have the same ones this year. Dowling, Farmingdale and the PAL Stadium are nice but how many games do you think 14 and 15u teams will play there? The answer is not many...
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#5516 - 01/10/10 05:04 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	We are 14U & 15U and will be playing BBH this summer.
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#5520 - 01/10/10 06:22 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
LI Bandits Hall of Fame Registered: 11/29/09 Posts: 105 Loc: long Island , NY	Bandits teams 13 and up will be playing Boys of summer. _________________________ Long Island Bandits http://www.libandits.org have competitive travel teams from 12u to 18u. We compete in local, regional and national baseball tournaments.
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#5521 - 01/10/10 06:32 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: LI Bandits]
Anonymous Unregistered	I am in no way associated with the L.I. Bandits and my sons have never registered to play for them, but I can tell all of you that their current 14U and 15U teams represent high level competition. So the above response is an affirmative vote for BOS.
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#5522 - 01/10/10 06:46 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Originally Posted By: Anonymous North Shore Cougers had a great 2009, they are a top team. They are playing NJBL this year. The Blue Jays are a tough team but played less then half thier games. Riverhead was ok and East Islip was strong. Put them with Team Rawlings , LI Marlins , LI Hawlks , Ducks , LI Baymen and LI Storm and you have a tough division. Dont Know where the Express is going ,add them, strong team who has got stronger this year. Would be nice if the top team from NJBL could play top team from BOS at the end of year. Baymen Lightning are no more....
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#5523 - 01/10/10 06:49 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	That is said to hear. That was a good team with some realy good coaches. What happen to them?
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#5524 - 01/10/10 06:51 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Originally Posted By: Anonymous That is said to hear. That was a good team with some realy good coaches. What happen to them? Not sure....you can read it here... http://www.leaguelineup.com/welcome.asp?url=baymen
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#5762 - 01/18/10 10:34 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	I heard the Riptide have dispanded. Anybody know why?
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#5763 - 01/18/10 11:04 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	The Riptide was definitely an above-average team, but they had stagnated. Unless the chemistry of a team is solidly intact, running a team is like riding a bicycle. If the general sense is that your team is not progressing, while some of your peer competitors are, it is only a matter of time before the parts start to come off. I understand last year's 13U Riptide manager was not the best skilled at bonding a team together. It's not a surprise. The year before, a team nemesis, The Playmakers, met it's demise. Once things start to fall apart, it's very, very hard to change course.
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#5769 - 01/19/10 11:41 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	I do not know who the Playmakers were, but I have seen them referenced a few times. To someone who may be familiar with the team, did they fall apart when they went to the big field, or did they also play well on the big field. The team I am talking about is the team I believe that was very good at 10 or 11. Tks.
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#5772 - 01/19/10 12:18 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	The Playmaker team that I knew of fell apart at the end of their 12U season 2 years ago. They played Spring/Summer/Tournaments at BBH and even went to Cooperstown Dreams Park on 2 separate weeks. They were a good team. They never got a chance to play on the big fields.
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#5781 - 01/20/10 07:51 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Both these teams started four or five years ago and were two of the top teams around but as was stated above had stagnated. When you fail to add players to push established players on a team a state of entitlement settles in. There is no one to challenge the status quo.It all depends what you want,play the top teams and tweak your team every year or stay where you are and play with the same kids who have been there for years. Having the same coach also leads to stagnation as the players will start to tune out as they have heard it from the same person all those years. The Outlaws after two winning years changed there coach and hired one. Although it apparently did not work out they at least we willing to bring in someone with a new outlook. Moving to the bigger fields hurt The_Playmakers and the Riptide a whole different game, you need players who can track balls in the outfield and infielders who can make that throw deep in the hole.Again it's all what you want stay with the same players every year enjoy playing with each other or make those changes that keep you in stride, with what the top teams are doing.
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#5783 - 01/20/10 08:55 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	I agree with the above, but I would like to add another perspective. How teams evolve also depends on what gains or losses they encounter as competing teams try to cannibalize the better players. It can really boil down to who is the most "cold hearted." Keep in mind that it is a zero sum game. When new players are aggressively added to a team, others are unceremoniously cut. Using an extreme example, a few years ago, the 12U NY Outlaws team won a tournament week at Cooperstown Dreams Park. During their championship game, some of their regular roster players sat the bench while "outside kids" that were tournament add-ons played. As you can imagine, none of the coaches sons did the sitting. How's that for memories? A year later, a couple of kids were dropped from the team to make room for new add-ons. If this is the kind of "cut-throat" styled "success" you are looking for, be careful of what you are looking for.
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#5784 - 01/20/10 09:12 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Coach Unregistered	Many teams are guilty of this practice, I too once fell into this trap. If you cant win with the team you play with all year long are you really winning by staking your team for a tournament??
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#5785 - 01/20/10 09:29 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Originally Posted By: Anonymous Coach Many teams are guilty of this practice, I too once fell into this trap. If you cant win with the team you play with all year long are you really winning by staking your team for a tournament?? Originally Posted By: Anonymous Both these teams started four or five years ago and were two of the top teams around but as was stated above had stagnated. When you fail to add players to push established players on a team a state of entitlement settles in. There is no one to challenge the status quo.It all depends what you want,play the top teams and tweak your team every year or stay where you are and play with the same kids who have been there for years. Having the same coach also leads to stagnation as the players will start to tune out as they have heard it from the same person all those years. The Outlaws after two winning years changed there coach and hired one. Although it apparently did not work out they at least we willing to bring in someone with a new outlook. Moving to the bigger fields hurt The_Playmakers and the Riptide a whole different game, you need players who can track balls in the outfield and infielders who can make that throw deep in the hole.Again it's all what you want stay with the same players every year enjoy playing with each other or make those changes that keep you in stride, with what the top teams are doing. So did the Playmaker move to the big field, another post said they didn't. Again I have no idea who they were, just have seen them ref to a nbr of times.
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#5786 - 01/20/10 09:38 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	I think you would be hard pressed to find any team that if had the opportunity to get the " outside players" you mention above turning them down and not playing them in a championship game. Without those players they are not in that game. I believe one of those players was already committed to play with them before Cooperstown and is still with them. The other is the best player in that age group hands down.
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#5787 - 01/20/10 09:56 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	BOTH OF THOSE TEAMS HAD CRAZY, OBNOXIOUS MANAGERS!
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#5788 - 01/20/10 10:08 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	I already answered the question regarding The Playmakers. NO THEY DID NOT PLAY ON THE BIG FIELD. They disbanded after 12U. They had the players to do so, they just didn't have the team.
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#5789 - 01/20/10 11:31 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	I see where you are confused. One of the posts suggested that The Playmakers players had trouble tracking balls in the outfield and their shortstop could make throws from deep in the hole on "the big fields." In the words of Roger Clemens "those statements were mis-remembered." They never played on the big fields. FYI, their starting shortstop and one of their outfielders moved over to The Outlaws at 13U, when teams were brought over to the big fields.
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#5790 - 01/20/10 11:43 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Although The Outlaws brought in a new coach for only 1 season, we all know who really runs that team. And yes, the coaches of both teams, as well as others with their same approach, are obnoxious.
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#5791 - 01/20/10 12:24 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	The term you are looking for when teams add players for tournament and championship games is called poaching or ringer. Most teams do it and get away with it. In fairness, I will not name the team nor manager, but I witnessed a manager handing a player a team jersey outside a dugout prior to a playoff game.
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#5794 - 01/20/10 01:12 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	so how do you do it then how do you improve. If you add a player your poaching and pushing aside someone else. When are you "allowed" to make a roster change. It seems that a player is bound for life with a team, and if they want to leave for a "better team they and the team that they want to play for have to put up with a lot of BS.
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#5798 - 01/20/10 03:16 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	The difficulty is in how to control a sense of fairness and an intent that is respectable. Are you going to throw your son in an environment where he will be looked at like a replaceable, used part? If so, keep one eye on the trash heap. In terms of fairness, go to The Outlaws website and look up the starting batting order used in their championship game. The "add-on kid" that is referred to as "the hands down best" in his age group isn't batting clean-up, but guess who is? Getting back to my general point, there will always be reasons that can create turnover in a team's roster. If a "good fit" and sense of compatibility isn't there, that's okay just readjust. It's up to the managers to create a healthy playing environment. The Outlaws, L.I. Riptide, and The Playmakers have not, and for different reasons.
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#5799 - 01/20/10 03:59 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	The Outlaws and the others all have one thing in common, Daddy Coaches who play their kids first,WAKE UP PEOPLE
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#5801 - 01/20/10 04:55 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	There seems to be a void between "daddy coaches" and for-profit 3rd party run teams. Two opposite ends. Might The Titans be an example of a 3rd party well-run organization?
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#5802 - 01/20/10 05:05 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	The void is filled by Dads who coach and whose sons are just players , not centerpieces .
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#5803 - 01/20/10 05:27 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Dont kid yourself, dads who coach their own teams build their sons fees into all the others,all teams are for profit! No such thing as non profit, all that means is they get tax exceptions The biggest non-profit organization in the world also has the most money, the Catholic Church !!
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#5804 - 01/20/10 05:37 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Can I get an "Amen?"
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#5805 - 01/20/10 06:15 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Originally Posted By: Anonymous The term you are looking for when teams add players for tournament and championship games is called poaching or ringer. Most teams do it and get away with it. In fairness, I will not name the team nor manager, but I witnessed a manager handing a player a team jersey outside a dugout prior to a playoff game. Was it the Threshers? lol
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#5806 - 01/20/10 06:31 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Originally Posted By: Anonymous Dont kid yourself, dads who coach their own teams build their sons fees into all the others,all teams are for profit! No such thing as non profit, all that means is they get tax exceptions The biggest non-profit organization in the world also has the most money, the Catholic Church !! You are an ignorant, anti-Catholic, bigot!
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#5807 - 01/20/10 06:42 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	The Vatican has more money than most countries , don't kid yourself . That statement has more truth than saying all Dad coached teams build in their kids fees . I coach and I pay . Not to say that SOME people not only play for free but turn a nice profit off your kids . I witnessed one moron make over $500 during one NJBL season . It's still only a few , not all .
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#5808 - 01/20/10 06:50 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Politics, Religion, Daddy Coached teams, Not for profit, Bashing kids, coaches and teams, This web site has really helped with baseball on Long Island. Some of you have to grow up and maybe Coach a team. That might get you to stop crying like a bunch of Bi----s. That all this site is, Cry baby, Jealous babies. Daddy Coaching takes up more time than you would ever know. But what do you care, as long as you are told your kid is the next Jeter you are happy. To hell with everyone else. Ever say hey Daddy Coach you need a hand with anything? Didn't think so, Did you ever say you need any extra money for balls or for the kid that the Daddy Coach let play and the parents never paid for the season or tournaments, but you feel bad for the kid. Didn't think so. How about get off the Coaches back for once. Most teams started practicing again and some Daddy Coach is spending time with your kid while you drop and run. How about chippin in. Whatever reason Daddy Coaches, Coach they are still spending more time with your kid then you are. Sometimes kids come along that cant afford to play, I don't think anyone would mind chipping in a few more dollars to help that kid. Not many of us are paying there bills with youth baseball.
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#5809 - 01/20/10 07:04 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	I , for one , always end the season in the hole . My personal favorite is " Can you PICK -UP my son , I'm too busy ". I never say no though , because I'm Daddy Coach !
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#5810 - 01/20/10 07:07 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Thank you, I do also.
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#5812 - 01/20/10 07:53 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	It figures, a Daddy Coach defending daddy coaches. Last I heard, we still have freedom of speech in this country. Let's leave the catholic church out of this discussion. And yes, I have coached before and enjoyed every minute of it. I took pleasure in advancing the skill levels of each kid, so don't go there unless you want to display ignorance. If you can't see the contamination of youth athletics by most individuals seeking positions of authority, you are blind, deaf or disingenuous. You can close your eyes, scream or try to blame others, but the truth doesn't change.
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#5813 - 01/20/10 09:00 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Do you remember your youth coaches fondly or with the distain for the volunteers of today ?
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#5816 - 01/20/10 09:29 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Originally Posted By: Anonymous The Vatican has more money than most countries , don't kid yourself . That statement has more truth than saying all Dad coached teams build in their kids fees . I coach and I pay . Not to say that SOME people not only play for free but turn a nice profit off your kids . I witnessed one moron make over $500 during one NJBL season . It's still only a few , not all . Prejudice a-hole!
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#5817 - 01/20/10 09:42 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	I played at the time when community organized teams competed against one another in the Connie Mack and Stan Musial leagues. The fields were provided by the communities, there were no tournaments, no poaching of players, fewer incidents of over-pitching of arms, lesser overall games each season, no Fall baseball, and community selected coaches that took pride in their teams without becoming overbearing, power-hungry and manipulative. Unfortunately today, most community-based little league systems are corrupted. As we stand now, we can't go back in time, we can't stay where we are and we can't go sideways. The only way to reach positive change is from the bottom up, just like the voters of Massachusetts.
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#5819 - 01/20/10 10:19 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Yes I have heard of Freedom of speech, and I sure don't throw that around with an anonymous post.I will defend Daddy Coaches and call them COACHES because that is what they are. People like you bash and spread lies and hate and then everyone gets annoyed. There are thousands of VOLUNTEER COACHES ON THE ISLAND AND THEY ALL SHOULD BE PROUD OF IT. HOW ABOUT YOU TEACH YOUR SON HOW TO FIX PROBLEMS WHEN THEY ARISE NOT WHINE ABOUT THEM AND WAIT FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO FIX THEM. stop the Bashing already and figure out how baseball could be better for the kids that are coming up and what we could change. If what you say is the truth then what would you like changed? Do you have any answers? I would assume it won't happen, because you gave up already. Truth hurts What bothers you? Parents can't commit don't pay on time can't drive the kid to the game show up late for practices and games. don't show up. go to another team. spending money on the team that comes out of your pocket. taking time and money from your family to give to people that have but don't are irresponsible. it's so easy. IF you think it is you need to get out more. DAMN STRAIGHT I WILL DEFEND VOLUNTEER COACHES, MAYBE YOU SHOULD TOO.
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#5820 - 01/20/10 10:25 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Don't use the sentence" Most community groups are corrupted" you don't know if that's true. This is another unsubstantiated sentence that is used carelessly. you don't know, don't say stupid stuff like that.
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#5821 - 01/20/10 10:31 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Unless you can prove what you are saying to refute what I am saying, why don't you say "I disagree with you ........" Other than that, don't tell me what I should or shouldn't say, bud. It's my than my opinion, it's my conclusion from observing and weighing what others have said.
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#5822 - 01/20/10 10:33 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	I meant to say "it's more than my opinion, ....."
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#5824 - 01/20/10 10:40 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Observing and weighing what others have said. This is something that you have heard from someone just like you posted on here.This is how this bull crap gets started. It is an unsubstantiated conclusion. Don't say things just to say them. its starts wrong opinions. BUD
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#5825 - 01/20/10 11:29 PM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Let me add a comma to help you understand what I wrote. "it's more than my opinion, it's my conclusion from observing, and weighing what others have said." Did you catch on? MY observations and weighing the comments of others. You should write a script for TV and have them put it on CSI:SVU. Your laundry list of misplaced burdens has brought me to tears. What keeps you doing it?
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#5827 - 01/21/10 08:52 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Hey coach, why don't you start a fraternity with your fellow coaching buddies, build a campfire, and sing "Kumbaya."
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#5831 - 01/21/10 10:01 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Your false accusations keep it going. I can get you a case of tissues if it helps.
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#5834 - 01/21/10 10:45 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	It's called gossip. When you hear or say something you like about someone you don't. Coward!
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#5836 - 01/21/10 10:48 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	IT'S A LOT EASIER TO POINT A FINGER, THAN TO LEND A HAND!
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#5838 - 01/21/10 10:55 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	I am a coach for an organization that has played the whalers - Younger teams were week- we played 14,15 and 16u last year and found them to have very competitive teams - just my opinion.
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#23531 - 09/05/11 01:04 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing?1 [Re: Anonymous]
Anonymous Unregistered	Congratulations to the LI Bayment 14U Thunder NJBL champions.
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#23541 - 09/05/11 11:50 AM Re: Where Are Top 14U and 15U Teams Playing? [Re: spanky]
Anonymous Unregistered	What? Whalers really struggled. 15 U American, finished in sixth, 13 U last, 14 U National, tenth. 16 U National seventh. Come on.
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