Travel Organizations

Posted by: lima

Travel Organizations - 02/17/14 09:59 AM

Which are the top organizations on Long Island?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/17/14 08:22 PM

Good question, there have been many issues with some "known" organizations lately. As in coaches/board members leaving, starting their own etc etc. As of know my opinion, and I have been around a while and seen them all go up and down, the following seem to be going along OK.
Team Long Island, careful though on the coach all ways good players on top teams, some teams not the best players, may be after the money now
LI Bandits, they seem to have some up and comers, and watch the coach and again too many teams top teams are very good, not always the case
LI Chargers, careful on the team/coach, some teams in trouble I hear
Sudden Impact again coach/team important, some issues
Find a good coach not a jersey name, then if/when recruiting becomes important look around,
Too many teams now, especially in Suffolk, talent spread out or watered down at younger ages, lots of Daddy teams, be careful. Can't say it enough find a coach not a jersey name. Good and bad everywhere, watch out for profit driven orgs
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/18/14 01:16 PM

Depends what your looking for. If 8U-12U looking to collect trophies and not teach your kid anything, look for ones that say FREE BASEBALL and find out which ones have dad coaching and son playing SS, pitching and batting 3rd. If 13-18U with hopes your kid plays varsity and perhaps more, nothing better than word of mouth to find out who instructs the best, who has most connections, and who has most success with their kids having attended showcase events. To each his own, depends on your priority
Posted by: lima

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/19/14 11:17 AM

I have heard the Chiefs and the Crush are very good organizations as well. They just won't take a player that isn't in that particular birth year. ex: They won't take 2004 for a 2003 team. I don't get it, if they are good enough what is the difference.
Posted by: lima

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/19/14 02:31 PM

Chiefs and Crush? Any input on these. I have an 8 year old that is decent and would like to start her in travel ball.
thanks,
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/19/14 10:45 PM

Is there any 8u teams?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/20/14 08:07 AM

LI Force in Bellmore/Wantagh area one of the best. Very good coaches and excellent new facility.
Posted by: Fastpitch Junkie

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/21/14 09:09 AM

That’s a difficult question to ask on an Anonymous forum such as this because you do not know who is responding and if they have an agenda or not. So for what it’s worth here is how I would answer your question. I believe it depends more on your daughter’s age and what you are looking to achieve.

At the younger ages, it is not so as much about the Organization as it is about the coach of the team you are looking to play for. I have seen some of the top Organizations have teams that fail and some of the lower no name Organizations succeed at a team level primarily because of the coach who runs that team.

Younger ages need to be all about teaching and developing player skill sets. In doing so, a Coach needs to makes it fun and enjoyable for the kids. This will keep kids engaged and ensure that a player’s love for the sport continues to grow.

When it comes time for your daughter to play at the 18U level it most likely because she has interested in playing softball in college, so now it becomes more about recruiting. At this point the Organization you play for becomes a bigger part of your decision. You now need to get your daughter in an Organization that has developed a strong name and track record for placing kids into college.

Understand that College coaches want to talk to Travel Ball Coaches that understand what it takes to play softball in college. It is for this reason that it just about impossible for a father run team to get your daughter recruited. So at this point, finding the right Organization with a coach that has developed relationships with College Coaches to help get your kid recruited.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/22/14 03:14 PM

I think Fastpitch Junkie restated what I said, find a coach not a jersey. So when you say I hear Team XYZ is a good organization you have to realize you are not playing on an organization but rather a certain team in a certain organization. It is the TEAM and the COACH that runs the team and at the younger age groups, especiallly 8U, the organization has NO interest in what goes on with the team unless a coach is embarrasing the organization. Also understand why play for Team Awesome and be the 3rd pitcher or 2nd short stop when you can play for Team Sorta Awesome and be the #1 or 2 pitcher or the #1 short stop. Despite what the big teams say they are all basically the same animal, they go to the same recruiting tourny's for the most part, in fact they play each other all summer all over the north east. Some will BS you and say the get more kids into D-1 then others, well I call BS on that. Go to the big team web sites and discover yourself. My advice 12U and under dont worry what team your kid is on, just have fun and make sure she is learning and not being verbally abused. From 12U on and college is an option you gotta go to the big teams for recruiting for the exact reason Junkie said. I personally know several kids from softball, baseball and lacrosse that stayed on Daddy teams and found out in 11th grade no collleges knew who they were or cared. They often found themselves playing on the backfields or the off site fields at the college tourny's where no college coaches dare tread. Go to multiple try outs, talk to the coach and players on the team and find out what tourny's they play in. You may find yourself on a "B" team on Team Really Awesome that rarely leaves LI, kowledge is key, don't be afraid to move to another team but get yourself settled by 16U at the latest so the coaches have a personal interest in your childs success. For the really motivated guys ask around and find out what are the big college tourny's, then go to the tourny website and look up what teams are there from LI. It is usually the Big Teams and not always every big team, also look up the schedules and find out what fields they are playing on. Is it main fields, off site a mixture? This more than anything else should prove to you the value of a team to get your child exposed to college coaches. A friend of my daughters recently traveled to Disney with a Big Team for a big tourny only to find themselves off site and never played at Disney world but spent thousands of dollars to go. Meanwhile her other friend went and played at ESPN Fields 3 or 4 times against top teams from the Nation, she too plays for a Big Team. And I know people who swear by the other organization that got shut out of ESPN fields and trashes the other organization that played on the key fields. You decide what team is better for exposure, the one 10 miles away from ESPN or the one at ESPN. I know I got wordy but I wish I knew then what I know now, and it sickens me to listen to parents talk about certain organizations like they already made it to D-1 cause of their travel team, it don't go like that!!! And I feel sorry for their kids when it doesn't go like that and they are suddenly in 12th grade and are still looking for a college and are heartbroken when clearly less talented kids have been signed or verbaled for months but they played for Team Awesome and they can't understand why the 3rd string pithcer or 2nd string outfielder isn't playing for Michigan.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/23/14 10:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
LI Force in Bellmore/Wantagh area one of the best. Very good coaches and excellent new facility.


LOL
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/25/14 07:27 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
LI Force in Bellmore/Wantagh area one of the best. Very good coaches and excellent new facility.


LOL


They don't have softball teams.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/25/14 09:28 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I think Fastpitch Junkie restated what I said, find a coach not a jersey. So when you say I hear Team XYZ is a good organization you have to realize you are not playing on an organization but rather a certain team in a certain organization. It is the TEAM and the COACH that runs the team and at the younger age groups, especiallly 8U, the organization has NO interest in what goes on with the team unless a coach is embarrasing the organization. Also understand why play for Team Awesome and be the 3rd pitcher or 2nd short stop when you can play for Team Sorta Awesome and be the #1 or 2 pitcher or the #1 short stop. Despite what the big teams say they are all basically the same animal, they go to the same recruiting tourny's for the most part, in fact they play each other all summer all over the north east. Some will BS you and say the get more kids into D-1 then others, well I call BS on that. Go to the big team web sites and discover yourself. My advice 12U and under dont worry what team your kid is on, just have fun and make sure she is learning and not being verbally abused. From 12U on and college is an option you gotta go to the big teams for recruiting for the exact reason Junkie said. I personally know several kids from softball, baseball and lacrosse that stayed on Daddy teams and found out in 11th grade no collleges knew who they were or cared. They often found themselves playing on the backfields or the off site fields at the college tourny's where no college coaches dare tread. Go to multiple try outs, talk to the coach and players on the team and find out what tourny's they play in. You may find yourself on a "B" team on Team Really Awesome that rarely leaves LI, kowledge is key, don't be afraid to move to another team but get yourself settled by 16U at the latest so the coaches have a personal interest in your childs success. For the really motivated guys ask around and find out what are the big college tourny's, then go to the tourny website and look up what teams are there from LI. It is usually the Big Teams and not always every big team, also look up the schedules and find out what fields they are playing on. Is it main fields, off site a mixture? This more than anything else should prove to you the value of a team to get your child exposed to college coaches. A friend of my daughters recently traveled to Disney with a Big Team for a big tourny only to find themselves off site and never played at Disney world but spent thousands of dollars to go. Meanwhile her other friend went and played at ESPN Fields 3 or 4 times against top teams from the Nation, she too plays for a Big Team. And I know people who swear by the other organization that got shut out of ESPN fields and trashes the other organization that played on the key fields. You decide what team is better for exposure, the one 10 miles away from ESPN or the one at ESPN. I know I got wordy but I wish I knew then what I know now, and it sickens me to listen to parents talk about certain organizations like they already made it to D-1 cause of their travel team, it don't go like that!!! And I feel sorry for their kids when it doesn't go like that and they are suddenly in 12th grade and are still looking for a college and are heartbroken when clearly less talented kids have been signed or verbaled for months but they played for Team Awesome and they can't understand why the 3rd string pithcer or 2nd string outfielder isn't playing for Michigan.





So what you are saying is this is the last year for Daddy ball teams like Extreme, chargers and Ducks?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/25/14 01:16 PM

Agree -- LI Force well run organization with excellent facilities. Good training even if the teams have not faired well in local tournaments and leagues.
Posted by: Fastpitch Junkie

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/26/14 07:49 AM

Since the title of this tread is simply Travel Organizations, you have participation from the baseball community as well. That is because on he left side of this webpage, it lists 'Recent Posts' and people just see the title of this thread without seeing that it is listed under the Softball Message Board.

So a recommendation is that in the future, if anyone posts a new thread to discuss fastpitch softball, make sure to use the term Fastpitch or Softball in the title. This will not completely eliminate infiltration by baseball posters but will give us a better chance of keeping the discussion on where it intended to be.
Posted by: Fastpitch Junkie

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/26/14 08:29 AM

Well, I can not guarantee that this is the last year for Daddy-ball teams that you have listed. I am sure that there are several that will continue on especially for kids that don't have high aspirations of taking their game to the college level. So staying where they are to continue to enjoy the game at a more recreational level is absolutely fine.

What I am saying is that any player currently playing at high 14U, 16U or 18U on a father run team that has aspirations of playing in college needs to re-evaluate their situation and get themselves on a team that:

1. Has Coaches that understand what it takes to train and expose your daughter to College level competition,
2. Has a reputation and track record of placing kids into College programs
3. Has developed relationships with College Coaches giving themselves credibility as a travel ball coach they can trust when discussing a possible recruit.

On LI there are a number of organization that have done exactly this, they are:

1. Team LI
2. LI Chargers
3. Sudden Impact
4. LI Express
5. LI Ducks
6. LI Bandits
7. LI Hurricanes
8. Team Nitro
9. LI Anthem
10. LI Pride
11. Frozen Ropes

So my recommendation to any player looking to play in college is to find yourselves a spot on one of these teams to give you the best chance of finding the right college for them.
Posted by: Fastpitch Junkie

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/26/14 08:53 AM

Let me supplement my last statement by saying getting yourself on one of these teams is just one step in the recruiting process. The other half of it is the 'marketing' of the player or your child to colleges she is interested in attending.

Understand these college coaches receive hundreds and thousands of emails from potential recruits, so having your child on one of the above teams also 'validates' her as a player worth taking a look at and going to see at one of the showcase tournaments.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/27/14 06:40 AM

Originally Posted By: Fastpitch Junkie
Well, I can not guarantee that this is the last year for Daddy-ball teams that you have listed. I am sure that there are several that will continue on especially for kids that don't have high aspirations of taking their game to the college level. So staying where they are to continue to enjoy the game at a more recreational level is absolutely fine.

What I am saying is that any player currently playing at high 14U, 16U or 18U on a father run team that has aspirations of playing in college needs to re-evaluate their situation and get themselves on a team that:

1. Has Coaches that understand what it takes to train and expose your daughter to College level competition,
2. Has a reputation and track record of placing kids into College programs
3. Has developed relationships with College Coaches giving themselves credibility as a travel ball coach they can trust when discussing a possible recruit.

On LI there are a number of organization that have done exactly this, they are:

1. Team LI
2. LI Chargers
3. Sudden Impact
4. LI Express
5. LI Ducks
6. LI Bandits
7. LI Hurricanes
8. Team Nitro
9. LI Anthem
10. LI Pride
11. Frozen Ropes

So my recommendation to any player looking to play in college is to find yourselves a spot on one of these teams to give you the best chance of finding the right college for them.


Team LI is a league of their own, for sure.
Frozen Ropes, softball, is really improving and has the coaches and facility to bring in better players. Great value considering the opportunities they give to post-HS players.
LI Ducks always has great coaches and gives players a shot to play after HS.
Bandits, some really good some just OK.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/27/14 08:38 AM

Originally Posted By: Fastpitch Junkie
Well, I can not guarantee that this is the last year for Daddy-ball teams that you have listed. I am sure that there are several that will continue on especially for kids that don't have high aspirations of taking their game to the college level. So staying where they are to continue to enjoy the game at a more recreational level is absolutely fine.

What I am saying is that any player currently playing at high 14U, 16U or 18U on a father run team that has aspirations of playing in college needs to re-evaluate their situation and get themselves on a team that:

1. Has Coaches that understand what it takes to train and expose your daughter to College level competition,
2. Has a reputation and track record of placing kids into College programs
3. Has developed relationships with College Coaches giving themselves credibility as a travel ball coach they can trust when discussing a possible recruit.

On LI there are a number of organization that have done exactly this, they are:

1. Team LI
2. LI Chargers
3. Sudden Impact
4. LI Express
5. LI Ducks
6. LI Bandits
7. LI Hurricanes
8. Team Nitro
9. LI Anthem
10. LI Pride
11. Frozen Ropes

So my recommendation to any player looking to play in college is to find yourselves a spot on one of these teams to give you the best chance of finding the right college for them.


First team on the list, LI Chargers. Check their webpage, they had 3 girls commit to any college for 2013 class. Farmingdale and 2 Suny schools. They must have great experience to get 3 girls out of all of their girls in any college playing softball. Let me jump ship now, have my daughter leave her current team and the good experience she is having now to play with the Chargers so my daughter can play softball at Farmingdale.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/27/14 12:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Fastpitch Junkie
Well, I can not guarantee that this is the last year for Daddy-ball teams that you have listed. I am sure that there are several that will continue on especially for kids that don't have high aspirations of taking their game to the college level. So staying where they are to continue to enjoy the game at a more recreational level is absolutely fine.

What I am saying is that any player currently playing at high 14U, 16U or 18U on a father run team that has aspirations of playing in college needs to re-evaluate their situation and get themselves on a team that:

1. Has Coaches that understand what it takes to train and expose your daughter to College level competition,
2. Has a reputation and track record of placing kids into College programs
3. Has developed relationships with College Coaches giving themselves credibility as a travel ball coach they can trust when discussing a possible recruit.

On LI there are a number of organization that have done exactly this, they are:

1. Team LI
2. LI Chargers
3. Sudden Impact
4. LI Express
5. LI Ducks
6. LI Bandits
7. LI Hurricanes
8. Team Nitro
9. LI Anthem
10. LI Pride
11. Frozen Ropes

So my recommendation to any player looking to play in college is to find yourselves a spot on one of these teams to give you the best chance of finding the right college for them.


First team on the list, LI Chargers. Check their webpage, they had 3 girls commit to any college for 2013 class. Farmingdale and 2 Suny schools. They must have great experience to get 3 girls out of all of their girls in any college playing softball. Let me jump ship now, have my daughter leave her current team and the good experience she is having now to play with the Chargers so my daughter can play softball at Farmingdale.


Pretty funny.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/27/14 08:05 PM

You can't really judge an organization on just one year. All teams have players with different talent levels which translates into what division they will play in college. The Chargers had 3 2013 seniors on the team. They all went to D3 schools. Good for them. The 2012 team had 3 girls go D1, 1 D2 and 2 D3. The current 2014 team has a mix of all three divisions. For all the teams on the list its different every year. Some years the talent is senior heavy while other years its the younger girls. You have to judge organizations over a longer period of time.
So I guess what your thinking is if a college basketball team had three number 1 draft picks one year and none the next you wouldn't send your kid to that school. Interesting
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/27/14 09:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
You can't really judge an organization on just one year. All teams have players with different talent levels which translates into what division they will play in college. The Chargers had 3 2013 seniors on the team. They all went to D3 schools. Good for them. The 2012 team had 3 girls go D1, 1 D2 and 2 D3. The current 2014 team has a mix of all three divisions. For all the teams on the list its different every year. Some years the talent is senior heavy while other years its the younger girls. You have to judge organizations over a longer period of time.
So I guess what your thinking is if a college basketball team had three number 1 draft picks one year and none the next you wouldn't send your kid to that school. Interesting


The point is that there are plenty of 16-18u teams around that have plenty of talented girls that are happy playing and not looking for an "organization". These girls might or might not continue to play in college, but just moving to an organization in order to have a "name" on their college application will not benefit most of these kids. Getting good grades, showing leadership and passion are what most colleges are looking for. Sure top D1 players (very few on LI) need the exposure at the top showcases that TLI etc. can give them, but the vast majority should stay/play where they are happy.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/28/14 09:07 AM

or some organizations are changing, some are becoming watered down and there are newer ones that could enter into the conversations because of their talent and newly formed connections.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/28/14 10:30 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
You can't really judge an organization on just one year. All teams have players with different talent levels which translates into what division they will play in college. The Chargers had 3 2013 seniors on the team. They all went to D3 schools. Good for them. The 2012 team had 3 girls go D1, 1 D2 and 2 D3. The current 2014 team has a mix of all three divisions. For all the teams on the list its different every year. Some years the talent is senior heavy while other years its the younger girls. You have to judge organizations over a longer period of time.
So I guess what your thinking is if a college basketball team had three number 1 draft picks one year and none the next you wouldn't send your kid to that school. Interesting


Exactly the point! Your daughter is not going to the Chargers and getting a scholarship or even playing in college if she is not good enough. A high level 9th grader from upstate NY recently committed to a D1 college, she has been on several teams and none of them are the reason she is playing D1, of course combined they gave her opportunity but you can get there anywhere. She is very good because she loves to play softball and her parents are committed(lessons, clinics, travel, etc). Find a coach who treats your daughter well and knows what he is doing. If she is good enough she will have opportunities.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/01/14 09:48 PM

How can a 9th grader committ to D1? I thought they can't even talk to them yet?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/02/14 04:49 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
How can a 9th grader committ to D1? I thought they can't even talk to them yet?


The NCAA is not enforcing their own recruitment rules. Their was a recent article in the NYT about girls committing to 4 year college scholarships to play soccer and then preparing to enter the 9th grade.

Below is a link to a 2/9/2014 radio broadcast of which discusses Is it Right for College Soccer Coaches to Actively Recruit Middle School Girls with Athletic Scholarships?

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/audio-on-demand/rick-wolff-the-sports-edge/#
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/02/14 10:17 AM

Yes, an exceptional player will be able to be able to have a coach look at them anywhere but the good player may need to be seen by many coaches before a fit is found. The more "known" travel teams usually get the better field assignments and game times. This increases the chances of being seen by a coach. Coaches want to maximize their time while at tournament . They do this by spending a majority of their time at main complexes of showcases.
Posted by: Fastpitch Junkie

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/03/14 08:10 AM

The 9th Grade commitment referred to in a previous thread is called a 'Verbal'. These are non binding 'hand shakes' between a Player and a Coach. You ask how can this happen when NCAA rules do not allow a Coach to recruit before your Senior year, well this has become the loophole way in which it does happen.

Understand that when on campus, what is discussed between a player and a coach can only be policed so far, usually the sky's the limit in what is discussed behind closed doors. So the way a verbal usually works is that when on campus for either a clinic or unofficial visit, the coach tells a 9th grader that they really like what they have seen and would love the opportunity to sign that player their senior year. The Coach then tells them that they will be able to offer them X amount in a scholarship when the time comes. That player then turns around and says that this school has been a childhood dream and that they will 'Verbally' commit to playing at the school, so they hand shake on it.

Understand that nothing was ever signed, no 'official' offer was ever made, so there is no binding documents that can be legally used against this hand shake. Also understand that since nothing is binding either side can recant the Verbal. The Player can get a better offer somewhere else, or the coach decides to move to a different college, then the Verbal might not be honored by the next coach coming in.

What it does do is allow the coach to continue recruiting for other needs, so if the player was a Pitcher, now the coach can focus on recruiting the other 4 potion players they are looking to fill out their recruiting year.

Verbals usually happen with elite players only and at the top end of Division 1, especially at the 9 and 10th grade levels. D2 schools might get some Verbals with players during their Junior year.

So don't panic if you see or hear of a kid verbaling before 11th grade, they are far and few between. Most players from LI will get signed to a D2 or D3 program in their Senior season as those school are usually only recruiting 1 year in advance, meaning, during a players Summer and Fall of their Senior year.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/03/14 09:01 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
How can a 9th grader committ to D1? I thought they can't even talk to them yet?


9th grader can contact the college coach and talk, college coach can not contact until after sophmore year in HS
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/07/14 07:13 AM

The best 14u team is the one that actually helps to develop a player for the next level. Any team can have tryouts to put together a quasi all star team and win tournaments. Give me a coach staff and organizational that actually takes the time to enhance and develop the players talents and I will gladly pay for that. Of course winning a long the way is great....but I value developing 14 year olds over a shiny medal at this age for sure.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/07/14 08:01 PM

United States has nothing I've seen compared to Sal Agonostelli's Dominican Experience. Consistent 90 plus, plus hooks that look 90 and bend knees..If you want to test your metal..Das It!
Posted by: Lady Ducks

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/07/14 08:45 PM

I agree 100%. We as coaches must never forget what brought us to this point. For me its helping kids! It has always been about the kids, soon as you forget that, hang up your coaching hat!
Coach Keith
Lady Ducks 14u
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/09/14 11:30 AM

there is plenty of great baseball players down south in USA. MLB had to invest in latin america because of feedback from liberal bullshit USA baseball players will be joining the mlb in greater numbers soon and we will see better baseball
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/10/14 09:11 AM

I'd say for most 9th graders on long island they probably should be more focused on learning how to play the game and improving than contacting college coaches. the few that are at the level of playing D1 obviously its a different story. But for 99% of parents reading this, they should more be concerned about their kid playing softball for the love of it and stop worrying about college.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/10/14 03:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I'd say for most 9th graders on long island they probably should be more focused on learning how to play the game and improving than contacting college coaches. the few that are at the level of playing D1 obviously its a different story. But for 99% of parents reading this, they should more be concerned about their kid playing softball for the love of it and stop worrying about college.


The time for learning how to play the game is way before HS age. If they don't get it by that time its time to switch to LAX. LOL
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/12/14 10:06 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I'd say for most 9th graders on long island they probably should be more focused on learning how to play the game and improving than contacting college coaches. the few that are at the level of playing D1 obviously its a different story. But for 99% of parents reading this, they should more be concerned about their kid playing softball for the love of it and stop worrying about college.


The time for learning how to play the game is way before HS age. If they don't get it by that time its time to switch to LAX. LOL
OMG so true. Our son has loved this game since 5 years old. As he developed as a player we put him in more competitive situations and teams. How many parents would say things like "Wish we had that kid of money" or "My son's too sensitive for that kind of coaching" - Money is NOT what we have and those un sensitive coaches helped him to be a stronger, more mature player. It is vital and essential IF a child has any kind of talent if it be sports or flute playing, that you nurture it and see where it goes.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/14/14 09:23 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I'd say for most 9th graders on long island they probably should be more focused on learning how to play the game and improving than contacting college coaches. the few that are at the level of playing D1 obviously its a different story. But for 99% of parents reading this, they should more be concerned about their kid playing softball for the love of it and stop worrying about college.


The time for learning how to play the game is way before HS age. If they don't get it by that time its time to switch to LAX. LOL


Yes. I agree. If they are playing it as a means to go to college, if they don't have the skills before HS, it is likely they won't be playing after HS. I'm not saying they have to be D1 ready as a freshman, but those who are going to play in college are typically your standouts as freshman. And even out of those standouts maybe 1 in 4 can actually play in college.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/15/14 10:52 AM

What a ridiculous statement. I can name you player after player who did not stand out as a freshman and went on the play D-1 baseball.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/15/14 11:58 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I'd say for most 9th graders on long island they probably should be more focused on learning how to play the game and improving than contacting college coaches. the few that are at the level of playing D1 obviously its a different story. But for 99% of parents reading this, they should more be concerned about their kid playing softball for the love of it and stop worrying about college.


The time for learning how to play the game is way before HS age. If they don't get it by that time its time to switch to LAX. LOL


Yes. I agree. If they are playing it as a means to go to college, if they don't have the skills before HS, it is likely they won't be playing after HS. I'm not saying they have to be D1 ready as a freshman, but those who are going to play in college are typically your standouts as freshman. And even out of those standouts maybe 1 in 4 can actually play in college.
Spot on!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/31/14 01:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What a ridiculous statement. I can name you player after player who did not stand out as a freshman and went on the play D-1 baseball.


Baseball is different from softball. Boys develop later than girls. It is unlikely for a girl to grow a foot after their freshman years like some boys do.

Softball is a skill sport. If they don't have a high level of softball skill attainment by freshman year, they are likely not a D1 prospect.

Most competitive D1 schools are done with recruiting by the end of most sophomore years. If you aren't on that radar by the end of your sophomore year, you are not going to a big D1. Most D1 schools are completely done with 2015 grads already. This summer/fall they will be looking at 2016/2017/2018 grads. D2/D3 are a little later.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/06/14 02:00 PM

So baseball heaven takes down the batting cages outside and makes you pay for the indoor cages for league ball/tournaments .....so NOT cool
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/07/14 05:48 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
So baseball heaven takes down the batting cages outside and makes you pay for the indoor cages for league ball/tournaments .....so NOT cool


I have never seen the batting cages up before April at B B H. Ever think the weather might have kept them from going up. And what do you expect them to do with a 2 million dollar building. Should they just let you in so you can trash the place.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/08/14 05:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
So baseball heaven takes down the batting cages outside and makes you pay for the indoor cages for league ball/tournaments .....so NOT cool


I have never seen the batting cages up before April at B B H. Ever think the weather might have kept them from going up. And what do you expect them to do with a 2 million dollar building. Should they just let you in so you can trash the place.




If you can cash the check to play the tournament,then you should have the batting cages out & the awnings out for the spectators. If you dont have the cages outside then you should allow teams inside to hit for free.

That is the cost of doing business. Dont want to hear that the weather will damage the nets. They are made to be outside. After all, you had the kids out there until 10:30pm with it 38 degrees & raining. Are the nets and awnings more important than your customers???
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/09/14 06:33 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
So baseball heaven takes down the batting cages outside and makes you pay for the indoor cages for league ball/tournaments .....so NOT cool


I have never seen the batting cages up before April at B B H. Ever think the weather might have kept them from going up. And what do you expect them to do with a 2 million dollar building. Should they just let you in so you can trash the place.




If you can cash the check to play the tournament,then you should have the batting cages out & the awnings out for the spectators. If you dont have the cages outside then you should allow teams inside to hit for free.

That is the cost of doing business. Dont want to hear that the weather will damage the nets. They are made to be outside. After all, you had the kids out there until 10:30pm with it 38 degrees & raining. Are the nets and awnings more important than your customers???


In all the years I have been going, I too have never seen the nets up before April. Relax there fella, it was a bad winter. Besides, you are probably one of those who takes the cages for an hour, not allowing anyone else in. I was in a tournament last weekend, with no bathrooms, no concessions, no cages & no shade. Stop your crying or just don't go there.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/09/14 09:10 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
So baseball heaven takes down the batting cages outside and makes you pay for the indoor cages for league ball/tournaments .....so NOT cool


I have never seen the batting cages up before April at B B H. Ever think the weather might have kept them from going up. And what do you expect them to do with a 2 million dollar building. Should they just let you in so you can trash the place.




If you can cash the check to play the tournament,then you should have the batting cages out & the awnings out for the spectators. If you dont have the cages outside then you should allow teams inside to hit for free.

That is the cost of doing business. Dont want to hear that the weather will damage the nets. They are made to be outside. After all, you had the kids out there until 10:30pm with it 38 degrees & raining. Are the nets and awnings more important than your customers???






Perfectly said!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/09/14 02:01 PM

The LI Ducks have a number of Daddy Ball Teams now because they can't retain or recruite their own players so they keep joining forces with other team that come with Daddy coaches.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/09/14 02:05 PM

Baseball Heaven only see $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ from not allowing players in with a cooler, to charging parents to watch their kids play after they've paid their teams for the tournament. Did you really think they were going to allow you to bat for free anymore. They need to make triple back what it cost to build the building in their first year. At least they put in new seats after half of them were broken. Now lets get those score boards fixed and then the facility might live up to its name.
Posted by: Anonymous

14u softball - 04/09/14 06:14 PM

staten island 14u pony tournament this weekend! Saints/north jersey rocks,akadema elite,crush will be some of the teams participating.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: 14u softball - 04/11/14 05:46 AM

Go CRUSH!!!

JUST WIN BABY!!!!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/11/14 07:46 AM

was terrible to see them tell our 12 year old boys playing in their league at 800pm on a rainy cold(38) friday night it was 50 dollars for a half hour to hit inside….. what a joke…. no problem cashing our league fee check….
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/11/14 01:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
The LI Ducks have a number of Daddy Ball Teams now because they can't retain or recruite their own players so they keep joining forces with other team that come with Daddy coaches.
you have no idea what your talking about
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: 14u softball - 04/11/14 10:00 PM

goooo crush!!! prediction... crush to win it all!!!!!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: 14u softball - 04/13/14 12:53 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
goooo crush!!! prediction... crush to win it all!!!!!


Fundamentally Coach-less softball at its finest!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/13/14 06:20 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
was terrible to see them tell our 12 year old boys playing in their league at 800pm on a rainy cold(38) friday night it was 50 dollars for a half hour to hit inside….. what a joke…. no problem cashing our league fee check….

iTS $20 TO HIT NOT $50. STOP
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/13/14 09:34 AM

LI Crush, NJ Pride and RI Thunder Gold 14u teams all went 3-0 yesterday at The Rock. Team LI and EC Bombers etc are in it too. Today will be interesting!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/13/14 12:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Baseball Heaven only see $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ from not allowing players in with a cooler, to charging parents to watch their kids play after they've paid their teams for the tournament. Did you really think they were going to allow you to bat for free anymore. They need to make triple back what it cost to build the building in their first year. At least they put in new seats after half of them were broken. Now lets get those score boards fixed and then the facility might live up to its name.
Parents pay a fee at EVERY National Tournament facility across the USA (besides the instal cost per child to play)if you are going broke paying an additional $5.00 then maybe you shouldn't be spending the money at all. Right or wrong it is what it is. You are not changing it
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/14/14 06:45 AM

The rock was a 12u tournament. No 14u teams were in it.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/14/14 08:07 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
LI Crush, NJ Pride and RI Thunder Gold 14u teams all went 3-0 yesterday at The Rock. Team LI and EC Bombers etc are in it too. Today will be interesting!

It's not what you do on Saturday, it's all about Sunday!

RI Thunder beat TLI 02 in the finals 9 to 6. TLI 02 was only 1 & 2 after Saturday, had to play 2 extra games before playing teams like Crush 01 and Miss Shen to get to the finals. Crush got a bye and lost their first game on Sunday. So much for going 3 & 0 on Saturday.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/14/14 08:58 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Baseball Heaven only see $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ from not allowing players in with a cooler, to charging parents to watch their kids play after they've paid their teams for the tournament. Did you really think they were going to allow you to bat for free anymore. They need to make triple back what it cost to build the building in their first year. At least they put in new seats after half of them were broken. Now lets get those score boards fixed and then the facility might live up to its name.
Parents pay a fee at EVERY National Tournament facility across the USA (besides the instal cost per child to play)if you are going broke paying an additional $5.00 then maybe you shouldn't be spending the money at all. Right or wrong it is what it is. You are not changing it
we didn't get charged to hit indoors at diamond nation
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/14/14 02:47 PM

What happened to the LI breakers organization the guy who ran that used to tout it as the only organization on LI that was worth while to play for?

Also,what's the word on the LI prospects the owner is an assistant at Farmingdale College.

They any good.

Son turning 14 next year looking for some input.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/14/14 04:33 PM

I was wondering why only 2 of the 4 nets were up in the batting cages.... Then I saw the big sign that says "Batting Cages". Unbelievable .....
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/14/14 10:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I was wondering why only 2 of the 4 nets were up in the batting cages.... Then I saw the big sign that says "Batting Cages". Unbelievable .....

Yea, god forbid a business makes money when little Johnny is involved
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/14/14 11:09 PM

TLI 02' played 5 games sunday. After sleepwalking saturday evening they showed why they are a team that knows how to win.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/15/14 04:26 AM

The batting cage area is getting extended with new turf, that's why two cages were up. All you have to do is ask them like I did. But all of you just assume things.

The area is getting expanded for the National TV event and will be used as a staging and vendor station, throughout the National Event..

How would you expect them to to control the flow of traffic in a building. If it weren't like that, it would be a free for all. Again, all you had to do is ask them, like we did.

And BTW, last time I went to DN, they charged me to hit indoors..
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/15/14 09:57 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Baseball Heaven only see $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ from not allowing players in with a cooler, to charging parents to watch their kids play after they've paid their teams for the tournament. Did you really think they were going to allow you to bat for free anymore. They need to make triple back what it cost to build the building in their first year. At least they put in new seats after half of them were broken. Now lets get those score boards fixed and then the facility might live up to its name.
Parents pay a fee at EVERY National Tournament facility across the USA (besides the instal cost per child to play)if you are going broke paying an additional $5.00 then maybe you shouldn't be spending the money at all. Right or wrong it is what it is. You are not changing it
we didn't get charged to hit indoors at diamond nation
True, but I am only speaking of the entry fee. For tournaments [***censored***] Best allow teams in or they will loose customers in long run
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/15/14 09:59 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
The batting cage area is getting extended with new turf, that's why two cages were up. All you have to do is ask them like I did. But all of you just assume things.

The area is getting expanded for the National TV event and will be used as a staging and vendor station, throughout the National Event..

How would you expect them to to control the flow of traffic in a building. If it weren't like that, it would be a free for all. Again, all you had to do is ask them, like we did.

And BTW, last time I went to DN, they charged me to hit indoors..
I was at Diamond Nation on 8/2 No Charge for teams to use batting cages.. Doubtful you've been there yet this year.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/15/14 05:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Baseball Heaven only see $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ from not allowing players in with a cooler, to charging parents to watch their kids play after they've paid their teams for the tournament. Did you really think they were going to allow you to bat for free anymore. They need to make triple back what it cost to build the building in their first year. At least they put in new seats after half of them were broken. Now lets get those score boards fixed and then the facility might live up to its name.
Parents pay a fee at EVERY National Tournament facility across the USA (besides the instal cost per child to play)if you are going broke paying an additional $5.00 then maybe you shouldn't be spending the money at all. Right or wrong it is what it is. You are not changing it
we didn't get charged to hit indoors at diamond nation
True, but I am only speaking of the entry fee. For tournaments [***censored***] Best allow teams in or they will loose customers in long run


Every facility charges admission. In fact all others charge for kids over 12. B B H charges 18 and over.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/16/14 11:01 AM

The batting cage area is getting extended with new turf, that's why two cages were up. All you have to do is ask them like I did. But all of you just assume things.

The area is getting expanded for the National TV event and will be used as a staging and vendor station, throughout the National Event..

How would you expect them to to control the flow of traffic in a building. If it weren't like that, it would be a free for all. Again, all you had to do is ask them, like we did.

And BTW, last time I went to DN, they charged me to hit indoors..


=================================

And who are you???
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/16/14 11:33 AM

Have to give Team LI so much credit for what they did on Sunday at The Rock.

5 games, and still making it a game vs. a really good RI team. Congrats.

Looking forward to watching your girls and ours play again.

GL
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/22/14 07:55 PM

The event is 4 months away. Put up the other two nets!!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/31/14 09:15 AM

TLI does not really give you as much exposure as you would think. they are good on LI, NY area. But have no reach outside our area. Just look at the schools the players are being recruited to.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/31/14 08:43 PM

Yeah OK let's look at the schools TLI kids play at
Syracuse,North Carolina, Michigan, Hofstra, UMass,
Stony brook,
Enough said
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/03/14 06:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Yeah OK let's look at the schools TLI kids play at
Syracuse,North Carolina, Michigan, Hofstra, UMass,
Stony brook,
Enough said


Syracuse, Michigan and North Carolina were not because of playing for TLI. They simply don't have the juice for that. Probably Hofstra, Umass or Stony Brook though.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/03/14 06:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Yeah OK let's look at the schools TLI kids play at
Syracuse,North Carolina, Michigan, Hofstra, UMass,
Stony brook,
Enough said


lOl. ok. i'd say hofstra and stony brook is where TLI goes. but if you do a little research, those other players to BIG 10 or ACC got recruited through outside teams or their own efforts. not from playing with TLI.

TLI is still one of the best on LI. They still won't get those few talented players some of the high level softball programs... yet. They can do it eventually... just isn't there yet though.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/04/14 01:54 PM

ok. lets be realistic here. there's really only a small group of of kids in probably all of NY much less in long island that can really play in a top softball conference (SEC,Big 10, ACC, etc). for those kids, they need to go to national type showcase teams ie RI thunder, nj intensity, nj inferno, rock gold-waye etc. to get seen by those top schools. those travel coaches have relationships with those college coaches and are feed kids to these programs. The rest of the top players can stay in an org like TLI which is more suited toward the less competitive athletic conferences and still the standard on LI and get seen by colleges.

a good way to check is to see what showcases these top 18u teams play in. you can see who the best teams are for getting top talent recruited by what fields they are on and who they play.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/04/14 02:18 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Yeah OK let's look at the schools TLI kids play at
Syracuse,North Carolina, Michigan, Hofstra, UMass,
Stony brook,
Enough said


Syracuse, Michigan and North Carolina were not because of playing for TLI. They simply don't have the juice for that. Probably Hofstra, Umass or Stony Brook though.



give it a rest. TLI is the best. stop hatin and go back to Xtreme or crush or FR or whatever.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/04/14 09:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Yeah OK let's look at the schools TLI kids play at
Syracuse,North Carolina, Michigan, Hofstra, UMass,
Stony brook,
Enough said


lOl. ok. i'd say hofstra and stony brook is where TLI goes. but if you do a little research, those other players to BIG 10 or ACC got recruited through outside teams or their own efforts. not from playing with TLI.

TLI is still one of the best on LI. They still won't get those few talented players some of the high level softball programs... yet. They can do it eventually... just isn't there yet though.


ok mr or mrs know it all. whatevs.
Posted by: Fastpitch Junkie

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/05/14 06:59 AM

Outside of the Michigan kid, it was kids playing on TLI who got placed at Syracuse (2 in fact when they were on TLI Elite and not Gold at the time), UMass, North Carolina & Old Miss. All of these were seen and recruited when playing for TLI.

That being said, there is only a handful of D1 talent that comes out of LI or NY State for that matter. Majority of the kids that come from LI are D2 & D3 kids and there is nothing wrong with that. Their money is just as good and plenty to be had but its up to the player. The organization for which you play for can only assist you but it still comes down to your DD.

To play for organizations such as the RI Thunder, NJ Intensity, NJ Inferno, Rock Gold, TNT, etc is a very costly proposition and one that requires a lot of traveling. Be prepared to pay upwards of $5K for a year, then add in your travel expense to go watch them as well. Don't forget to includes driving (Gas, Tolls) each weekend to their practices during the off season. When Olivia, Bella, Lindsay did it, they would need a whole Saturday between travel and practice.

So unless your daughter can throw 63+ MPH or Hit like animal, you need to ask yourself will you/she be rewarded enough to pay for the time and expense. That is a decision you will have to make, if your DD is even offered a spot on such a team.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/07/14 03:29 PM

Fastpitch Junkie hit it on the head.

"So unless your daughter can throw 63+ MPH or Hit like animal, you need to ask yourself will you/she be rewarded enough to pay for the time and expense. That is a decision you will have to make, if your DD is even offered a spot on such a team."
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/11/14 11:34 AM

if your daughter has talent and has aspirations in college find yourself an organization after 14u that will help that. Good luck!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/13/14 10:11 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
if your daughter has talent and has aspirations in college find yourself an organization after 14u that will help that. Good luck!


You don't really have a clue do you. The player is what gets noticed. Not the organization. If my daughter is good enough she will get seen playing for any team.
Posted by: Fastpitch Junkie

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/14/14 09:47 AM

Sorry but I am going to push back a bit on that last statement about the team/organization that you play for does not matter. I have seen this from both sides several times over and can honestly say that the organization that you play for will definitely open doors and coaches minds to you as a recruit. College coaches have said to me that when they are contacted by a potential recruit one of the very first validation checks (other than grades of course) that they as a coach perform is to see what team/organization you play for. Right away this provides a college coach a sense of potential talent for that kid. Not saying the player on a lesser know team is not good, but college coaches know that if you have made a team that is known to them and that plays the type of schedule and teams that they recruit from then immediately you are a potential candidate without the coach even taking one peak at you.

For the kids that are on a less know organization, they have to work twice as hard to get the looks. That does not mean that it will not happen, but since each college coach is looking to recruit 4 or 5 players a year and probably only 1 from the position that your DD plays, the competition is fierce. So you want the looks from a coach as early as possible. To ensure that a college does not commit out all of the potential scholarship money it has at its disposal even before seeing your DD.

So for those on lesser known team/organization, you need to be all over the recruiting process. You need to be extremely proactive and constantly writing to coaches, getting yourself in front of them at their clinics, probably even making a skills video just to get them to take that initial look. The validation process for this kid is a lot more difficult than for a kid that is playing on a know team with a reputation of placing kids into college.

In the end, it comes down to what your DD aspirations are to play college softball and what type of school they want to attend. If they are not interested in any specific school, then playing for any team will eventually get you some offers, but from most likely a D3 colleges that are less known where they can possibly throw some academic money your way, providing your DD has the grades for it.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/15/14 12:02 AM

Originally Posted By: Fastpitch Junkie
Sorry but I am going to push back a bit on that last statement about the team/organization that you play for does not matter. I have seen this from both sides several times over and can honestly say that the organization that you play for will definitely open doors and coaches minds to you as a recruit. College coaches have said to me that when they are contacted by a potential recruit one of the very first validation checks (other than grades of course) that they as a coach perform is to see what team/organization you play for. Right away this provides a college coach a sense of potential talent for that kid. Not saying the player on a lesser know team is not good, but college coaches know that if you have made a team that is known to them and that plays the type of schedule and teams that they recruit from then immediately you are a potential candidate without the coach even taking one peak at you.

For the kids that are on a less know organization, they have to work twice as hard to get the looks. That does not mean that it will not happen, but since each college coach is looking to recruit 4 or 5 players a year and probably only 1 from the position that your DD plays, the competition is fierce. So you want the looks from a coach as early as possible. To ensure that a college does not commit out all of the potential scholarship money it has at its disposal even before seeing your DD.

So for those on lesser known team/organization, you need to be all over the recruiting process. You need to be extremely proactive and constantly writing to coaches, getting yourself in front of them at their clinics, probably even making a skills video just to get them to take that initial look. The validation process for this kid is a lot more difficult than for a kid that is playing on a know team with a reputation of placing kids into college.

In the end, it comes down to what your DD aspirations are to play college softball and what type of school they want to attend. If they are not interested in any specific school, then playing for any team will eventually get you some offers, but from most likely a D3 colleges that are less known where they can possibly throw some academic money your way, providing your DD has the grades for it.



Spoken like a true TLI parent as you are "Fastpitch Junkie"
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/15/14 06:45 AM

So you mean to tell me if a coach sees a stud playing for a lesser known team they are going to pass? Ha. Stupid. There goes your theory.
Posted by: Fastpitch Junkie

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/15/14 08:42 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Fastpitch Junkie
Sorry but I am going to push back a bit on that last statement about the team/organization that you play for does not matter. I have seen this from both sides several times over and can honestly say that the organization that you play for will definitely open doors and coaches minds to you as a recruit. College coaches have said to me that when they are contacted by a potential recruit one of the very first validation checks (other than grades of course) that they as a coach perform is to see what team/organization you play for. Right away this provides a college coach a sense of potential talent for that kid. Not saying the player on a lesser know team is not good, but college coaches know that if you have made a team that is known to them and that plays the type of schedule and teams that they recruit from then immediately you are a potential candidate without the coach even taking one peak at you.

For the kids that are on a less know organization, they have to work twice as hard to get the looks. That does not mean that it will not happen, but since each college coach is looking to recruit 4 or 5 players a year and probably only 1 from the position that your DD plays, the competition is fierce. So you want the looks from a coach as early as possible. To ensure that a college does not commit out all of the potential scholarship money it has at its disposal even before seeing your DD.

So for those on lesser known team/organization, you need to be all over the recruiting process. You need to be extremely proactive and constantly writing to coaches, getting yourself in front of them at their clinics, probably even making a skills video just to get them to take that initial look. The validation process for this kid is a lot more difficult than for a kid that is playing on a know team with a reputation of placing kids into college.

In the end, it comes down to what your DD aspirations are to play college softball and what type of school they want to attend. If they are not interested in any specific school, then playing for any team will eventually get you some offers, but from most likely a D3 colleges that are less known where they can possibly throw some academic money your way, providing your DD has the grades for it.



Spoken like a true TLI parent as you are "Fastpitch Junkie"

Actually, I am talking to you as a coach that has gone through the process with players and no I am not nor ever was a coach for TLI.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/15/14 09:57 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
if your daughter has talent and has aspirations in college find yourself an organization after 14u that will help that. Good luck!


You don't really have a clue do you. The player is what gets noticed. Not the organization. If my daughter is good enough she will get seen playing for any team.


you are right. it is the player. i will concede that there are organizations that will absolutely get a player more recognition (TLI) and some that try to tell you they do but dont (FR), but if your a player you'll get your props.

but beware of what some of these organizations will try to sell you to get you to play for them, that they have hooks (yeah to all the suny schools), we have been watching you (yeah we see you have a job and can afford to pay us), you'll never get noticed (except when you beat them).

these organizations have a place. but they are a business and they need players that will pay more money and they need to sell you on the value (whatever that is) of there organizations.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/15/14 10:02 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous


Spoken like a true TLI parent as you are "Fastpitch Junkie"


Not sure if its TLI but an informed one for sure.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/16/14 07:29 AM

Thanks for insight Fastpitch junkie. So what 3 teams in your opinion have the best chance at D1 exposure?
Posted by: Fastpitch Junkie

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/16/14 08:10 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
So you mean to tell me if a coach sees a stud playing for a lesser known team they are going to pass? Ha. Stupid. There goes your theory.

Have you ever been to a showcase tourney? I am talking about the ones that actually draw college coaches and not the ones that call themselves a showcase, yet you never see a coaches that because if they go, they go and see a specific player for one game then leave, they don’t stand around.

So for those that have not been to real showcases, the ones that draw coaches that stay for several days, understand that there are 30, 40, 50 teams and 100's of players. Studs on every team so for a coach they usually are not just sitting around watching just any game. They go to showcases with a very specific agenda, they go and watch kids that they know is interested in them and that they believe can kit their program.

And in the off chance they happen to see a stud on a specific team its b/c they are watching your game for probably another kid. But they have to be watching and the chances are slim unless they are there for a reason. Then they have to find out: 1. Does the kid have the grades?, 2. Is the kind not yet committed? , 3. Does the kid even want to go to my school? , 4. Do we offer that kid the academic program they want to study, or the locale they prefer, etc? 5. Can they fit in my program, etc. So for most coaches they prefer to stick with kids that are known entities to them.

Also understand at these big showcases, games are played at several complexes. The TD puts a schedule together that ensures that quality teams play against each other. They do not want to play a Gold team from a known organization against just any 18U team. So the team you play on gives you the best shot because you will have a better chance at being at the main complex. Lesser known teams do not get the same schedule because they are playing lesser known teams. College coaches will not (if they are even at your complex) just sit down and watch such a game. They just don’t have the time nor the desire to try and find a diamond in the rough, not when they have 100’s of potential players they know are interested in them and who they have been following.

So the coach finding the kid is very rare as the odds are against that happening. I for one never believed in chance or luck, the good players put themselves in a position for luck to occur. Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity and that is what is needed to successfully be recruited.
Posted by: admin

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/16/14 04:25 PM

Well said, Fastpitch Junkie.

Its the same in the travel baseball circuit and in AAU basketball.

The kid has to be in the right place at the right time. If someone hits well against a pitcher who a coach is there watching, that can set things in motion.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/17/14 10:55 AM

Can anyone recommend a good android app to keep the scorebook?
Seems like iscore and game changer are both good.
Thanks.
Posted by: Fastpitch Junkie

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/17/14 08:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Thanks for insight Fastpitch junkie. So what 3 teams in your opinion have the best chance at D1 exposure?


That all depends on the talent of your DD and the willingness to travel.

D1 is a very difficult recruitment. You need to be playing on a team that can get you the exposure to those types of coaches. In the Northeast, there are a handful and they include off the top of my head and in no particular order:

- Rhode Island Thunder
- Rock Gold
- TNT
- Team LI
- NJ Inferno
- Conklin Raiders
- NJ Intensity

But you need to be a stud to make one of these teams.

If you are referring to more LI based teams, there are very few that could possible place a kid into D1 programs. I would give the LI Chargers the nod after TLI with the LI Express and Sudden Imapact after them. But for these including TLI, their sweet spot is D2 and D3.

Just look at the commitment pages of the LI based teams versus those others that I mentioned above that are not LI based. We will quickly come to understand exactly where the LI based teams fall out.

But as I always say this is not a knock on any organization, it is where they have and continue to be successful at in the recruiting process.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/19/14 10:38 AM

Let's not forget, as no one has mentioned this yet.....
Let's say..... Lil Debbie is offered a full ride to St. Johns, but, she wants to enter a nursing program, and St J doesn't offer that. What are you going to do? Make her change her career choice? Let's not forget, after college, for 99.9999 % of them, fastpitch is done.


Keep pumping those 529 plans folks.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/19/14 02:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Let's not forget, as no one has mentioned this yet.....
Let's say..... Lil Debbie is offered a full ride to St. Johns, but, she wants to enter a nursing program, and St J doesn't offer that. What are you going to do? Make her change her career choice? Let's not forget, after college, for 99.9999 % of them, fastpitch is done.


Keep pumping those 529 plans folks.




no noo noooooooo !

Lil Debbie has to play softball. years of lessons that i paid for. traveling to useless tournaments. i told my neighbors how good Debbie is. bye bye st johns hello dowling.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/20/14 10:06 AM

I don't understand why people get so offended when there is discussion about what travel organizations give the best opportunity to play D1. If that isn't what interests your child then that is fine. Fastpitch junkie has a wealth of knowledge and is helpful to those who may want it.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/20/14 02:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Fastpitch Junkie
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Thanks for insight Fastpitch junkie. So what 3 teams in your opinion have the best chance at D1 exposure?


That all depends on the talent of your DD and the willingness to travel.

D1 is a very difficult recruitment. You need to be playing on a team that can get you the exposure to those types of coaches. In the Northeast, there are a handful and they include off the top of my head and in no particular order:

- Rhode Island Thunder
- Rock Gold
- TNT
- Team LI
- NJ Inferno
- Conklin Raiders
- NJ Intensity

But you need to be a stud to make one of these teams.

If you are referring to more LI based teams, there are very few that could possible place a kid into D1 programs. I would give the LI Chargers the nod after TLI with the LI Express and Sudden Imapact after them. But for these including TLI, their sweet spot is D2 and D3.

Just look at the commitment pages of the LI based teams versus those others that I mentioned above that are not LI based. We will quickly come to understand exactly where the LI based teams fall out.

But as I always say this is not a knock on any organization, it is where they have and continue to be successful at in the recruiting process.


Truth...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/23/14 12:20 PM

here is an accurate list. the only two that can really place a kids in D1 are the first two on the list. Chargers can place one every once in a while as they did last season she went to Fordham. Bandits placed two kids this season at St Peter's that team is coached by Ken Passante leader of the Express who didn't pick up any kids off his own rosters. Chargers, Bandits and Express sweet spot is really D3
1) TLI
2)Sudden Impact
3) Chargers
4) Bandits
5) Express
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/23/14 08:03 PM

Boy that is a sad state of affairs, but the real truth about LI softball. Queens College, Post, NYIT, Plattsburgh, Skidmore, Molloy, Caldwell, Farmingdale, Cortland, Oneonta, Owsego, Adelphi, New Paltz, Fairfield, Post, Hofstra. That is where TLI, Sudden Impact, Chargers , Bandits and Express got your kids softball commitments. Not saying they are bad schools but they are not the juggernaut of the college softball world, so the question becomes to all these dads; do you really know your daughters level of softball? If those organizations are the best at getting softball commitments for your daughter, I'm not sure it mattes where you play. Those are the facts, I did not list all the schools.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/24/14 10:25 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Boy that is a sad state of affairs, but the real truth about LI softball. Queens College, Post, NYIT, Plattsburgh, Skidmore, Molloy, Caldwell, Farmingdale, Cortland, Oneonta, Owsego, Adelphi, New Paltz, Fairfield, Post, Hofstra. That is where TLI, Sudden Impact, Chargers , Bandits and Express got your kids softball commitments. Not saying they are bad schools but they are not the juggernaut of the college softball world, so the question becomes to all these dads; do you really know your daughters level of softball? If those organizations are the best at getting softball commitments for your daughter, I'm not sure it mattes where you play. Those are the facts, I did not list all the schools.


WELL SAID.
I MOSTLY AGREE, IF THOSE THEAMS ARE GETTING MY KID INTO PLATTSBURG, FARMINGDALE, ONEONTA, OSWEGO, NEW PALTZ, THEN I SHOULD DOUBLED DOWN ON HER MATH AND SCIENCE TUTORS AND NOT A PITCHING COACH. AGAIN NONE BEING BAD SCHOOLS BUT SHE PROBABLY COULD GET INTO THOSE SCHOOLS ON HERE OWN.
GOOD ADVICE, KNOW YOUR KIDS ABILITY, FIND OUT IF SHE REALLY WANTS TO PLAY. GET REAL.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/24/14 11:11 AM

Any advice for academically + athletically strong players who are looking to play for Ivy League schools. Thanks
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/24/14 05:49 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Any advice for academically + athletically strong players who are looking to play for Ivy League schools. Thanks



Contact the schools yourself, check out when they have camps and look at Riseball.com. They just had an honors cam
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/25/14 05:50 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Any advice for academically + athletically strong players who are looking to play for Ivy League schools. Thanks


If an Ivy League school is showing interest in you as an athlete they will tell you that they expect you to score a minimum of 27 or 28 on the ACT EXAM.

If I were you I would start studying and taking practice ACT exams with a goal of scoring 30 or more. You should definitely find a H******ton Learning Center near you and take a free ACT practice exam. I think you can take several practice exams for free without any obligation to signup for ACT tutoring. If you can afford to sign up for tutoring do so; If not then set up a self study timetable and stick to it until you score well enough to be an Ivy Leaguer.

The results from the practice exam(s) will highlight your academic strengths as well as weaknesses which will allow you to concentrate study sessions on academic areas that MUST improve. Also, keep your HS grades as high as you possibly can.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/25/14 06:10 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Any advice for academically + athletically strong players who are looking to play for Ivy League schools. Thanks


Yes. Dont let her read anything on here. Unless she is going to an "Ivy" to become a psychiatrist.
Posted by: Coach Caz

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/25/14 07:43 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Any advice for academically + athletically strong players who are looking to play for Ivy League schools. Thanks

Sure I have quite a bit as my DD recently went through exactly this.

Recruiting for Ivy League schools does not differ much from that of non Ivy leagues as far as what your DD needs to do (other than have really strong grades). The primary differences are the fact that for Ivy League school the recruiting process is much later in the cycle then that of all other schools and there is NO Academic or Athletic Scholarship money.

Ivy Leagues will only provide money to those based solely on Financial Needs Only. This means that if you report a family income of $65K or less a year, your DD can go to an Ivy League free of charge. From there, they scale down the financing as your income increases. Above $120K, you pay the full tuition in the low to mid $60’s with the possible exception of Cornell depending on if you attend the Private or Public side of the University.

As far as getting your DD known to these schools, you need to do much of the same to market her to these coaches as you would for any other. This includes the continuous writing of emails, attending their on-campus clinics, going to camps such as Rise Ball or the Northeast Academic Camp at Pennsbury. This is where you DD will get to meet and interact with the coaches of the colleges that hold high academic standards first and foremost.

Don’t just limit yourself to Ivy Leagues schools as there are many non-Ivy League schools that would also fall into this category such as Georgetown and Villanova at the D1 level, then there are the little Ivy’s as they are so called, such as Colgate, Tufts, Williams, Amherst, Wesleyan, etc. They are Division 3 schools but highly selective and very difficult to get into. Many of these also hold softball clinics throughout the year. So keep checking their websites to see when they will do them this winter.

The bottom line is to leverage your DD’s strong grades and her ability to play softball to get her into a school that otherwise she might not have been accepted into on grades alone.

Post any other questions you might have and I will be happy to answer, or feel free to email me at coachcaz@outlook.com to discuss further if you prefer.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/25/14 12:18 PM

Yes, throw it harder, hit it further, run faster, improve your grades.

NOT being sarcastic. Just keep getting better then it works. No shortcuts or secret sauce.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/25/14 03:14 PM

Thanks Coach Caz!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/28/14 07:54 AM

According to Newsdays LI College commitments for softball for 2014 graduates there were 55 total college commitments. Only 12 were D1. Of the 12, only 3 of those players played for TLI. How many softball players are in Long Island again?

Very few go D1. enjoy the game.

2014 LI Graduates

12 D1
43 D2

55 total

2014 Graduates

Coastal Carolina
Yale
Fairfield
- Fairfield
- Rhode Island
- Hartford
- Hartford
- Rutgers
LI Chargers - Maine
- St. Peters
- Seton Hall
- Mt. St. Mary’s
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/28/14 08:09 PM

Some of the D2 schools that those 2014s went to on Long Island could easily beat some of the D1s on that list. Why get so hung up on D1, Find the right fit
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/29/14 08:26 AM

^ Ya that is what all the D2 parents say....

Take a look at the top players they are at D1 schools
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/29/14 01:03 PM

I agree. D123 who cares? The school and major are far more critical factors. I am surprised at the total number. That's great to hear about LI programs in general.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/29/14 03:53 PM

Only 3 from Team LI what!!! No way!!!! Keep drinking the Team LI kool aid! Exactly find the right fit, and there is D-1 and there is D-1, some D-2 schools would cream some D-1 schools. And many D-3 schools could cream some D-2 schools. Also there are D-1 schools I would never send my kid or your kid to!!! I've been to D-1 schools in CT and NJ and ummm no thanks! They can keep their money. There are many very good D-3 schools out there, don't be a D-1 snob, cause honestly no one cares about your kid, seriously we don't. we care about our own kids, so yippeee for you and your D-1/D-2 and now we've moved on. It's all about the piece of paper and what they can do with that piece of paper when they graduate.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/30/14 07:49 AM

I think the general thought is D1 schools in general end up being able to give a better financial package and to some extent that is true. But you need the talent and luck to be in the right spot at the right time. Go to the right camp. Be on the right team. Have the grades. Have the references. Play the position needed for that year. Have the coach like you. It's really not easy. Those who are successful in the recruiting process usually do a lot of work and spend a lot of money.

The numbers of students from LI or even NY going to play D1 for any money is a small percentage. So be realistic about skill level. If you aren't a 4 year varsity starter, all long-island, all state and one of the best 2 or 3 players on your travel team you likely aren't a D1 softball prospect. That's ok. Not many are. If playing in college is still important then there are D2/D3 programs out there and you don't have to necessarily travel all over and spend thousands for it.

Lastly. Stop hating on the few that do get that opportunity to play in college at any level. They likely are the kids who were practicing harder, sacrificing more and studying harder than most. The parents might be jerks but it's not the kids fault. Be happy for them. You will live longer. It sucks being old and bitter.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/30/14 10:55 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Only 3 from Team LI what!!! No way!!!! Keep drinking the Team LI kool aid! Exactly find the right fit, and there is D-1 and there is D-1, some D-2 schools would cream some D-1 schools. And many D-3 schools could cream some D-2 schools. Also there are D-1 schools I would never send my kid or your kid to!!! I've been to D-1 schools in CT and NJ and ummm no thanks! They can keep their money. There are many very good D-3 schools out there, don't be a D-1 snob, cause honestly no one cares about your kid, seriously we don't. we care about our own kids, so yippeee for you and your D-1/D-2 and now we've moved on. It's all about the piece of paper and what they can do with that piece of paper when they graduate.


sir, you are correct on many levels here
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/30/14 03:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
^ Ya that is what all the D2 parents say....

Take a look at the top players they are at D1 schools

not true, one of the top players on the Island for the past few years is going to a D2 school this fall
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/30/14 06:51 PM

At the end of the day not every team is the right fit for each player. Everyone has different goals. Parents, players, parents of other players.

Do your research. Figure out what your player wants and what is realistic athletically/academically.

Travel organizations for recruiting have different target school sweet spot. Hopefully we all can find the right one for our kids.

I know parents act like they don't care if someone else is lucky and talented enough to get some sort of scholarship to a nice school, but it comes off as jealousy when you start with the "that school sucks", "my kid is better" and "I'd rather pay full tuition than send my kid there."

I never understood why people get so upset/jealous about players that work hard and get what they set out for. There were only 55 or so on the entire long island that will get to play D1 or D2 from the 2014 grad class. Congrats to them!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/30/14 08:12 PM

14 u labor [***censored***] day tourn teams have kids who are going into 10th grade they should be ashamed of themselves
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/31/14 06:57 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
^ Ya that is what all the D2 parents say....

Take a look at the top players they are at D1 schools

not true, one of the top players on the Island for the past few years is going to a D2 school this fall


I guess you are her mommy.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/31/14 07:12 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
14 u labor [***censored***] day tourn teams have kids who are going into 10th grade they should be ashamed of themselves


Which tournament is that?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/31/14 11:18 AM

another brilliant comeback!!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/01/14 08:22 AM

TLI has daddy ball going on also. If you are playing on the older teams and want college exposure make sure you aren't on a team where the coaches kids play the same position. The coaches kids will be the ones they recommend to college coaches.

How are you going to like it when the school your kid has contacted shows up and the coaches kid gets put into your kids position and your kid sits the bench?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/01/14 03:30 PM

Some of you people need a reality check. Let your daughter play the game and have fun.its like you want softball to pay for college.if it happens great but for most it won't.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/02/14 07:36 AM

part of the reason for this discussion is to disseminate information. for those that get offended when the teams discussed about being the best for recruitment isn't the team your daughter can make are the ones who say let the girls play for fun.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/02/14 01:07 PM

Heard TLI 99 took another Crush player. Too bad for whoever lost out on TLI, probably someone who has been there for several years. At what point do you have some loyalty to kids who have committed to your team for years? Maybe the training is better at Crush, 2 years in a row they took a top player from Crush.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/02/14 02:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Heard TLI 99 took another Crush player. Too bad for whoever lost out on TLI, probably someone who has been there for several years. At what point do you have some loyalty to kids who have committed to your team for years? Maybe the training is better at Crush, 2 years in a row they took a top player from Crush.


Or the fact that TLI will be better for recruitment for that player than crush ever will. Sounds like that parent got smart. Sucks for Crush or every other non established showcase age team out there... but that is how it works at the showcase level.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/02/14 03:24 PM

Is team explosion still together. Seen them play in the spring. Don't see them registered in any tournaments yet.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/02/14 03:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Heard TLI 99 took another Crush player. Too bad for whoever lost out on TLI, probably someone who has been there for several years. At what point do you have some loyalty to kids who have committed to your team for years? Maybe the training is better at Crush, 2 years in a row they took a top player from Crush.


Did the kid sign a contract? Is she bound by the letter of the law? Is it wrong for that kid and her family to seek what they might think is greener pastures? Or are just jealous that the kid made a move amd was taken by that team.

Stick to your Daddy Ball team and teach the world about loyalty. Shame everyone that wants to move on. You will have the memories.

Keep updating that NCSA page. I heard the ASU sun devil coach scours that website for hidden gems.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/02/14 04:00 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
part of the reason for this discussion is to disseminate information. for those that get offended when the teams discussed about being the best for recruitment isn't the team your daughter can make are the ones who say let the girls play for fun.


your right. but to often the information that is actually disseminated here is just to get another person, player or team aggravated. plus the quote unquote information that is put out here is often made by other coaches used as a recruiting tool for there organization. coaches that write and make statements about other teams, players and coaches. take away form this site what you wish, but please don't take most of the writings as honest and truthful. trust me I know.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/03/14 05:30 AM

New to travel. Any idea how much it costs to play 14u in long island? 16u? 18u?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/03/14 08:44 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Heard TLI 99 took another Crush player. Too bad for whoever lost out on TLI, probably someone who has been there for several years. At what point do you have some loyalty to kids who have committed to your team for years? Maybe the training is better at Crush, 2 years in a row they took a top player from Crush.


Did the kid sign a contract? Is she bound by the letter of the law? Is it wrong for that kid and her family to seek what they might think is greener pastures? Or are just jealous that the kid made a move amd was taken by that team.

Stick to your Daddy Ball team and teach the world about loyalty. Shame everyone that wants to move on. You will have the memories.

Keep updating that NCSA page. I heard the ASU sun devil coach scours that website for hidden gems.


It happens after 14U. Players/parents realize they need to be on the team that gets them the right exposure. D1 level players end up going to to teams that can get them D1 exposure. D2 players need to end up on teams that can help them get D2 schools. Its not an insult to other teams. Its just what needs to be done if they want to do it.

The 14u Lunachicks from a few years ago, that hv hurricanes black team from upstate that won pony nationals, and a few others had to disband after 14U to get them the right exposure for the kids. Those teams were all together since 10u probably and i bet all understood why it had to happen and are all still friends i bet.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/03/14 10:15 AM

TLI only takes girls that are already polished. Tell me one team that they developed and stayed together with nobody leaving. None so lets stop the bs there a good oganization by you parents that havent been through college process dont ubnderstand what goes on. anybody thats says they guarantee they will get you in to college is full of sh . the only guarantee is the opportunity to play in front of those schools. grades are a factor, if the coach like u or she likes the coach she most like the school.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/04/14 11:15 AM

[quotmigrate
mous]TLI only takes girls that are already polished. Tell me one team that they developed and stayed together with nobody leaving. None so lets stop the bs there a good oganization by you parents that havent been through college process dont ubnderstand what goes on. anybody thats says they guarantee they will get you in to college is full of sh . the only guarantee is the opportunity to play in front of those schools. grades are a factor, if the coach like u or she likes the coach she most like the school. [/quote]

Kids move to tli not because they are polished but to get a better understanding and to be a student of the game. Something, you as a Daddy Ball coach conveniently and purposely neglected to teach them because why would someone else other than your DD have the knowledge.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/04/14 12:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
TLI only takes girls that are already polished. Tell me one team that they developed and stayed together with nobody leaving. None so lets stop the bs there a good oganization by you parents that havent been through college process dont ubnderstand what goes on. anybody thats says they guarantee they will get you in to college is full of sh . the only guarantee is the opportunity to play in front of those schools. grades are a factor, if the coach like u or she likes the coach she most like the school.


Huh what speak English!!!!!!!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/04/14 02:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous


It happens after 14U. Players/parents realize they need to be on the team that gets them the right exposure. D1 level players end up going to to teams that can get them D1 exposure. D2 players need to end up on teams that can help them get D2 schools. Its not an insult to other teams. Its just what needs to be done if they want to do it.

The 14u Lunachicks from a few years ago, that hv hurricanes black team from upstate that won pony nationals, and a few others had to disband after 14U to get them the right exposure for the kids. Those teams were all together since 10u probably and i bet all understood why it had to happen and are all still friends i bet.


I bet you are a jealous mom living through your daughter.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/05/14 07:42 AM

Kids move to TLI because they are the better players. Top players want to play with other top players. They aren't afraid to have to compete for a spot.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/05/14 09:45 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Heard TLI 99 took another Crush player. Too bad for whoever lost out on TLI, probably someone who has been there for several years. At what point do you have some loyalty to kids who have committed to your team for years? Maybe the training is better at Crush, 2 years in a row they took a top player from Crush.


Did the kid sign a contract? Is she bound by the letter of the law? Is it wrong for that kid and her family to seek what they might think is greener pastures? Or are just jealous that the kid made a move amd was taken by that team.

Stick to your Daddy Ball team and teach the world about loyalty. Shame everyone that wants to move on. You will have the memories.

Keep updating that NCSA page. I heard the ASU sun devil coach scours that website for hidden gems.


It happens after 14U. Players/parents realize they need to be on the team that gets them the right exposure. D1 level players end up going to to teams that can get them D1 exposure. D2 players need to end up on teams that can help them get D2 schools. Its not an insult to other teams. Its just what needs to be done if they want to do it.

The 14u Lunachicks from a few years ago, that hv hurricanes black team from upstate that won pony nationals, and a few others had to disband after 14U to get them the right exposure for the kids. Those teams were all together since 10u probably and i bet all understood why it had to happen and are all still friends i bet.


When teams disband for those reasons, some go off to better teams for exposure but a few kids/families get left behind and those are the ones that usually jealous and bitter.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/05/14 01:07 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Heard TLI 99 took another Crush player. Too bad for whoever lost out on TLI, probably someone who has been there for several years. At what point do you have some loyalty to kids who have committed to your team for years? Maybe the training is better at Crush, 2 years in a row they took a top player from Crush.


How about the idea that TLI 99 didn't "take" any players from the Crush? Maybe the girls (and their families) decided to leave the Crush for whatever reasons they have and happened to tryout for TLI 99 and made the team. Maybe the top players that left realize that the Crush may not have the connections or even "name" to get them looked at by college coaches. They weren't "taken"....they chose to leave.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/06/14 07:40 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Heard TLI 99 took another Crush player. Too bad for whoever lost out on TLI, probably someone who has been there for several years. At what point do you have some loyalty to kids who have committed to your team for years? Maybe the training is better at Crush, 2 years in a row they took a top player from Crush.


Did the kid sign a contract? Is she bound by the letter of the law? Is it wrong for that kid and her family to seek what they might think is greener pastures? Or are just jealous that the kid made a move amd was taken by that team.

Stick to your Daddy Ball team and teach the world about loyalty. Shame everyone that wants to move on. You will have the memories.

Keep updating that NCSA page. I heard the ASU sun devil coach scours that website for hidden gems.


It happens after 14U. Players/parents realize they need to be on the team that gets them the right exposure. D1 level players end up going to to teams that can get them D1 exposure. D2 players need to end up on teams that can help them get D2 schools. Its not an insult to other teams. Its just what needs to be done if they want to do it.

The 14u Lunachicks from a few years ago, that hv hurricanes black team from upstate that won pony nationals, and a few others had to disband after 14U to get them the right exposure for the kids. Those teams were all together since 10u probably and i bet all understood why it had to happen and are all still friends i bet.


When teams disband for those reasons, some go off to better teams for exposure but a few kids/families get left behind and those are the ones that usually jealous and bitter.


And those parents end up here crying.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/06/14 01:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Kids move to TLI because they are the better players. Top players want to play with other top players. They aren't afraid to have to compete for a spot.


TLI does have some of the best HS players in long island. So if you aren't one of those top players, it probably isn't for you. You will just be sitting the bench... unless your dad is one of the coaches.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/06/14 06:42 PM

Believe that Xplosion is reconfiguring as Long Island Spirit 16U - new coaches, essentailly same core group of girls - per the rumor mill.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/06/14 09:20 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Believe that Xplosion is reconfiguring as Long Island Spirit 16U - new coaches, essentailly same core group of girls - per the rumor mill.


That should be a pretty powerful team.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/06/14 09:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Kids move to TLI because they are the better players. Top players want to play with other top players. They aren't afraid to have to compete for a spot.


TLI does have some of the best HS players in long island. So if you aren't one of those top players, it probably isn't for you. You will just be sitting the bench... unless your dad is one of the coaches.


So true, hard to believe someone else sees this because in the "organizations" dad isn't mentioned as having much influence, but yes, this is one of the most accurate posts I've seen in a while...restores my faith in reality vs what most others choose to believe...not saying it's a bad thing, just true
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/07/14 04:33 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Heard TLI 99 took another Crush player. Too bad for whoever lost out on TLI, probably someone who has been there for several years. At what point do you have some loyalty to kids who have committed to your team for years? Maybe the training is better at Crush, 2 years in a row they took a top player from Crush.


How about the idea that TLI 99 didn't "take" any players from the Crush? Maybe the girls (and their families) decided to leave the Crush for whatever reasons they have and happened to tryout for TLI 99 and made the team. Maybe the top players that left realize that the Crush may not have the connections or even "name" to get them looked at by college coaches. They weren't "taken"....they chose to leave.


After a certain point parents/players need to do what is best for their child. Staying loyal has nothing to do with it. If she wants to play anything other than D2/D3 those families had to move.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/08/14 08:18 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Heard TLI 99 took another Crush player. Too bad for whoever lost out on TLI, probably someone who has been there for several years. At what point do you have some loyalty to kids who have committed to your team for years? Maybe the training is better at Crush, 2 years in a row they took a top player from Crush.


How about the idea that TLI 99 didn't "take" any players from the Crush? Maybe the girls (and their families) decided to leave the Crush for whatever reasons they have and happened to tryout for TLI 99 and made the team. Maybe the top players that left realize that the Crush may not have the connections or even "name" to get them looked at by college coaches. They weren't "taken"....they chose to leave.


After a certain point parents/players need to do what is best for their child. Staying loyal has nothing to do with it. If she wants to play anything other than D2/D3 those families had to move.


Why do they have the move to play other than D2/D3?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/08/14 02:29 PM

What's wrong with D2? It's never enough for you people?! After D1 D2 or even D3- college life is the same Softball will be over. Stop trying to impress everyone and putting that kind of pressure on your daughter and look at the big picture!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/08/14 07:07 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What's wrong with D2? It's never enough for you people?! After D1 D2 or even D3- college life is the same Softball will be over. Stop trying to impress everyone and putting that kind of pressure on your daughter and look at the big picture!


Nothing is wrong with D2 or D3. Some people just want D1. If they want D1 they have to do things differently. It's not for everyone.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/08/14 07:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Heard TLI 99 took another Crush player. Too bad for whoever lost out on TLI, probably someone who has been there for several years. At what point do you have some loyalty to kids who have committed to your team for years? Maybe the training is better at Crush, 2 years in a row they took a top player from Crush.


How about the idea that TLI 99 didn't "take" any players from the Crush? Maybe the girls (and their families) decided to leave the Crush for whatever reasons they have and happened to tryout for TLI 99 and made the team. Maybe the top players that left realize that the Crush may not have the connections or even "name" to get them looked at by college coaches. They weren't "taken"....they chose to leave.


After a certain point parents/players need to do what is best for their child. Staying loyal has nothing to do with it. If she wants to play anything other than D2/D3 those families had to move.


Why do they have the move to play other than D2/D3?


To get recruited D1 you have to be on a team that gets D1 exposure. Part of which means being in the right tournaments and on the right fields.

It's also sort of like building a resume for a job. Employers like the Ivy league grads. Can someone who went to so & so state do the job? maybe. But an Ivy league grad has the edge. Less risk for the employer.

College coaches tend to trust established teams playing top talent.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/08/14 07:21 PM

absolutely nothing is wrong with D2 or D3.
Before colleges are chosen it seems like D1 is the only way to go.

D2 and 3 are actually a much better fit in many cases, especially if you want to play as a freshman or even sophmore.

Getting a quality education while playing a game that you love is really what it is all about. This is te ONLY things its about. Last time I checked, there is no such thing as a professional women's softball league. The girls will become professionals in something BESIDES softball!

It about the experience, getting a great education, and being on the field, not on the bench.

A great D2 or D3 has much more value than a D1 with average academics. To a future employer, grad school, or professional school, the undergraduate school really does matter, not the division of softball that she played in.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/08/14 09:46 PM

I think most agree nothing is wrong with D2/D3. But what everyone seems to have a problem with the fact, and it is a fact, that if you don't play on the right team with the right schedule it is very hard to go D1. Even if you play on the right team with the right schedule it is hard. But it is much harder if you don't play for a more established team.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/09/14 12:03 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I think most agree nothing is wrong with D2/D3. But what everyone seems to have a problem with the fact, and it is a fact, that if you don't play on the right team with the right schedule it is very hard to go D1. Even if you play on the right team with the right schedule it is hard. But it is much harder if you don't play for a more established team.



D1 in general has more scholarship money available and usually better academics than most D2's. D3 is a different story.D3 is all about academics, but no money.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/09/14 12:10 PM

Some girls do have a dream to play D1. Be on ESPN. Get scholarship money to play in college. It's not always the parents dream.

She can dream all she wants. I know my kid doesn't have the talent for that but if she did have the talent and desire I would make sure I put her in the right position to succeed in softball and life. I think most parents would too. If it meant moving her off a team that she was "comfortable" on for better exposure, I would help her with that.

Sometimes you need to leave your comfort zone to see how successful you can really be. If you are always just comfortable then it is harder to push yourself out of that comfort zone, excel and see how good they can really be. Not just softball, school, work and life.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/10/14 08:13 AM

This is true about D1s having better academics in general. If you look at the top 50 academic schools in any poll they are either D1 or D3. This doesnt mean you can't get a good education at a D2 school. You definitely can get a great education with a degree that means something afterwards at a D2 school. If you can get some softball money too then that's great.

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I think most agree nothing is wrong with D2/D3. But what everyone seems to have a problem with the fact, and it is a fact, that if you don't play on the right team with the right schedule it is very hard to go D1. Even if you play on the right team with the right schedule it is hard. But it is much harder if you don't play for a more established team.



D1 in general has more scholarship money available and usually better academics than most D2's. D3 is a different story.D3 is all about academics, but no money.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/17/14 12:54 AM

Could I just say that if you have talent , can hit like Trout , Ruth who ever u want to use....coaches will Find You ....if not then worry about which organization to play for ....Tri - State -Arsenal does have great exposure
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/17/14 05:46 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Could I just say that if you have talent , can hit like Trout , Ruth who ever u want to use....coaches will Find You ....if not then worry about which organization to play for ....Tri - State -Arsenal does have great exposure


Maybe for baseball. Very hard for softball.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/18/14 02:30 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Could I just say that if you have talent , can hit like Trout , Ruth who ever u want to use....coaches will Find You ....if not then worry about which organization to play for ....Tri - State -Arsenal does have great exposure


The problem with this with Long Island Softball is that if a softball player can in fact hit like Trout, the competition in long island is so weak it is hard to gauge the talent unless they play the better competition. The better competition is in the better tournaments, the better tournaments are invite only so not every org can get into those. Sure someone will find them, but the top competitive schools won't find that top player if they stay on long island and play a weak schedule. If they do eventually find them, scholarship money is gone by then. PAC12, ACC, SEC schools are done with scholarship money through 2017 already and probably 2018 at this point.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/19/14 01:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Could I just say that if you have talent , can hit like Trout , Ruth who ever u want to use....coaches will Find You ....if not then worry about which organization to play for ....Tri - State -Arsenal does have great exposure


The problem with this with Long Island Softball is that if a softball player can in fact hit like Trout, the competition in long island is so weak it is hard to gauge the talent unless they play the better competition. The better competition is in the better tournaments, the better tournaments are invite only so not every org can get into those. Sure someone will find them, but the top competitive schools won't find that top player if they stay on long island and play a weak schedule. If they do eventually find them, scholarship money is gone by then. PAC12, ACC, SEC schools are done with scholarship money through 2017 already and probably 2018 at this point.



Clueless!!! Spoken like a true salesmen!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/19/14 02:15 PM

How many softball players from Long Island are playing in the SEC PAC or ACC? Pick a hand and start counting. And the reason the number is so small has little to do with the team a kid is playing for and showcases. Let's be honest, those programs aren't looking to LI kids as a source of talent.

Also, are these schools committing all their scholarship $ to girls entering their freshman year of HS?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/19/14 02:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Could I just say that if you have talent , can hit like Trout , Ruth who ever u want to use....coaches will Find You ....if not then worry about which organization to play for ....Tri - State -Arsenal does have great exposure


The problem with this with Long Island Softball is that if a softball player can in fact hit like Trout, the competition in long island is so weak it is hard to gauge the talent unless they play the better competition. The better competition is in the better tournaments, the better tournaments are invite only so not every org can get into those. Sure someone will find them, but the top competitive schools won't find that top player if they stay on long island and play a weak schedule. If they do eventually find them, scholarship money is gone by then. PAC12, ACC, SEC schools are done with scholarship money through 2017 already and probably 2018 at this point.



Which also proves your point about the week talent on Long Island since no 2017 or 2018 girls are part of that recruiting scenario as being scholarship college bound players. None! Zilch! Look at teams outside of Long Island that have numerous 2017 and 2018 girls already committed to colleges. Speaks volumes!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/19/14 10:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Could I just say that if you have talent , can hit like Trout , Ruth who ever u want to use....coaches will Find You ....if not then worry about which organization to play for ....Tri - State -Arsenal does have great exposure


The problem with this with Long Island Softball is that if a softball player can in fact hit like Trout, the competition in long island is so weak it is hard to gauge the talent unless they play the better competition. The better competition is in the better tournaments, the better tournaments are invite only so not every org can get into those. Sure someone will find them, but the top competitive schools won't find that top player if they stay on long island and play a weak schedule. If they do eventually find them, scholarship money is gone by then. PAC12, ACC, SEC schools are done with scholarship money through 2017 already and probably 2018 at this point.



Which also proves your point about the week talent on Long Island since no 2017 or 2018 girls are part of that recruiting scenario as being scholarship college bound players. None! Zilch! Look at teams outside of Long Island that have numerous 2017 and 2018 girls already committed to colleges. Speaks volumes!



Im so confused. I thought schools couldn't talk to you 2017 yet? How are they committing??
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/20/14 09:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous

Im so confused. I thought schools couldn't talk to you 2017 yet? How are they committing??


You're not confused. They are lying again. Likely to spread misinformation. No 2017s can be committed.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/21/14 04:56 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous

Im so confused. I thought schools couldn't talk to you 2017 yet? How are they committing??


You're not confused. They are lying again. Likely to spread misinformation. No 2017s can be committed.


Dylan Moses, 15, commits to LSU

Updated: September 23, 2013, 10:25 AM ET

By Derek Tyson | ESPN.com

He's only 15 years old and still several years away from playing college football, but 2017 linebacker prospect Dylan Moses (Baton Rouge, La./University Lab) already has made quite a name for himself.

On Sunday night, he ended his recruitment early and gave a pledge to the hometown LSU Tigers.

The 6-foot-1, 213-pounder chose the Tigers over offers from Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Florida State, Texas and many others.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/21/14 09:19 AM

not true, you can verbal before Junior year. Colleges can CONTACT players D-2 June of Sophmore year, D-1 3 months later Sept of Junior year, D-3 can call anyone any time. Just google the NCAA recruiting rules. However a prospect athlete can initiate converstaions prior to those dates. Example, you can call a coach, ie. hey travel coach I am in my office Mondays after 3, if your pitcher has any questions have her call the office, you can also visit the campus, and your coach can speak to anyone. There are rules about this behavior and you need to know them and follow them, well supposedly follow them anyway. MANY MANY if not MOST D-1 players are verbaled prior to Sept of their Junior year. If you enter your junior year and colleges have not spoken to your travel coach you better get moving. So define committed, a verbal is a verbal committment between the two parties, it is not enforceable but is honored unless extraordinary things occur. Like a coach leaving, verbals go with coach. So 2017s can and are most definitely committed prior to junior year and are committed now. Verbally. That is FACT!! As for the big conference schools and being done with 2016s, WRONG, These schools chase the big fish, the big fish many times bide their time for the best offers and best programs and chance of winning. Why would a big fish verbal in 2014 for a team that might be terrible in 2018 when they get there, or when the can get the best offer by waiting and playing schools off each other. The really big fish have their choice and will take their time. Small fish and medium fish jump at offers. Its a personal choice and whats good for one is not good for others. People need to stop using this board for information, it is filled with nay sayers and people who frankly have no idea awhat they are talking about Dont listen to my information google it yourself. Do any kids read this board or is it just angry parents?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/21/14 10:37 AM

“It can be done in several ways:
1) Contacting the high school coaching staff, club coach, AAU or a youth coach. Many times the coach will be asked to forward the offer and/or an invitation to the athlete to have the parents and prospect call the college coach or make an unofficial visit to the college’s campus. The unofficial offer can be made directly from the college’s head coach to the athlete and family.
2) Inviting a 7th or 8th grader back to campus following a camp on campus for the purpose of making the offer. The student-athlete can visit with the coach right after the camp as well, as an unofficial visit.
3) Using a scouting service to contact a prospect to encourage them to contact the college coach.
4) Send a questionnaire and/or camp brochure using this correspondence to direct the athlete to contact the office.”

We just got back from a camp down south at a D1 school. The head coach indicated that they are only looking at 2017, 2018 right now. They are done with 2016. So there is truth to the statements prior.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/22/14 09:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous

Im so confused. I thought schools couldn't talk to you 2017 yet? How are they committing??


You're not confused. They are lying again. Likely to spread misinformation. No 2017s can be committed.


Dylan Moses, 15, commits to LSU

Updated: September 23, 2013, 10:25 AM ET

By Derek Tyson | ESPN.com

He's only 15 years old and still several years away from playing college football, but 2017 linebacker prospect Dylan Moses (Baton Rouge, La./University Lab) already has made quite a name for himself.

On Sunday night, he ended his recruitment early and gave a pledge to the hometown LSU Tigers.

The 6-foot-1, 213-pounder chose the Tigers over offers from Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Florida State, Texas and many others.


That's football. Show me softball.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/23/14 05:58 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous

Im so confused. I thought schools couldn't talk to you 2017 yet? How are they committing??


You're not confused. They are lying again. Likely to spread misinformation. No 2017s can be committed.


Dylan Moses, 15, commits to LSU

Updated: September 23, 2013, 10:25 AM ET

By Derek Tyson | ESPN.com

He's only 15 years old and still several years away from playing college football, but 2017 linebacker prospect Dylan Moses (Baton Rouge, La./University Lab) already has made quite a name for himself.

On Sunday night, he ended his recruitment early and gave a pledge to the hometown LSU Tigers.

The 6-foot-1, 213-pounder chose the Tigers over offers from Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Florida State, Texas and many others.


That's football. Show me softball.


You really are dense aren't you. You want softball you got it.

FROM THE COLUMBIA TRIBUNE IN COLUMBIA MISSOURI
By BLAKE TOPPMEYER
MONDAY, June 30, 2014 at 1:00 pm

SOFTBALL PLAYERS MAKING COLLEGE CHOICES BEFORE THEIR FIRST HIGH SCHOOL GAME


http://www.columbiatribune.com/sports/mu...716c3e1f4a.html

Rice is one of 100 softball players in the 2017 graduating class who have given verbal commitments to Division I programs, according to GoldFastpich.com, a softball recruiting website. Twelve from the 2018 class, players who just finished eighth grade, are verbally committed, according to the website.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/23/14 07:10 AM

You really are dense aren't you. You want softball you got it.

FROM THE COLUMBIA TRIBUNE IN COLUMBIA MISSOURI
By BLAKE TOPPMEYER
MONDAY, June 30, 2014 at 1:00 pm

SOFTBALL PLAYERS MAKING COLLEGE CHOICES BEFORE THEIR FIRST HIGH SCHOOL GAME


http://www.columbiatribune.com/sports/mu...716c3e1f4a.html

Rice is one of 100 softball players in the 2017 graduating class who have given verbal commitments to Division I programs, according to GoldFastpich.com, a softball recruiting website. Twelve from the 2018 class, players who just finished eighth grade, are verbally committed, according to the website.[/quote]
Impressive list, well over 100 but how many from Long Island or even near LI? Birmingham Thunderbolts from Alabama have 11 girls from 2017 on the list. Most of the others are Ca/Tx/Fl/Ga, not much Northeast, as you would expect. This just doesn't apply to Long Island in general. Most of them will start committing next spring and the following, many later.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/23/14 08:50 AM

He is not dense.

He just cannot fathom why his DD has not been recruited yet by any major D1 softball program. Maybe the grapevine hasn't mentioned your Daddy Ball team yet. And why should they, when yoh don't sign up for major tournaments.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/23/14 09:32 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous

-Im so confused. I thought schools couldn't talk to you 2017 yet? How are they committing??

- You're not confused. They are lying again. Likely to spread misinformation. No 2017s can be committed.

Dylan Moses, 15, commits to LSU

Updated: September 23, 2013, 10:25 AM ET

By Derek Tyson | ESPN.com

He's only 15 years old and still several years away from playing college football, but 2017 linebacker prospect Dylan Moses (Baton Rouge, La./University Lab) already has made quite a name for himself.

On Sunday night, he ended his recruitment early and gave a pledge to the hometown LSU Tigers.

The 6-foot-1, 213-pounder chose the Tigers over offers from Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Florida State, Texas and many others.

- That's football. Show me softball.

You really are dense aren't you. You want softball you got it.

FROM THE COLUMBIA TRIBUNE IN COLUMBIA MISSOURI
By BLAKE TOPPMEYER
MONDAY, June 30, 2014 at 1:00 pm

SOFTBALL PLAYERS MAKING COLLEGE CHOICES BEFORE THEIR FIRST HIGH SCHOOL GAME


http://www.columbiatribune.com/sports/mu...716c3e1f4a.html

Rice is one of 100 softball players in the 2017 graduating class who have given verbal commitments to Division I programs, according to GoldFastpich.com, a softball recruiting website. Twelve from the 2018 class, players who just finished eighth grade, are verbally committed, according to the website.


Lets put it in perspective. Thats like 100 kids in the entire country. That doesn't happen to players from long island or even NY. Next.

No D1 school will consider a kid from NY before playing a HS game. That just doesnt happen.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/23/14 10:46 AM


There are now 22 Class of 2018 verbal commits and 1 Class of 2019 commit named Michelle Leone who will be going to PENN STATE.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/23/14 01:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
The Changing Face of Recruiting

https://www.fullcountsoftball.com/2014/09/21/changing-face-recruiting-part-1-921/

"Cathi stresses that if a player wants to be considered by D1 schools, she needs to get on their radar by her sophomore year of high school."

but also "the truth is over 80% of students won’t decide upon a college until their junior or, in many cases, their senior year.", that's 80% of the entire country so for those who struggle with math, you can safely assume over 95% of Long Island softball players who will play in any college will not decide until junior year or later.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/23/14 02:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
He is not dense.

He just cannot fathom why his DD has not been recruited yet by any major D1 softball program. Maybe the grapevine hasn't mentioned your Daddy Ball team yet. And why should they, when yoh don't sign up for major tournaments.


I would say winning an 18u tournament as a 16u team isn't too shabby. What have you won lately?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/24/14 07:38 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
The Changing Face of Recruiting



"Cathi stresses that if a player wants to be considered by D1 schools, she needs to get on their radar by her sophomore year of high school."

but also "the truth is over 80% of students won’t decide upon a college until their junior or, in many cases, their senior year.", that's 80% of the entire country so for those who struggle with math, you can safely assume over 95% of Long Island softball players who will play in any college will not decide until junior year or later.


Yes. "Decide" is the key word there. Doesn't mean they don't need to put in the work freshman and sophomore year about getting on the radar.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/24/14 10:33 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
He is not dense.

He just cannot fathom why his DD has not been recruited yet by any major D1 softball program. Maybe the grapevine hasn't mentioned your Daddy Ball team yet. And why should they, when yoh don't sign up for major tournaments.


I would say winning an 18u tournament as a 16u team isn't too shabby. What have you won lately?



6 teams all together? You don't need to convince me that it "isn't too shabby". It's the parents on your Daddy Ball team you have to convince. Then again you covered that by letting them drink the kool aid.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/24/14 07:07 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
He is not dense.

He just cannot fathom why his DD has not been recruited yet by any major D1 softball program. Maybe the grapevine hasn't mentioned your Daddy Ball team yet. And why should they, when yoh don't sign up for major tournaments.


I would say winning an 18u tournament as a 16u team isn't too shabby. What have you won lately?




6 teams all together? You don't need to convince me that it "isn't too shabby". It's the parents on your Daddy Ball team you have to convince. Then again you covered that by letting them drink the kool aid.


Why can't you just stop talking about a bunch of kids who just love softball? Are you obsessed with us or something?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/24/14 09:20 PM

Oh and I also wanted to mention that there are 2018's and 2019's committed. It's happenning as we speak.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/25/14 06:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
He is not dense.

He just cannot fathom why his DD has not been recruited yet by any major D1 softball program. Maybe the grapevine hasn't mentioned your Daddy Ball team yet. And why should they, when yoh don't sign up for major tournaments.


I would say winning an 18u tournament as a 16u team isn't too shabby. What have you won lately?




6 teams all together? You don't need to convince me that it "isn't too shabby". It's the parents on your Daddy Ball team you have to convince. Then again you covered that by letting them drink the kool aid.


Why can't you just stop talking about a bunch of kids who just love softball? Are you obsessed with us or something?
3


Obsessed?!?!?!

More like amused and at the same time fodder for entertainment. Not only do you seem fit to educate us on how a team should operate, "with love " etc. etc.etc. Now you guys are giving us scouting reports on the teams you played. Really?! Seriously?!.

I know you guys love the attention being thrown your way on this board. I know it keeps your team name relevant and in the conversation. The current term for this is "trending".

So keep your scouting reports to yourselves. If people here wanted to know about the the other teams they will go and watch the games being that they are mostly local.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/26/14 05:03 AM




[/quote]Obsessed?!?!?!

More like amused and at the same time fodder for entertainment. Not only do you seem fit to educate us on how a team should operate, "with love " etc. etc.etc. Now you guys are giving us scouting reports on the teams you played. Really?! Seriously?!.

I know you guys love the attention being thrown your way on this board. I know it keeps your team name relevant and in the conversation. The current term for this is "trending".

So keep your scouting reports to yourselves. If people here wanted to know about the the other teams they will go and watch the games being that they are mostly local.[/quote]


WWLS ?


What Would Linda Say?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/26/14 09:28 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous

6 teams all together? You don't need to convince me that it "isn't too shabby". It's the parents on your Daddy Ball team you have to convince. Then again you covered that by letting them drink the kool aid.


Why can't you just stop talking about a bunch of kids who just love softball? Are you obsessed with us or something?
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Obsessed?!?!?!

More like amused and at the same time fodder for entertainment. Not only do you seem fit to educate us on how a team should operate, "with love " etc. etc.etc. Now you guys are giving us scouting reports on the teams you played. Really?! Seriously?!.

I know you guys love the attention being thrown your way on this board. I know it keeps your team name relevant and in the conversation. The current term for this is "trending".

So keep your scouting reports to yourselves. If people here wanted to know about the the other teams they will go and watch the games being that they are mostly local. [/quote]

We don't need attention from this board. It's weirdo's like you that keep bringing us up. Just mind your own business. We will do it our way. You do it yours. Keep spending those thousands... our kids are having fun... winning.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/26/14 10:07 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous

-Im so confused. I thought schools couldn't talk to you 2017 yet? How are they committing??

- You're not confused. They are lying again. Likely to spread misinformation. No 2017s can be committed.

Dylan Moses, 15, commits to LSU

Updated: September 23, 2013, 10:25 AM ET

By Derek Tyson | ESPN.com

He's only 15 years old and still several years away from playing college football, but 2017 linebacker prospect Dylan Moses (Baton Rouge, La./University Lab) already has made quite a name for himself.

On Sunday night, he ended his recruitment early and gave a pledge to the hometown LSU Tigers.

The 6-foot-1, 213-pounder chose the Tigers over offers from Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Florida State, Texas and many others.

- That's football. Show me softball.

You really are dense aren't you. You want softball you got it.

FROM THE COLUMBIA TRIBUNE IN COLUMBIA MISSOURI
By BLAKE TOPPMEYER
MONDAY, June 30, 2014 at 1:00 pm

SOFTBALL PLAYERS MAKING COLLEGE CHOICES BEFORE THEIR FIRST HIGH SCHOOL GAME


http://www.columbiatribune.com/sports/mu...716c3e1f4a.html

Rice is one of 100 softball players in the 2017 graduating class who have given verbal commitments to Division I programs, according to GoldFastpich.com, a softball recruiting website. Twelve from the 2018 class, players who just finished eighth grade, are verbally committed, according to the website.


Lets put it in perspective. Thats like 100 kids in the entire country. That doesn't happen to players from long island or even NY. Next.

No D1 school will consider a kid from NY before playing a HS game. That just doesnt happen.


Just this past winter a player from upstate NY was offered a full ride as a freshman and committed before ever playing HS. It does happen. Just not to most.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/26/14 05:41 PM

"having fun... winning."

The truth shall set you free.!!!!!!!!

So that is the bottom line, winning! You just described what your team is all about, winning! Ala Charlie Sheen.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/26/14 10:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous

Im so confused. I thought schools couldn't talk to you 2017 yet? How are they committing??


You're not confused. They are lying again. Likely to spread misinformation. No 2017s can be committed.


I checked out a top website that's shows all girls that are committed to colleges and their graduating year. There are plenty of 2017's, 2018's and even a few 2019's committed. And one 2017 local girl committed too from Team Long Island. So there goes your theory.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/27/14 10:16 AM

Prayers go out to families of North Central Texas College softball team.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/29/14 05:48 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous

Im so confused. I thought schools couldn't talk to you 2017 yet? How are they committing??


You're not confused. They are lying again. Likely to spread misinformation. No 2017s can be committed.


I checked out a top website that's shows all girls that are committed to colleges and their graduating year. There are plenty of 2017's, 2018's and even a few 2019's committed. And one 2017 local girl committed too from Team Long Island. So there goes your theory.


We will do it our way. Girls developing and enjoying the game. Its ridiculous to spend thousands on showcases. When coaches see the talent they know. It doesn't matter what team they are on.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/29/14 10:41 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous

Im so confused. I thought schools couldn't talk to you 2017 yet? How are they committing??


You're not confused. They are lying again. Likely to spread misinformation. No 2017s can be committed.


I checked out a top website that's shows all girls that are committed to colleges and their graduating year. There are plenty of 2017's, 2018's and even a few 2019's committed. And one 2017 local girl committed too from Team Long Island. So there goes your theory.


We will do it our way. Girls developing and enjoying the game. Its ridiculous to spend thousands on showcases. When coaches see the talent they know. It doesn't matter what team they are on.


Bottom line. Everyone should do it their own way or go to a team that does it the way you think is best. This forum allows parents and kids to critique and criticize anonymously. If one person thinks paying that extra money is worth it fine; if another thinks saving the money and doing it themselves fine.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/30/14 09:16 AM

What they think is best is not always the best. But I guess if some coaches steer them the wrong way... then live and learn
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/30/14 03:00 PM

girls at that age can't be committed yet 2017 2018. They can talkin until Junior year date
july 1 then then can start talking. Half these organization are getting you to go there so they can make money. Go to NCAA Recruiting rules and tell me if its possible
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/30/14 04:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What they think is best is not always the best. But I guess if some coaches steer them the wrong way... then live and learn


your right. but there are, unfortunately, many things that I think are best that might not be the best in retrospect or in the long run. i am not perfect. but i try to make the right decisions and choices, some times they are wrong decisions about a team or coach, in the long run, i hope those are my worst decisions.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/30/14 05:26 PM

ladies and gentleman any parent or potential recruit can speak to a coach as long as the recruit or parent start the conversation. for instance if you call the coach and she or he picks up the phone they will speak to you. what they will not do and can't do is respond to a kids email prior to their junior year in D1. D2 and D3 can speak to you in August at the end of your sophmore year . most of these kids attend a lot of school camps and that's where most of the contact happens. yes and 2017 can't sign a "letter of intent" but can verbal. once a coach puts a verbal offer out he or she can't back out of it unless grades or some other factors come into play. if they do back out then they would a hard time recruiting kids
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/30/14 06:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
girls at that age can't be committed yet 2017 2018. They can talkin until Junior year date
july 1 then then can start talking. Half these organization are getting you to go there so they can make money. Go to NCAA Recruiting rules and tell me if its possible


It is possible.

There is no NCAA rule to prohibit a college coach from offering an athlete a scholarship before the coach is allowed to have off-campus contact or initiate phone contact with a recruit. There’s also no rule preventing player-initiated phone calls to a college coach before coaches are allowed to call prospects. Prospects of any age can talk to coaches while on an unofficial visit as long as it’s not during a recruiting dead period.


Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/30/14 06:58 PM

does anyone read other posts? Learn the rules before you say something!!! You can VERBALLY Commit!!!!!!!!! The 17s and 18s are VERBALLY COMMITTED!!!!!!! Almost as good as a written which is only allowed after certain dates. Please don't post wrong information. And yes you can talk to colleges before junior year. You can go to the college and talk away at any age, and they can contact your coach any time. This is why playing on travel teams with little to no recruiting experience is a really bad idea. These know it all posters are dangerous.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/01/14 06:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous


- You're not confused. They are lying again. Likely to spread misinformation. No 2017s can be committed.

- I checked out a top website that's shows all girls that are committed to colleges and their graduating year. There are plenty of 2017's, 2018's and even a few 2019's committed. And one 2017 local girl committed too from Team Long Island. So there goes your theory.

- We will do it our way. Girls developing and enjoying the game. Its ridiculous to spend thousands on showcases. When coaches see the talent they know. It doesn't matter what team they are on.

- Bottom line. Everyone should do it their own way or go to a team that does it the way you think is best. This forum allows parents and kids to critique and criticize anonymously. If one person thinks paying that extra money is worth it fine; if another thinks saving the money and doing it themselves fine.


Yes. Some things are fine for some people. I don't understand why some people get so upset when people explain the truth about recruiting. Daddy ball no name teams is not the best method for recruiting if that is what you want for your child. If you only want love of teammates and enjoyment of the game maybe that daddy ball no name team is fine. But to say that certain big name organizations don't actually help that process is just living in denial.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/02/14 07:08 AM

yoy have no clue if your with a organization ur giving out the wrong info. Better look rules up.A coach cant call you before july 1 of jr year. If you happen to call and the coach answers its a different story. a coach CANT and will NOT call you back before there JR after july 1
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/02/14 07:12 AM

A verbal committment is only a agreement. if either person changes there mind nothing happens. When you sign the letter of INTENT early in NOV or April on NSD then you are locked into that school. so verbal means nothing. Most schools honor it because they dont want a bad reputation if they cancel.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/02/14 07:17 AM

Here it is Mr College expert. So your giving the wrong info with your big organization and paying 3500 over four years for no reason. Small organization know just as much.


2013-2014 NCAA Softball Recruiting Calendar
by recruit
Softball Recruiting Calendar for 2013-14
Calendar runs 08-01-13 through 07-31-14.

08-01-13 thru 11-27-13 Contact Period *with the following exception (i)

(i) 11-11-13 thru 11-14-13 Dead Period

11-28-13 thru 01-01-14 Quiet Period *with the following exception (i)

(i) 12-04-13 thru 12-08-13 Dead Period

01-02-14 thru 07-31-14 Contact Period *with the following exceptions (i) and (ii)

(i) 04-14-14 thru 04-17-14 Dead Period

(ii) 05-27-14 thru 06-04-14 (noon) Dead Period

Evaluation Period - During high school regional and state championships competition that does not occur during a dead period.




Softball Recruiting Rules:
As a Sophomore in high school:


Recruiting Material

•You may receive brochures for camps and questionnaires.
Telephone Calls

•You can call the coach at your own expense.
•Coach cannot call you.
Off-Campus Contact

•Not Permitted
Official Visits

•Not Permitted
Unofficial Visits

•Unlimited

As a Junior in High School:

Recruiting Material

•You can begin to receive recruiting material and information from the coach on September 1st.
Telephone Calls

•You can call the coach at your own expense.
•You can receive one per week starting July 1st after your Junior year.
•Telephone calls are unlimited during contact periods.
Off-Campus Contact

•Allowed July 1st after your Junior year.
Official Visits

•Not Permitted
Unofficial Visits

•Unlimited

As a Senior in high school:

Recruiting Material

•You can receive material and information from the coach
Telephone Calls

•You can call the coach at your own expense.
•Coach can call you once per week starting July 1st.
•Telephone calls are unlimited during contact periods.
Off-Campus Contact

•Allowed but no more than 3 times.
Official Visits

•You can start official visits on the opening day of your classes.
•You get one per college and a maximum of 5 visits to D1, and unlimited visits to D2, D3 and NAIA schools.
Unofficial visits

•Unlimited

Other important information:

•College coaches have 50 days in which to evaluate you. They cannot exceed that number.
•College coaches can evaluate and/or contact you no more than 7 times during your senior year.
•During your senior year a college coach cannot contact you more than 3 times.



Click Here for more NCAA recruiting info for Softball - including:

•Division 2 softball recruiting info
•Softball scholarship stats
•Softball scholarship help
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/02/14 04:39 PM

A college coach can and will call the travel coach to invite a student athlete on campus for an unofficial visit. Once on campus the college coach can speak to an athlete before their junior year and make a verbal offer.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/02/14 04:51 PM

Lol. Small organizations are ok. But if they don't have a track record they are not the best option if you are truly looking for recruitment for your daughter. To give your daughter the best opportunity to be recruited by a school she wants to go to certain organizations will help those chances if she has talent. The recruitment timeline is so fast. As much as a coach is a nice guy, if he has no experience or has a daughter on that team he will be looking out for his daughter first. If you don't believe that you are kidding yourself.

Most larger D1s are wrapping up with 2016 now. Some have even finished with 2017 already.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/02/14 05:03 PM

The truth is the majority of Long Island girls will play D2/D3 or not play at all. Nothing is wrong with that if they want that. Look for a good fit academically. If it's D2 you may be able to get some financial assistance. If you have good grades you can get more financial assistance.

With the cost of college D1 is attractive because they typically have more athletic money. D2's may be able to assist with more academic money so get those grades.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/02/14 05:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
A verbal committment is only a agreement. if either person changes there mind nothing happens. When you sign the letter of INTENT early in NOV or April on NSD then you are locked into that school. so verbal means nothing. Most schools honor it because they dont want a bad reputation if they cancel.

so verbal means nothing. Most schools honor it because they dont want a bad reputation if they cancel.

This is what is commonly referred to as a WTF.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/02/14 06:19 PM

There are very few full scholarships in softball no matter what people say. Stop expecting that to happen. Consider your daughter lucky if she can get $15-$20K per year in academic/athletic money and get to play at any level at a nice school and get an education. Big $$ scholarships are few and far between.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/02/14 08:00 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
A college coach can and will call the travel coach to invite a student athlete on campus for an unofficial visit. Once on campus the college coach can speak to an athlete before their junior year and make a verbal offer.



What does a verbal offer entail? Do they tell you how much money they can offer?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/03/14 05:44 AM

how is anyone giving wrong information from big organizations?? Your huge post is a cut and paste of the ncaa rules. I quit! If anyone believes that 17s and 18s are not verbally committed right now, and that verbal committments mean "nothing" good luck to you. Why did I even bother?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/05/14 07:25 AM

a verbal means zero! College abc says i love your dd who is in 9th grade and we verbally commit to her, but your dd play falls off or abc college find a better player, do you think your dd will still be wanted? Guys wake up
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/05/14 11:05 AM

Yeah guys wake up!! Oh boy, ummmmmm a verbal does not mean zero! Your ridiculous post means zero, because it is wrong and harmful to legit players. Again good luck everyone, wish your daughter's well. It is a long stressful process best begin early , and my 2016 is about to verbal, but that means zero. Keep spreading false info it thins out the competition.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/05/14 03:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
a verbal means zero! College abc says i love your dd who is in 9th grade and we verbally commit to her, but your dd play falls off or abc college find a better player, do you think your dd will still be wanted? Guys wake up


WOW, JUST WOW! The nay sayers are the ones whose daughters have never experienced the process because they aren't talented enough to speak from experience.
Verbals are honored because if not then the credibility of college ABC would be ruined and effect their future recruiting efforts therefore making them non-competitive. The player may lose her money after her first year if unsuccessful or receive a diminished amount but rarely do they lose it before then. Of course it can happen but it rarely does. The misinformation given out on some of these posts are emotionally driven and should be given zero credence. Go to a college camp or two and ask the coaches for yourself and after you have attended a few of these colleges then and only then corroborate your findings and you will find a common denominator. Good Luck.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/06/14 01:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
a verbal means zero! College abc says i love your dd who is in 9th grade and we verbally commit to her, but your dd play falls off or abc college find a better player, do you think your dd will still be wanted? Guys wake up


Winning quote of this thread. Lol. Probably an Xtreme parent.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/06/14 04:14 PM

Have to admit that is some business they have going on over there at team li and they must have some sales pitch.
It's never been more obvious that it's all about the money over there now.
Trying to establish multiple teams at the different levels, which they never have done in past years, bringing in players and signing them up and promising the college exposure while guaranteeing some, yes that's right guaranteeing parents and the player if they come to team li they will be signed!

Not to mention a lot of these players would never have made a team li team of years past. They are watering down their teams and there is no hiding from that, sign up as many as you can and fill those pockets with everyone’s cash.

They always said team li was a well respected organization, but the last few years that has been changing especially with things they have done.
The constant calling and contacting of other teams players, even after being told they are not interested. Sending instructors who they have hired to coach a team in their org behind the scenes as they know they were working with other players and teams from other organizations, all so they can recruit players to come over.

We know the contacting thing takes place and no issue there but to go about it this way is just wrong no matter how you look at it. Promising personal one on one time with the man with wings and halo over his head, just to have a kid come play for your organization, wow talk about living life through young athletes.

It's amazing how blind some parents are. There are several teams that could have done what team li did this summer, go to Ohio and get beat pretty bad especially in that one game ouch!
Or go to CA because their heads are so swollen and they think they are a lot better than they really are, another wake up call for them, oh yes don't forget about the success stories as well.

Those much better 14a tournaments in NJ where they beat up on '00 and '01 teams, but won the trophy! Great run at Pony Nationals where the competition wasn't so good, just check the scores.

Oh yes and the Team NJ "Futures" tournament where it's "invite" only which happens to be affiliated with team li, so of course they are going, give me a break and of course got a nice draw as well.

When they finally played up in a 16u in NJ they were one and done on Sunday!
But we all know that nobody plays better competition, tournaments, or on the better fields at showcases, gets the most players recruited, has the best teams, best training, best coaches, players, parents, uniforms, equipment then team li!

How could we not know this they constantly remind us on here day in and day out. Those who are the best do not need to say it all the time and try to convince others of it.

You say it so much because you want to believe it but that's a sign of your insecurity!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/07/14 10:00 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Have to admit that is some business they have going on over there at team li and they must have some sales pitch.
It's never been more obvious that it's all about the money over there now.
Trying to establish multiple teams at the different levels, which they never have done in past years, bringing in players and signing them up and promising the college exposure while guaranteeing some, yes that's right guaranteeing parents and the player if they come to team li they will be signed!

Not to mention a lot of these players would never have made a team li team of years past. They are watering down their teams and there is no hiding from that, sign up as many as you can and fill those pockets with everyone’s cash.

They always said team li was a well respected organization, but the last few years that has been changing especially with things they have done.
The constant calling and contacting of other teams players, even after being told they are not interested. Sending instructors who they have hired to coach a team in their org behind the scenes as they know they were working with other players and teams from other organizations, all so they can recruit players to come over.

We know the contacting thing takes place and no issue there but to go about it this way is just wrong no matter how you look at it. Promising personal one on one time with the man with wings and halo over his head, just to have a kid come play for your organization, wow talk about living life through young athletes.

It's amazing how blind some parents are. There are several teams that could have done what team li did this summer, go to Ohio and get beat pretty bad especially in that one game ouch!
Or go to CA because their heads are so swollen and they think they are a lot better than they really are, another wake up call for them, oh yes don't forget about the success stories as well.

Those much better 14a tournaments in NJ where they beat up on '00 and '01 teams, but won the trophy! Great run at Pony Nationals where the competition wasn't so good, just check the scores.

Oh yes and the Team NJ "Futures" tournament where it's "invite" only which happens to be affiliated with team li, so of course they are going, give me a break and of course got a nice draw as well.

When they finally played up in a 16u in NJ they were one and done on Sunday!
But we all know that nobody plays better competition, tournaments, or on the better fields at showcases, gets the most players recruited, has the best teams, best training, best coaches, players, parents, uniforms, equipment then team li!

How could we not know this they constantly remind us on here day in and day out. Those who are the best do not need to say it all the time and try to convince others of it.

You say it so much because you want to believe it but that's a sign of your insecurity!




Well said!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/07/14 11:33 AM

That was some email. While I can agree with some of what you said, noone can deny a program for running it the way they want to run it. There are many different programs out there that are there to provide an appropriate environment for kids of different talent levels and interest to play the game. Why criticize tli for doing what they do and doing it well. Their program attempts to be an Elite program and place kids on college rosters. This is a business with no loyalty and comes at a cost. They are not the only program on LI with this goal.

On the flip side, I know other programs that hold themselves out as 'B' programs and are great programs in their own right - providing a friendly place for kids to compete and have fun too.

And all this recruiting talk is crazy. The kids must love all this pressure you are putting on them at 14 yrs old, hanging on every at bat, every inning pitched. All for what? A scholarship so you as a parent don't have to step up and pay for their education.

I hope your kids are not playing for this reason or for you as parents. I leave you with a Mia Hamm quote which always helps me stay grounded with my kids and their sports:

Somewhere behind the athlete you've become and the hours of practice and the coaches who have pushed you is a little girl who fell in love with the game and never looked back... play for her.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/07/14 02:13 PM

You can't blame TLI. I don't think they do anything wrong. The younger teams win a lot. The showcase teams are in the better showcases on the better fields. The gold team plays teams like RI Thunder, Inferno on the main fields where coaches come. Who wouldn't want that for their kid if they wanted to play in college. The name recognition to college coaches is somewhat better also. If parents want to pay to have their kids on the 2nd or 3rd team, that's their own decision.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/07/14 04:24 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
That was some email. While I can agree with some of what you said, noone can deny a program for running it the way they want to run it. There are many different programs out there that are there to provide an appropriate environment for kids of different talent levels and interest to play the game. Why criticize tli for doing what they do and doing it well. Their program attempts to be an Elite program and place kids on college rosters. This is a business with no loyalty and comes at a cost. They are not the only program on LI with this goal.

On the flip side, I know other programs that hold themselves out as 'B' programs and are great programs in their own right - providing a friendly place for kids to compete and have fun too.

And all this recruiting talk is crazy. The kids must love all this pressure you are putting on them at 14 yrs old, hanging on every at bat, every inning pitched. All for what? A scholarship so you as a parent don't have to step up and pay for their education.

I hope your kids are not playing for this reason or for you as parents. I leave you with a Mia Hamm quote which always helps me stay grounded with my kids and their sports:

Somewhere behind the athlete you've become and the hours of practice and the coaches who have pushed you is a little girl who fell in love with the game and never looked back... play for her.



Can agree with some of what you wrote but the player should always be taught to play for the player and her teammates. My take and what I have heard is team li is concerened about a couple of organizations getting noticed out of state and they do not like that. They don't like other teams being mentioned above them, so what they do is promise them the world along with a free ride and let other parents pay for it. Thats how they get them to come over to their team and that is a fact and no hiding from it. They don't care just want the money at the end of the day their pockets are full regardless if player gets signed or not.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/07/14 05:47 PM

I'm not sure why people get upset about talking about what puts your daughter in the best position to gain a scholarship if that is in fact what they want. My 2016 recently made a verbal commitment and what some say here is true. The organization matters.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/08/14 04:47 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I'm not sure why people get upset about talking about what puts your daughter in the best position to gain a scholarship if that is in fact what they want. My 2016 recently made a verbal commitment and what some say here is true. The organization matters.


Congratulations. That is great and I happy for your daughter. But what really matters are her grades. Keep studying girls. Not many softball jobs out there after college.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/08/14 11:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I'm not sure why people get upset about talking about what puts your daughter in the best position to gain a scholarship if that is in fact what they want. My 2016 recently made a verbal commitment and what some say here is true. The organization matters.


Congratulations. That is great and I happy for your daughter. But what really matters are her grades. Keep studying girls. Not many softball jobs out there after college.


Amen... to that... someone gets it
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/09/14 05:20 AM

This is a softball forum. Talking about using softball to help someone play in college should be expected as normal. Of course it's about the education.

College isn't cheap. If a young woman can use softball to help her get into a school and maybe pay some of the tuition doing something she loves more power to her.

There are ways to give your daughter a better chance in achieving that goal which most on here don't like to hear. One is the organization. The organization does matter when attempting to get recruited and get money to play in college. To the daddy ballers going through this now - you are doing your players and families an injustice by leading them down that path of no name showcases on bad fields with no coaches showing up. It probably should have ended after 14U.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/09/14 06:07 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I'm not sure why people get upset about talking about what puts your daughter in the best position to gain a scholarship if that is in fact what they want. My 2016 recently made a verbal commitment and what some say here is true. The organization matters.


Congratulations. That is great and I happy for your daughter. But what really matters are her grades. Keep studying girls. Not many softball jobs out there after college.


So very true. This is such a small and sometimes insignificant part of your daughters lives. Enjoy it for what it is. Stop comparing your daughter to others, it silly on your part. Make your decisions based on what is best for your daughter, your family (time and money). But if you think that I hope my daughter gets $10k from little known-divsion III to play softball in snowy upstate and your daughter goes to NYU to study micr-biology you have your priorities messed up. This part of travel softball is just a part of the make up to develop my daughter in to a better more well rounded person.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/09/14 02:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
This is a softball forum. Talking about using softball to help someone play in college should be expected as normal. Of course it's about the education.

College isn't cheap. If a young woman can use softball to help her get into a school and maybe pay some of the tuition doing something she loves more power to her.

There are ways to give your daughter a better chance in achieving that goal which most on here don't like to hear. One is the organization. The organization does matter when attempting to get recruited and get money to play in college. To the daddy ballers going through this now - you are doing your players and families an injustice by leading them down that path of no name showcases on bad fields with no coaches showing up. It probably should have ended after 14U.

If you have a specific complaint about a team you have knowledge of please share but don't make a general statement about just about all teams who are coached by a father, you have no idea what is going on with these teams
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/10/14 09:45 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I'm not sure why people get upset about talking about what puts your daughter in the best position to gain a scholarship if that is in fact what they want. My 2016 recently made a verbal commitment and what some say here is true. The organization matters.


Congratulations. That is great and I happy for your daughter. But what really matters are her grades. Keep studying girls. Not many softball jobs out there after college.


So very true. This is such a small and sometimes insignificant part of your daughters lives. Enjoy it for what it is. Stop comparing your daughter to others, it silly on your part. Make your decisions based on what is best for your daughter, your family (time and money). But if you think that I hope my daughter gets $10k from little known-divsion III to play softball in snowy upstate and your daughter goes to NYU to study micr-biology you have your priorities messed up. This part of travel softball is just a part of the make up to develop my daughter in to a better more well rounded person.


The trend that I'm noticing here is the belittling of the talents of those parents DD who post on this site. And after seeing 100's of softball games over the years I understand the mindset of where you all are coming from. Your girls just aren't good enough for you to understand what it's like to be a Division 1 athlete. You can't understand what it's like to have a daughter who is highly talented at the game of softball and all the pros (and cons) that come along with it. So what you do instead is bash the few (and there are ONLY a few) on Long Island that are talented enough to experience it . The talented Girls will go to a good school, they will play Division 1 softball and they will have most if not all of their college paid for. Along the way, they will travel to places they would not have gone to as regular students. They will be treated like gold. They will get to make their schedules before the rest of the student body. They will be provided with tutors specifically assigned to their team. They will learn how to juggle their time management between softball and their academics. They will automatically be part of a family and not have to search for friends with common interests. These are just a few of the perks that come with the territory. So rather then bash the few and the proud talented softball players from Long Island, maybe try to embrace them and be proud that they are from a place where you grew up and cheer them on. Jealousy is the root of all evils on this board.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/10/14 09:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I'm not sure why people get upset about talking about what puts your daughter in the best position to gain a scholarship if that is in fact what they want. My 2016 recently made a verbal commitment and what some say here is true. The organization matters.


Congratulations. That is great and I happy for your daughter. But what really matters are her grades. Keep studying girls. Not many softball jobs out there after college.


So very true. This is such a small and sometimes insignificant part of your daughters lives. Enjoy it for what it is. Stop comparing your daughter to others, it silly on your part. Make your decisions based on what is best for your daughter, your family (time and money). But if you think that I hope my daughter gets $10k from little known-divsion III to play softball in snowy upstate and your daughter goes to NYU to study micr-biology you have your priorities messed up. This part of travel softball is just a part of the make up to develop my daughter in to a better more well rounded person.


The trend that I'm noticing here is the belittling of the talents of those parents DD who post on this site. And after seeing 100's of softball games over the years I understand the mindset of where you all are coming from. Your girls just aren't good enough for you to understand what it's like to be a Division 1 athlete. You can't understand what it's like to have a daughter who is highly talented at the game of softball and all the pros (and cons) that come along with it. So what you do instead is bash the few (and there are ONLY a few) on Long Island that are talented enough to experience it . The talented Girls will go to a good school, they will play Division 1 softball and they will have most if not all of their college paid for. Along the way, they will travel to places they would not have gone to as regular students. They will be treated like gold. They will get to make their schedules before the rest of the student body. They will be provided with tutors specifically assigned to their team. They will learn how to juggle their time management between softball and their academics. They will automatically be part of a family and not have to search for friends with common interests. These are just a few of the perks that come with the territory. So rather then bash the few and the proud talented softball players from Long Island, maybe try to embrace them and be proud that they are from a place where you grew up and cheer them on. Jealousy is the root of all evils on this board.


What a tool...
Parents of real D1's never post.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/11/14 10:49 AM

You just proved the point of that post. On the Flip Side, parents of girls playing college intramural pick up games ALWAYS post. Haha
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/11/14 02:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
The trend that I'm noticing here is the belittling of the talents of those parents DD who post on this site. And after seeing 100's of softball games over the years I understand the mindset of where you all are coming from. Your girls just aren't good enough for you to understand what it's like to be a Division 1 athlete. You can't understand what it's like to have a daughter who is highly talented at the game of softball and all the pros (and cons) that come along with it. So what you do instead is bash the few (and there are ONLY a few) on Long Island that are talented enough to experience it . The talented Girls will go to a good school, they will play Division 1 softball and they will have most if not all of their college paid for. Along the way, they will travel to places they would not have gone to as regular students. They will be treated like gold. They will get to make their schedules before the rest of the student body. They will be provided with tutors specifically assigned to their team. They will learn how to juggle their time management between softball and their academics. They will automatically be part of a family and not have to search for friends with common interests. These are just a few of the perks that come with the territory. So rather then bash the few and the proud talented softball players from Long Island, maybe try to embrace them and be proud that they are from a place where you grew up and cheer them on. Jealousy is the root of all evils on this board.

Obviously another TLI parent know it all. Stop living through your daughter. I would rather have her get a REAL education than all of that bs.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/13/14 07:43 PM

If u want your daughter to play in college stick to the name brand orgs that have been doing it. If u don't then just find a place she is happy with. Ideally u can have both.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/14/14 08:40 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
You just proved the point of that post. On the Flip Side, parents of girls playing college intramural pick up games ALWAYS post. Haha


Like you just did... haha
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/15/14 07:14 AM

Are you people out of your minds with some of your posts.
Are you adults or kids posting here.

I googled something for long island baseball (I am a 13u coach) and was directed to this site.

From reading some of these posts here, it would appear as if its adults posting, yet the posts are so stupid that I cant believe there is this type of a forum.

You all should be embarrassed if you posted something negative.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/15/14 12:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
If u want your daughter to play in college stick to the name brand orgs that have been doing it. If u don't then just find a place she is happy with. Ideally u can have both.


This is good advice for those looking to play in college. If your dd will sit the bench on those types of travel orgs then she probably wont be playing in college.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/15/14 03:53 PM

My oldest is playing D1. My 2nd won't play softball in college. I'm posting.

The thing that helped my eldest was a combination of everything. Grades. Being on the right team at the right time. Working harder than everyone she knew. Emailing coaches. Going to camps. Grades. Figuring out what advice was good and what was bad. grades. It's true that coaches have a hard time making it out to your game if you aren't on the main complex. There are really only a few showcases that coaches go to in Northeast. Everything else is just local schools that may go to that showcase. If they even go. A travel coach (dad or not) who knows what he is doing is a big help especially if you haven't gone through it before. It's all about covering all angles if you want to increase the chance of success. Even then... That may not be enough.

My eldest worked very hard to go to her dream school. She was relentless in making that happen for herself. Good luck!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/15/14 09:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
My oldest is playing D1. My 2nd won't play softball in college. I'm posting.

The thing that helped my eldest was a combination of everything. Grades. Being on the right team at the right time. Working harder than everyone she knew. Emailing coaches. Going to camps. Grades. Figuring out what advice was good and what was bad. grades. It's true that coaches have a hard time making it out to your game if you aren't on the main complex. There are really only a few showcases that coaches go to in Northeast. Everything else is just local schools that may go to that showcase. If they even go. A travel coach (dad or not) who knows what he is doing is a big help especially if you haven't gone through it before. It's all about covering all angles if you want to increase the chance of success. Even then... That may not be enough.

My eldest worked very hard to go to her dream school. She was relentless in making that happen for herself. Good luck!



Good for you. Don't need your advice here pal. We can do it our way.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/17/14 08:14 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
My oldest is playing D1. My 2nd won't play softball in college. I'm posting.

The thing that helped my eldest was a combination of everything. Grades. Being on the right team at the right time. Working harder than everyone she knew. Emailing coaches. Going to camps. Grades. Figuring out what advice was good and what was bad. grades. It's true that coaches have a hard time making it out to your game if you aren't on the main complex. There are really only a few showcases that coaches go to in Northeast. Everything else is just local schools that may go to that showcase. If they even go. A travel coach (dad or not) who knows what he is doing is a big help especially if you haven't gone through it before. It's all about covering all angles if you want to increase the chance of success. Even then... That may not be enough.

My eldest worked very hard to go to her dream school. She was relentless in making that happen for herself. Good luck!



Good for you. Don't need your advice here pal. We can do it our way.


This just shows it doesn't pay to try to help people. He has insight that he was sharing for everyone. Thank you for the advice!!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/18/14 08:19 AM

It's been going on for ages. Feeling better about yours by knocking down the guy/gal next door, next team, etc.

Every now n again you'll read a post that is actually helpful. Which is the reason to keep coming back

Side note " Stanya grandfather " or however they listed you. Our girls have played yours may times over the years and will say that you sir are a class act.


Bashers begin........... Now....
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/18/14 09:59 AM

I appreciate your insight. It was very good. Who cares for the jerk who says we know what we are doing. You parents are all nuts - Everyone knows everything.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/18/14 11:13 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
If u want your daughter to play in college stick to the name brand orgs that have been doing it. If u don't then just find a place she is happy with. Ideally u can have both.


This is good advice for those looking to play in college. If your dd will sit the bench on those types of travel orgs then she probably wont be playing in college.


I think you are forgetting about the daddy ball situations here. Never put your kid on a team if the coaches daughter plays the same position as your daughter. It will save you lots of headache.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/19/14 06:10 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
If u want your daughter to play in college stick to the name brand orgs that have been doing it. If u don't then just find a place she is happy with. Ideally u can have both.


This is good advice for those looking to play in college. If your dd will sit the bench on those types of travel orgs then she probably wont be playing in college.


I think you are forgetting about the daddy ball situations here. Never put your kid on a team if the coaches daughter plays the same position as your daughter. It will save you lots of headache.


You are correct that is the best advice I have ever heard here. It is so true.
the best advice I would give to the father coach stop coaching you one side view towards your daughter compared to the rest of your team is off that it will ruin your daughter. She has no idea what the competition of winning a spot is about because she has been given everything to by you.

And please don't think that we all believe of "I am tougher on my own daughter then the rest of the team".
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/19/14 07:12 AM

I was speaking to a college coach yesterday who went to see a player. Once she realized the dad was also the head coach she crossed that player off the list.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/19/14 07:31 AM

Absolutely 100 percent untrue
Admin, please see if this is the same guy who is making multiple untrue posts and ban him! Just reading between the lines it looks like the same troll....

A college coach will look at SKILL and grades. A father coaching cannot take away or give his or her daughter their skills. They can favor a kid, but hopefully not in most situations.

If the skill is there the coach will notice.

Please look up the IP address for post numbers:
52061
52037
51973
51963
51892
51856
51974
52028
52062
52065
I may be incorrect, but I minored in English in college. The writing style in those posts are all very similar. What bothers me is that the posts are contradictory.

There is not a college coach anywhere who would write off a player simply because her dad was the coach.



Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I was speaking to a college coach yesterday who went to see a player. Once she realized the dad was also the head coach she crossed that player off the list.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/19/14 07:49 AM

It is good there are a lot of travel organizations out there. It helps some of us who haven't been through it with decisions. Forums are good for discussion and you can take what you read in it as true or false. Make your own informed decision.

I suspect some are afraid of what will happen when parents realize what is best for their dd, isn't the best for everyone else.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/19/14 07:53 AM

Then you don't know college coaches. If a player is on the bubble, daddy being the coach doesn't help.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/19/14 08:08 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I was speaking to a college coach yesterday who went to see a player. Once she realized the dad was also the head coach she crossed that player off the list.


This is absolutely untrue. I have talked to multiple college coaches about this topic and they all said it would not impact their decision on a kid. If you don't believe that just email any college coach, most will answer within a few days
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/19/14 08:17 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I was speaking to a college coach yesterday who went to see a player. Once she realized the dad was also the head coach she crossed that player off the list.


This is absolutely untrue. I have talked to multiple college coaches about this topic and they all said it would not impact their decision on a kid. If you don't believe that just email any college coach, most will answer within a few days


do you think daddy being the coach helps? If it does, does your child plays the same position as the daddy coach help your kid? The truth is daddy coaches will push their kid to a college coach first. I have no problem with that. That's just how it is.
Posted by: admin

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/19/14 08:19 AM

We don't think that you guys want us posting details about who posts what around here,
HOWEVER
that being said, just a few general comments that I'm sure will not offend anybody:

Many people post comments either "against" or "for" teams, either their own or others, under the same IP address. This doesn't necessarily indicate that its the same person, but it does indicate the same household. The motives of being on both sides of the fence regarding a team or organization are unknown to us. We will leave that to speculation.

Many times, people from the same IP address make comments on both sides of the fence regarding "daddy coaches" or "paid coaches", etc, and the benefits, or lack of benefits of being on a known team.

Our conclusion, not knowing who anyone is, or their motivations?

Make up your own mind after doing your own due diligence.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/19/14 08:49 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I was speaking to a college coach yesterday who went to see a player. Once she realized the dad was also the head coach she crossed that player off the list.


This is absolutely untrue. I have talked to multiple college coaches about this topic and they all said it would not impact their decision on a kid. If you don't believe that just email any college coach, most will answer within a few days


I don't know if a college coach will be %100 honest about their opinion when speaking to a coach about their child. Nor do I think they want to speak to a dad about their kid.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/19/14 08:52 AM

I'm not a forensic writing expert but I'm pretty sure this is a dad coach.

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Absolutely 100 percent untrue
Admin, please see if this is the same guy who is making multiple untrue posts and ban him! Just reading between the lines it looks like the same troll....

A college coach will look at SKILL and grades. A father coaching cannot take away or give his or her daughter their skills. They can favor a kid, but hopefully not in most situations.

If the skill is there the coach will notice.

Please look up the IP address for post numbers:
52061
52037
51973
51963
51892
51856
51974
52028
52062
52065
I may be incorrect, but I minored in English in college. The writing style in those posts are all very similar. What bothers me is that the posts are contradictory.

There is not a college coach anywhere who would write off a player simply because her dad was the coach.



Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I was speaking to a college coach yesterday who went to see a player. Once she realized the dad was also the head coach she crossed that player off the list.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/19/14 03:24 PM

Maybe I'm wrong but I believe most college coaches will not ignore a parent when recruiting their child whether or not it happens to be a travel team coach.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/19/14 08:13 PM

What if they post from a library or restaurant?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/20/14 06:09 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Maybe I'm wrong but I believe most college coaches will not ignore a parent when recruiting their child whether or not it happens to be a travel team coach.


agreed, get good grades, want to play, have talent. a coach will take that kid over the backup 2nd base who plays for an softball mill.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/20/14 08:21 AM

Anybody have any insight on the Storm Academy travel organization?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/20/14 10:14 AM

Put yourself in the position of a college coach and imagine trying to speak to a travel coach about a player... and that player is the players dad. The player is on the bubble... do you think speaking to the dad about the player is the most objective view you can get? Is it the opinion you really want to hear?

Lots of college coaches use travel coaches as their filter for players. Many established travel coaches will be honest about the players abilities to college coaches because they need these coaches to continue to trust them if they want to continue to be successful in placing players in schools. Can a dad coach be that honest to a college coach about his own daughter if that is the school she really wants? Even worse, the dad coach may also undersell their daughter, because they don't want to seem bias. It's a lose lose scenario either way.

College coaches may only have the chance to see a player play in a game only once or twice. If the player has a bad game or makes no plays, some travel coaches will let the coach know what they can expect out of that player. If you are a college coach who would you want to hear from? The dad coach? Or hopefully an objective coach?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/20/14 11:09 AM

You have got WAY TOO MUCH TIME on your hands.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/20/14 06:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Put yourself in the position of a college coach and imagine trying to speak to a travel coach about a player... and that player is the players dad. The player is on the bubble... do you think speaking to the dad about the player is the most objective view you can get? Is it the opinion you really want to hear?

Lots of college coaches use travel coaches as their filter for players. Many established travel coaches will be honest about the players abilities to college coaches because they need these coaches to continue to trust them if they want to continue to be successful in placing players in schools. Can a dad coach be that honest to a college coach about his own daughter if that is the school she really wants? Even worse, the dad coach may also undersell their daughter, because they don't want to seem bias. It's a lose lose scenario either way.

College coaches may only have the chance to see a player play in a game only once or twice. If the player has a bad game or makes no plays, some travel coaches will let the coach know what they can expect out of that player. If you are a college coach who would you want to hear from? The dad coach? Or hopefully an objective coach?


1-So you are saying that the Father/Coach will overrate his own daughter so she can go to a situation where she is doomed to fail.

Or

2-The Father/Coach will undersell his daughter so she will be unable to go to a situation where she may reach her full potential.

Wow....sounds like you had a bad experience somewhere!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/21/14 09:48 PM

The best way to get recruited is to figure out which schools that offer an academic match. Then figure out which ones the student athlete can realistically play at. Then pick the best known organization that will play at showcases they will likely go to. If that isn't possible go to every camp that school offers. Meet the coach. You should know pretty quickly if they are interested or not. if you can't tell ask them.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/29/14 08:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
The best way to get recruited is to figure out which schools that offer an academic match. Then figure out which ones the student athlete can realistically play at. Then pick the best known organization that will play at showcases they will likely go to. If that isn't possible go to every camp that school offers. Meet the coach. You should know pretty quickly if they are interested or not. if you can't tell ask them.


Hahahhahahahahaha. Too funny pal.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/01/14 11:23 PM

When you hear about all these commitments... does anyone ever wonder maybe they are on the wrong travel team?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/02/14 05:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
The best way to get recruited is to figure out which schools that offer an academic match. Then figure out which ones the student athlete can realistically play at. Then pick the best known organization that will play at showcases they will likely go to. If that isn't possible go to every camp that school offers. Meet the coach. You should know pretty quickly if they are interested or not. if you can't tell ask them.


Comments like this do not belong here. They are logical, concise and informative. This is a place to bash, critic and hind.

Thanks.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/03/14 09:22 AM

Agreed. And when can you begin to seek out schools that match? When can you contact schools to gauge your interest level in them and vice versa? If softball girls are getting verbals in beginning of sophomore year (or earlier) for D1, are they making campus visits as early as freshman year of HS? Seems early to plan that far ahead out but may be true.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/03/14 09:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Agreed. And when can you begin to seek out schools that match? When can you contact schools to gauge your interest level in them and vice versa? If softball girls are getting verbals in beginning of sophomore year (or earlier) for D1, are they making campus visits as early as freshman year of HS? Seems early to plan that far ahead out but may be true.


If your player is really good then start in 8th grade. How do you know if she is that good? If she is the best player in Long Island and maybe NY then yes. Start then.

The girls getting d1 verbals as freshman or sophs are on top travel teams. They are likely very talented and it isn't a secret to who they are. Everyone in the area knows them. They are easily googled chronicling whatever achievements they may have had. They will probably earn all county, all state honors as freshman/sophs.

The rest of us mere mortals can take a little more time but sophomore year is probably the right time for everyone except the truly elite player.

They can start looking at what schools they might be interested in. Look at D2. With good grades small private schools usually have more academic money with some athletic. And the focus is more on school than athletics.

Good luck.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/04/14 08:21 AM

Thanks for the post. Very helpful. I agree that grades are a big key as schools can be more creative with money if a player can play and has great grades.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/04/14 01:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
The best way to get recruited is to figure out which schools that offer an academic match. Then figure out which ones the student athlete can realistically play at. Then pick the best known organization that will play at showcases they will likely go to. If that isn't possible go to every camp that school offers. Meet the coach. You should know pretty quickly if they are interested or not. if you can't tell ask them.


Comments like this do not belong here. They are logical, concise and informative. This is a place to bash, critic and hind.

Thanks.


I am an English major and agree. The original post does not belong here. Only those bashing a team and promoting their own team somehow should be allowed.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/04/14 06:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Agreed. And when can you begin to seek out schools that match? When can you contact schools to gauge your interest level in them and vice versa? If softball girls are getting verbals in beginning of sophomore year (or earlier) for D1, are they making campus visits as early as freshman year of HS? Seems early to plan that far ahead out but may be true.


If your player is really good then start in 8th grade. How do you know if she is that good? If she is the best player in Long Island and maybe NY then yes. Start then.

The girls getting d1 verbals as freshman or sophs are on top travel teams. They are likely very talented and it isn't a secret to who they are. Everyone in the area knows them. They are easily googled chronicling whatever achievements they may have had. They will probably earn all county, all state honors as freshman/sophs.

The rest of us mere mortals can take a little more time but sophomore year is probably the right time for everyone except the truly elite player.

They can start looking at what schools they might be interested in. Look at D2. With good grades small private schools usually have more academic money with some athletic. And the focus is more on school than athletics.

Good luck.


Good points, thanks
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/04/14 06:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Agreed. And when can you begin to seek out schools that match? When can you contact schools to gauge your interest level in them and vice versa? If softball girls are getting verbals in beginning of sophomore year (or earlier) for D1, are they making campus visits as early as freshman year of HS? Seems early to plan that far ahead out but may be true.


If your player is really good then start in 8th grade. How do you know if she is that good? If she is the best player in Long Island and maybe NY then yes. Start then.

The girls getting d1 verbals as freshman or sophs are on top travel teams. They are likely very talented and it isn't a secret to who they are. Everyone in the area knows them. They are easily googled chronicling whatever achievements they may have had. They will probably earn all county, all state honors as freshman/sophs.

The rest of us mere mortals can take a little more time but sophomore year is probably the right time for everyone except the truly elite player.

They can start looking at what schools they might be interested in. Look at D2. With good grades small private schools usually have more academic money with some athletic. And the focus is more on school than athletics.

Good luck.


Good points, thanks
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/15/14 06:58 AM

I am at camp this weekend. It has some really good instruction. Would recommend to anyone.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/16/14 12:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I am at camp this weekend. It has some really good instruction. Would recommend to anyone.


Which one ?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/16/14 03:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I am at camp this weekend. It has some really good instruction. Would recommend to anyone.


What camp?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/18/14 12:38 PM

Riseball camp
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/24/14 12:59 PM

Does anyone know anything about these "diamond" teams?? there are a lot. Who's legit?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/24/14 10:20 PM

Originally Posted By: Fastpitch Junkie
That’s a difficult question to ask on an Anonymous forum such as this because you do not know who is responding and if they have an agenda or not. So for what it’s worth here is how I would answer your question. I believe it depends more on your daughter’s age and what you are looking to achieve.

At the younger ages, it is not so as much about the Organization as it is about the coach of the team you are looking to play for. I have seen some of the top Organizations have teams that fail and some of the lower no name Organizations succeed at a team level primarily because of the coach who runs that team.

Younger ages need to be all about teaching and developing player skill sets. In doing so, a Coach needs to makes it fun and enjoyable for the kids. This will keep kids engaged and ensure that a player’s love for the sport continues to grow.

When it comes time for your daughter to play at the 18U level it most likely because she has interested in playing softball in college, so now it becomes more about recruiting. At this point the Organization you play for becomes a bigger part of your decision. You now need to get your daughter in an Organization that has developed a strong name and track record for placing kids into college.

Understand that College coaches want to talk to Travel Ball Coaches that understand what it takes to play softball in college. It is for this reason that it just about impossible for a father run team to get your daughter recruited. So at this point, finding the right Organization with a coach that has developed relationships with College Coaches to help get your kid recruited.


Fastpitch junkie gives the most helpful information on this board.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/25/14 03:23 PM



Fastpitch junkie gives the most helpful information on this board. [/quote]



I agree. Would love to know his background?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/25/14 10:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Does anyone know anything about these "diamond" teams?? there are a lot. Who's legit?


Haven't heard of any "diamond" teams. Are you talking about softball?
Posted by: Fastpitch Junkie

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/28/14 10:30 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous


Fastpitch junkie gives the most helpful information on this board.




I agree. Would love to know his background? [/quote]

Lets just say that I have been involved with Fastpitch softball for many years and have gone through all with regards to coaching and recruiting. I always been about one thing and that is the girls and giving them the best opportunity to grow and develop into the best that they can be. Winning is a great thing, but at the end of the day, its about getting girls recruited who want to play in college, so I will only submit posts that are positive and factual in nature. Hopefully they can demystify the complex world of fastpitch softball and the recruiting process and give you answers to the many questions you have. Good Luck!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/03/14 06:56 AM

For all travel orgs that want to try to get into the showcase game, sign up for the Team NJ / ROCK Fastpitch Challenge Cup this summer. If you win or get runner up in your bracket you will get a bid into TeamNJ for the next year. Not anyone gets into TeamNJ.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/04/14 08:24 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
For all travel orgs that want to try to get into the showcase game, sign up for the Team NJ / ROCK Fastpitch Challenge Cup this summer. If you win or get runner up in your bracket you will get a bid into TeamNJ for the next year. Not anyone gets into TeamNJ.


Fastpitch Junkie - is Team NJ a good showcase?
Posted by: Fastpitch Junkie

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/05/14 09:36 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
For all travel orgs that want to try to get into the showcase game, sign up for the Team NJ / ROCK Fastpitch Challenge Cup this summer. If you win or get runner up in your bracket you will get a bid into TeamNJ for the next year. Not anyone gets into TeamNJ.


Fastpitch Junkie - is Team NJ a good showcase?


It it is the premier showcase on the east coast. It draws teams from across the U.S. Teams come from Ca, Tx, Fl etc to get in front of many East Coast college coaches. But it is just about impossible to get into unless you are a known organization.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/05/14 04:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Fastpitch Junkie
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
For all travel orgs that want to try to get into the showcase game, sign up for the Team NJ / ROCK Fastpitch Challenge Cup this summer. If you win or get runner up in your bracket you will get a bid into TeamNJ for the next year. Not anyone gets into TeamNJ.


Fastpitch Junkie - is Team NJ a good showcase?


It it is the premier showcase on the east coast. It draws teams from across the U.S. Teams come from Ca, Tx, Fl etc to get in front of many East Coast college coaches. But it is just about impossible to get into unless you are a known organization.



Triple Crown Sports Nationals attracts teams from the same states too.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/07/14 05:56 PM

The signs if you are a D1 athlete.


http://www.ncsasports.org/blog/2014/11/16/3-signs-reality-about-di-athletes/
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/13/14 03:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous


This article is about most kids on long island
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/16/14 02:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous


This article is about most kids on long island


You mean signs if you are NOT a D1 athlete.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 06/17/15 03:20 PM

Originally Posted By: Fastpitch Junkie
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
For all travel orgs that want to try to get into the showcase game, sign up for the Team NJ / ROCK Fastpitch Challenge Cup this summer. If you win or get runner up in your bracket you will get a bid into TeamNJ for the next year. Not anyone gets into TeamNJ.


Fastpitch Junkie - is Team NJ a good showcase?


It it is the premier showcase on the east coast. It draws teams from across the U.S. Teams come from Ca, Tx, Fl etc to get in front of many East Coast college coaches. But it is just about impossible to get into unless you are a known organization.


This is the truth. I tried to get in as early as I could for this year and it was full. It was all about who you know. A bunch of BS if you ask me. We even offered to pay double.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 06/17/15 09:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Fastpitch Junkie
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
For all travel orgs that want to try to get into the showcase game, sign up for the Team NJ / ROCK Fastpitch Challenge Cup this summer. If you win or get runner up in your bracket you will get a bid into TeamNJ for the next year. Not anyone gets into TeamNJ.


Fastpitch Junkie - is Team NJ a good showcase?


It it is the premier showcase on the east coast. It draws teams from across the U.S. Teams come from Ca, Tx, Fl etc to get in front of many East Coast college coaches. But it is just about impossible to get into unless you are a known organization.


This is the truth. I tried to get in as early as I could for this year and it was full. It was all about who you know. A bunch of BS if you ask me. We even offered to pay double.


So obviously you are not one of those "known organization " and you even insult Team NJ by offering to pay double. Bunch of BS ? but you wanted to be part of it? No short cuts, brother.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 06/18/15 05:38 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Fastpitch Junkie
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
For all travel orgs that want to try to get into the showcase game, sign up for the Team NJ / ROCK Fastpitch Challenge Cup this summer. If you win or get runner up in your bracket you will get a bid into TeamNJ for the next year. Not anyone gets into TeamNJ.


Fastpitch Junkie - is Team NJ a good showcase?


It it is the premier showcase on the east coast. It draws teams from across the U.S. Teams come from Ca, Tx, Fl etc to get in front of many East Coast college coaches. But it is just about impossible to get into unless you are a known organization.


This is the truth. I tried to get in as early as I could for this year and it was full. It was all about who you know. A bunch of BS if you ask me. We even offered to pay double.


No Daddy Ball allowed?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 06/18/15 08:02 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Fastpitch Junkie
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
For all travel orgs that want to try to get into the showcase game, sign up for the Team NJ / ROCK Fastpitch Challenge Cup this summer. If you win or get runner up in your bracket you will get a bid into TeamNJ for the next year. Not anyone gets into TeamNJ.


Fastpitch Junkie - is Team NJ a good showcase?


It it is the premier showcase on the east coast. It draws teams from across the U.S. Teams come from Ca, Tx, Fl etc to get in front of many East Coast college coaches. But it is just about impossible to get into unless you are a known organization.


This is the truth. I tried to get in as early as I could for this year and it was full. It was all about who you know. A bunch of BS if you ask me. We even offered to pay double.


why is it bs? these tournaments have a obligation to the colleges to get the best teams with the best players so that the college coaches aren't wasting anyones time. truthfully it is bs that you want to pay more $$$ to get in - to me that is wrong that a team would get accepted based on the ability or willingness to pay as opposed to talent.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 06/18/15 02:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Fastpitch Junkie
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
For all travel orgs that want to try to get into the showcase game, sign up for the Team NJ / ROCK Fastpitch Challenge Cup this summer. If you win or get runner up in your bracket you will get a bid into TeamNJ for the next year. Not anyone gets into TeamNJ.


Fastpitch Junkie - is Team NJ a good showcase?


It it is the premier showcase on the east coast. It draws teams from across the U.S. Teams come from Ca, Tx, Fl etc to get in front of many East Coast college coaches. But it is just about impossible to get into unless you are a known organization.


This is the truth. I tried to get in as early as I could for this year and it was full. It was all about who you know. A bunch of BS if you ask me. We even offered to pay double.


Unfortunately you will find that many of the better showcases will only accept certain organizations. Even if you can get in to the showcase, there is also a hierarchy as to who will play in the main fields.

The few NY accepted were:
Conklin Raiders
Team LI
Frozen Ropes Force (upstate)
TC Tremors
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 06/19/15 06:08 AM

This is the truth. I tried to get in as early as I could for this year and it was full. It was all about who you know. A bunch of BS if you ask me. We even offered to pay double. [/quote]

why is it bs? these tournaments have a obligation to the colleges to get the best teams with the best players so that the college coaches aren't wasting anyones time. truthfully it is bs that you want to pay more $$$ to get in - to me that is wrong that a team would get accepted based on the ability or willingness to pay as opposed to talent.[/quote]

Really! How can you bitch and complain that a showcase has a criteria and standard of selecting teams and player to best see them against equal talent? And then you think it is OK to buy your way in with more money! Is that how your daughter got her Suffolk selection to All-World by buying her HS a gift certificate?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 06/19/15 08:30 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Fastpitch Junkie
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
For all travel orgs that want to try to get into the showcase game, sign up for the Team NJ / ROCK Fastpitch Challenge Cup this summer. If you win or get runner up in your bracket you will get a bid into TeamNJ for the next year. Not anyone gets into TeamNJ.


Fastpitch Junkie - is Team NJ a good showcase?


It it is the premier showcase on the east coast. It draws teams from across the U.S. Teams come from Ca, Tx, Fl etc to get in front of many East Coast college coaches. But it is just about impossible to get into unless you are a known organization.


This is the truth. I tried to get in as early as I could for this year and it was full. It was all about who you know. A bunch of BS if you ask me. We even offered to pay double.


You should have shown them all the tournaments you have one and then maybe they will see what an asset your team will be to the showcase.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 06/19/15 03:24 PM

and actually angel gets 2 teams in
his young team and galati is there
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 06/22/15 11:25 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
and actually angel gets 2 teams in
his young team and galati is there


They have the monopoly on entry into those tournaments for long island teams. It really doesn't give our girls with talent many other options.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 06/22/15 04:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
and actually angel gets 2 teams in
his young team and galati is there


They have the monopoly on entry into those tournaments for long island teams. It really doesn't give our girls with talent many other options.


Maybe you should figure out a way to get your organization close to the organizer or the event. Quit playing tickey tack tournaments and be prepared for real competition. Assuming you are an organization not a just a travel team.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 06/23/15 09:46 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
and actually angel gets 2 teams in
his young team and galati is there


They have the monopoly on entry into those tournaments for long island teams. It really doesn't give our girls with talent many other options.


Individual girls are also welcome to many of these show cases - however they have to hook up with a team - not so easy - but if you aren't TLI or now TCT good look.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 06/23/15 05:05 PM

TCT?? , just stop, D-1 Long Island whoopeeeeeeee, D-2 Pennsylvania kick their butt, take your Long Island glasses off. Lots of really good players out there.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 06/23/15 06:58 PM

Just for fun go to the NJ Intensity web site click on college commitments. Then come back a tell everyone how great any Long Island Organization is. They currently have 2 2019 committed to D-1 schools, Florida and Missouri. Read the 15 and 16s, not many LI Colleges there my friends, so please stop with this nonsense you just show your ignorance, TLI this TCT that, hahaha. Yeah OK, go try out for the Intensity!!!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 06/26/15 06:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Just for fun go to the NJ Intensity web site click on college commitments. Then come back a tell everyone how great any Long Island Organization is. They currently have 2 2019 committed to D-1 schools, Florida and Missouri. Read the 15 and 16s, not many LI Colleges there my friends, so please stop with this nonsense you just show your ignorance, TLI this TCT that, hahaha. Yeah OK, go try out for the Intensity!!!


they might not be able to compete with those out of state organizations every game, but as far as quality players coaching and organizations nobody on li competes with ti, no one!!! and as an up and come tct-li has the name the players and coaching, thats all
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 06/26/15 11:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Just for fun go to the NJ Intensity web site click on college commitments. Then come back a tell everyone how great any Long Island Organization is. They currently have 2 2019 committed to D-1 schools, Florida and Missouri. Read the 15 and 16s, not many LI Colleges there my friends, so please stop with this nonsense you just show your ignorance, TLI this TCT that, hahaha. Yeah OK, go try out for the Intensity!!!


How many girls in your Daddy Ball team are verballed? I thought so.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 06/27/15 02:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Just for fun go to the NJ Intensity web site click on college commitments. Then come back a tell everyone how great any Long Island Organization is. They currently have 2 2019 committed to D-1 schools, Florida and Missouri. Read the 15 and 16s, not many LI Colleges there my friends, so please stop with this nonsense you just show your ignorance, TLI this TCT that, hahaha. Yeah OK, go try out for the Intensity!!!


This has to be dumbest comment ever in this forum!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 06/29/15 08:30 AM

Ok Daddy from TLI or TCT, truth stings, ouch. Keep writing those checks, and do yourself a favor, stop wearing sweatshirts and t shirts with the team name on it, please.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 06/30/15 10:43 AM

You should stop wearing your teams as well! Really
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 06/30/15 11:21 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Ok Daddy from TLI or TCT, truth stings, ouch. Keep writing those checks, and do yourself a favor, stop wearing sweatshirts and t shirts with the team name on it, please.


Have another Miller Lite booze bag
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/01/15 08:32 AM

NO Daddies it's fine, you're girls are the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just ask each other, you will tell each other you're the best!!!!! Yeah man that's right TLI all the way, man TCT baby we da best!! Nobody compares, (except all those other kids). You guys are the people we all talk about. You know who we are, we are the parents of the real athletes!!! Booze bag?? Really? Booze bag, Miller lite? thats from like the 1980s,. What you guys gonna do when your kid graduates goes to a Long Island school and you have nothing do. Bruce has you guys nailed, glory days boy she could throw that speed ball by you glory days, My kids the best, no mine is, no mine is, I just wrote a check she is the best, no mine..................
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/01/15 12:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Ok Daddy from TLI or TCT, truth stings, ouch. Keep writing those checks, and do yourself a favor, stop wearing sweatshirts and t shirts with the team name on it, please.


Another incite full post by the inebriated imbicile from the Island.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/13/15 02:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
NO Daddies it's fine, you're girls are the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just ask each other, you will tell each other you're the best!!!!! Yeah man that's right TLI all the way, man TCT baby we da best!! Nobody compares, (except all those other kids). You guys are the people we all talk about. You know who we are, we are the parents of the real athletes!!! Booze bag?? Really? Booze bag, Miller lite? thats from like the 1980s,. What you guys gonna do when your kid graduates goes to a Long Island school and you have nothing do. Bruce has you guys nailed, glory days boy she could throw that speed ball by you glory days, My kids the best, no mine is, no mine is, I just wrote a check she is the best, no mine..................

I'd say TLI is a good place for that really really good player. If you arent that really really good player then you should look elsewhere. If your DD is just ok, she will likely sit the bench and you will complain about why your DD isnt getting a fair deal. When in reality there is probably someone else better in her spot, unless its a TLI coaches kid who plays the same position as your DD, then you are totally screwed even if your dd is a really good player. But to be fair, thats with all teams. Don't put your kid on a team where the coaches kids plays the same position as yours.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/14/15 03:09 PM

The problem with being in a weak showcase is that college coaches know they are weak showcases.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/15/15 10:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
The problem with being in a weak showcase is that college coaches know they are weak showcases.


Which local showcases would you consider weak? And which ones are good?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/16/15 04:38 PM

what orgnizations are having tryouts this month? looking for 16u team.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/21/15 10:49 AM

It seem that everyone is having there tryouts August 8th and 9th. That is so player can't try out for other teams. There are a few at the end of July The Crush is July 28th The chiefs is July 31st, L.I. Surge is July 28th and 29th. Go to the Web site of who ever you want to try out for. Just remember to ask questions. Make sure DD finds a team that the coaches DD isn't playing her position. Check out The 18u team and college commitments. Just my opinion if I was to rank organizations it would be 1) TLI (might be too much money but you get what you pay for) 2)The Crush ( Only problem roster change daily and coaches like to yell daddy ball). 3) L.I.Surge Hasn't been around long but like female coaches and NO DADDY BALL. 4)Chiefs Have there own fields,and in door hitting play in a lot of tournament and won't break the bank. 5)L.I Express been around long time and seem to have very little drama. 6) Ducks fastpitch again Female coaches but will cost a lot and haven't been around long weak teams at best. 7)Sudden Impact has own facility teams on every level,a lot of money not sure if you will get what you pay for. 8) Chargers been around a long time nothing special. 9) L.I.Bandits, Same thing been around a long time nothing special poorly run to much money.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/21/15 06:38 PM

At the showcase age, the travel organization should match your student-athlete and families goals.

If you truly have a D1 skilled athlete, TeamLI or going off the island would be in your student-athlete's best interest (RI Thunder, Intensity, inferno, etc). They are in the highest exposure tournaments and have relationships with college coaches who know the organization. If she isn't a D1 skilled athlete then you don't need to be on Team LI.

Play on the other top 10 or so organizations on long island that fit whatever your needs are.

Just look at the top exposure teams schedule is and you will know what the best exposure tournaments are. Look at the commitments of their players. Those are the types of schools they get exposure to and the type of coaches that attend their games/practices. Same with most organizations. Look at the commitments of past players. That is the type of school they have access to. If its a new organization... good luck. Unless they can get into the main tournaments they probably don't know what they are doing or if they eventually earn their way in... your DD will have graduated already and not reaped the benefits of it. good luck!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/22/15 08:15 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
It seem that everyone is having there tryouts August 8th and 9th. That is so player can't try out for other teams. There are a few at the end of July The Crush is July 28th The chiefs is July 31st, L.I. Surge is July 28th and 29th. Go to the Web site of who ever you want to try out for. Just remember to ask questions. Make sure DD finds a team that the coaches DD isn't playing her position. Check out The 18u team and college commitments. Just my opinion if I was to rank organizations it would be 1) TLI (might be too much money but you get what you pay for) 2)The Crush ( Only problem roster change daily and coaches like to yell daddy ball). 3) L.I.Surge Hasn't been around long but like female coaches and NO DADDY BALL. 4)Chiefs Have there own fields,and in door hitting play in a lot of tournament and won't break the bank. 5)L.I Express been around long time and seem to have very little drama. 6) Ducks fastpitch again Female coaches but will cost a lot and haven't been around long weak teams at best. 7)Sudden Impact has own facility teams on every level,a lot of money not sure if you will get what you pay for. 8) Chargers been around a long time nothing special. 9) L.I.Bandits, Same thing been around a long time nothing special poorly run to much money.



Are the Tremors having tryouts? Adding more teams?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/23/15 10:10 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
It seem that everyone is having there tryouts August 8th and 9th. That is so player can't try out for other teams. There are a few at the end of July The Crush is July 28th The chiefs is July 31st, L.I. Surge is July 28th and 29th. Go to the Web site of who ever you want to try out for. Just remember to ask questions. Make sure DD finds a team that the coaches DD isn't playing her position. Check out The 18u team and college commitments. Just my opinion if I was to rank organizations it would be 1) TLI (might be too much money but you get what you pay for) 2)The Crush ( Only problem roster change daily and coaches like to yell daddy ball). 3) L.I.Surge Hasn't been around long but like female coaches and NO DADDY BALL. 4)Chiefs Have there own fields,and in door hitting play in a lot of tournament and won't break the bank. 5)L.I Express been around long time and seem to have very little drama. 6) Ducks fastpitch again Female coaches but will cost a lot and haven't been around long weak teams at best. 7)Sudden Impact has own facility teams on every level,a lot of money not sure if you will get what you pay for. 8) Chargers been around a long time nothing special. 9) L.I.Bandits, Same thing been around a long time nothing special poorly run to much money.


I find this list discouraging....as a parent of a child who may need to find a new team but doesn't want the drama of TLI but could most definitely play at that level where should you go? How do you play for a NJ team and live in NY? Does anyone have any experience do that that they can share?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/23/15 12:19 PM

Looks like TLI did pretty well at nationals at all ages. How did everyone else do?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/24/15 05:48 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
It seem that everyone is having there tryouts August 8th and 9th. That is so player can't try out for other teams. There are a few at the end of July The Crush is July 28th The chiefs is July 31st, L.I. Surge is July 28th and 29th. Go to the Web site of who ever you want to try out for. Just remember to ask questions. Make sure DD finds a team that the coaches DD isn't playing her position. Check out The 18u team and college commitments. Just my opinion if I was to rank organizations it would be 1) TLI (might be too much money but you get what you pay for) 2)The Crush ( Only problem roster change daily and coaches like to yell daddy ball). 3) L.I.Surge Hasn't been around long but like female coaches and NO DADDY BALL. 4)Chiefs Have there own fields,and in door hitting play in a lot of tournament and won't break the bank. 5)L.I Express been around long time and seem to have very little drama. 6) Ducks fastpitch again Female coaches but will cost a lot and haven't been around long weak teams at best. 7)Sudden Impact has own facility teams on every level,a lot of money not sure if you will get what you pay for. 8) Chargers been around a long time nothing special. 9) L.I.Bandits, Same thing been around a long time nothing special poorly run to much money.


I find this list discouraging....as a parent of a child who may need to find a new team but doesn't want the drama of TLI but could most definitely play at that level where should you go? How do you play for a NJ team and live in NY? Does anyone have any experience do that that they can share?


At the showcase level it's usually one practice a week in winter on a Sunday. There are no practices during season. Just tournaments. Some teams have kids from all different states. It's not uncommon.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/24/15 08:04 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
The problem with being in a weak showcase is that college coaches know they are weak showcases.


Which local showcases would you consider weak? And which ones are good?


TRUTHFULLY MOST OF THEM ARE WEAK OR ADD LITTLE VALUE TO YOUR DAUGHTERS RESUME. TRAVEL TEAMS THAT GO TO NJ, CT, MA, VA EVERY WEEKEND GET LITTLE COLLEGE VALUE BUT SHOULD GET SOME NICE STATE BUMPERSTICKERS, CREDIT CARD POINTS AND SOMETHING FOR THEIR KID TO WRITE ABOUT ONCE THEY GO BACK TO SCHOOL WHEN THEIR TEACHER ASKS "WHAT'D YOU DO THIS SUMMER"
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/24/15 09:51 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
It seem that everyone is having there tryouts August 8th and 9th. That is so player can't try out for other teams. There are a few at the end of July The Crush is July 28th The chiefs is July 31st, L.I. Surge is July 28th and 29th. Go to the Web site of who ever you want to try out for. Just remember to ask questions. Make sure DD finds a team that the coaches DD isn't playing her position. Check out The 18u team and college commitments. Just my opinion if I was to rank organizations it would be 1) TLI (might be too much money but you get what you pay for) 2)The Crush ( Only problem roster change daily and coaches like to yell daddy ball). 3) L.I.Surge Hasn't been around long but like female coaches and NO DADDY BALL. 4)Chiefs Have there own fields,and in door hitting play in a lot of tournament and won't break the bank. 5)L.I Express been around long time and seem to have very little drama. 6) Ducks fastpitch again Female coaches but will cost a lot and haven't been around long weak teams at best. 7)Sudden Impact has own facility teams on every level,a lot of money not sure if you will get what you pay for. 8) Chargers been around a long time nothing special. 9) L.I.Bandits, Same thing been around a long time nothing special poorly run to much money.


I find this list discouraging....as a parent of a child who may need to find a new team but doesn't want the drama of TLI but could most definitely play at that level where should you go? How do you play for a NJ team and live in NY? Does anyone have any experience do that that they can share?


All teams have drama. Most more than others. Don't get convinced by these know it alls about tli. Now that ypu mentioned that your daughter has that talent to play with them. Go try out and see for yourself. You owe it yo your daughter to place her in a situation to succeed. Drama is human nature. These people who deny their daughter the chance to play for a good team are nuts. All they say here is based on hearsay.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/24/15 11:23 AM

Drama of TLI?? all teams have it some more then others. It can be done but commute can be long but you do what you have to do for your DD. Go to as many tryouts as you can, good luck
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/25/15 03:22 PM

sometimes the most painful thing is admitting your daughter is not as good as the coaches kid. Makes it easier for you to justify that you DD needs to move on. You can always find a place to showcase your daughter. May not be the place you want to. But there is a coach out there that will tell you what you want to hear. Just proof that it is not all about you DD. It has a lot to do with backing up all that crap you are spewing out to anyone with an ear. It will all be over soon and then you can find a new battle to fight.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/04/15 06:32 AM

I spoke to a college coach about recruiting after NE finest. The person who hands out fliers can either make or kill a kids chances of recruitment. Some teams are much better at it than others. I won't name names but it's something to pay attention to as a parent.

When you wonder why you aren't on the main fields and why no college coaches hang around your team it might be because they don't have any idea what this team is or who the coach is.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/04/15 10:24 AM

Playing for the right travel team can have a huge impact on a players recruiting. It seems travel teams are conducting tryouts for the next year and this summer has not even ended yet. So what is the right travel team?

Finding the right fit in a travel team requires asking yourself some questions.

1) What are you looking for in a college?
If you want to go out of state to a college, then you need to play on a travel team that plays in tournaments where colleges you want to be seen by will attend. Seems obvious but if you want to be seen by certain colleges then you need to go to them as they will often times not come to you.

2) How competitive an environment do you want?
If you want to play at the top level of softball such as the SEC conference then you need to play for a team where players with those same aspirations play. These kinds of travel teams compete in national level tournaments where teams have players that have the same goals. When I was at Division 1, I wanted to see how recruits performed against players who also wanted to play at Division 1.

3) How much are you willing to spend?
To play on a top level travel team usually requires travel. Not just to tournaments but often times to practice as well. Playing for a local team that goes to local tournaments will be much less expensive.
Top level travel organizations such as the Gold Coast Hurricanes out of Florida an organization I have worked with for many years, will have players from many states not just Florida. They send most of their players off to Top 25 programs. But this is not the right choice for everyone. If your goal is to stay local and a non Division 1 environment is what you are looking for then a local travel team will be the best fit for you.

4) What is the coach’s style of coaching?
Some players thrive with certain types of coaches. Ask around and see what people say about the coach and his/her style and see if it fits what your daughter wants.
Finding the right travel team is a two way street. While you feel a certain team is a good fit for you, it may be the case that they are not looking for your position. While going through the tryout phase it is advisable to tryout for more than one team to have options. A travel will not help you get recruited if you do not get to play.

Don’t be afraid to ask questions.
1) What is the teams intended schedule for the upcoming season?
2) Where did they play last season?
3) What is the cost? And how is it paid (in one lump sum, monthly payments?)
4) What is included in the team cost?
5) Is there any team fundraising? Does the team have a not-for-profit status? This helps with donations.

Remember, a team may tell you they want to play a very competitive schedule but often times a new team will find it hard to break into the top tournaments. So if a team did not play in a certain high level tournament last summer there is no guarantee they will get in nest summer. The top level showcases can be very hard to get into.

I think a player can get recruited off any team but playing for certain travel teams definitely helps the process. A team with the reputation of being a top program in an area will give a boost to a player’s visibility in the recruiting process. If you do not play on one of these teams then it falls on you to be more proactive in the recruiting process.

Admin's Comment:
Thank you for this very helpful post.
What also needs to be mentioned is the purpose of all of this, the college education. The college a person attends will have far more influence for a real career than making it to the SEC or ACC championship. Also, to my knowledge, there is no market for a professional softball player, with a sustainable salary.

That being said, sometimes its best to think of the next 40 years, rather than the next 4 years.

Ask the parents of some of the D1, D2, or D3 girls from 5-7 years ago. Who is now doing better financially?

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/04/15 04:53 PM

Admins comments are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ON!! READ AND RE READ!!!

No one will care when you are 25 what level softball you played in college. The name on the diploma is what counts.

With that said, yeah a D-1 school may be an awesome degree, it may also be a BS school that no one cares about.

In turn a D-2/3 school may carry a better name and a better experience for your daughter. Seriously, no offense but go to Central Connecticut (D-1) Dowling (D-2) or Geneseo (D-3). I take Geneseo in a second.

Keep your scholarship. Its usually only a partial anyway.

Make sure she fits academically, athletically and socially before you sign. Why go D-1 and sit on the bench, work your tail off, struggle to keep up academically at a BS D-1 school, when she can go 2 or 3 play, have fun good education where she can actually improve, make great friends and actually ENJOY college.

There are dozens of horror stories from D-1 players, look up URI softball coach for example, don't get me wrong D-3 and D-2 have lunatics also.

Its HER future not for you to brag about, don't be that guy that forced a kid into a program because of the number after the D. Good luck to all who listen and really good luck if you think I am ill informed
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/05/15 05:53 AM

Folk that couldn't have been said any better. Find a place that fits for your daughter now and in the future. Look at organization that have a 18u gold team and 18u elite team and look at the show cases they have been in over the last four years. This is very hard. do your homework and let the girls have fun now and let them figure out what they want to be and find the right school for them. softball comes third on the list of important things. Family & friend, School, softball.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/05/15 07:55 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Admins comments are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ON!! READ AND RE READ!!!

No one will care when you are 25 what level softball you played in college. The name on the diploma is what counts.

With that said, yeah a D-1 school may be an awesome degree, it may also be a BS school that no one cares about.

In turn a D-2/3 school may carry a better name and a better experience for your daughter. Seriously, no offense but go to Central Connecticut (D-1) Dowling (D-2) or Geneseo (D-3). I take Geneseo in a second.

Keep your scholarship. Its usually only a partial anyway.

Make sure she fits academically, athletically and socially before you sign. Why go D-1 and sit on the bench, work your tail off, struggle to keep up academically at a BS D-1 school, when she can go 2 or 3 play, have fun good education where she can actually improve, make great friends and actually ENJOY college.

There are dozens of horror stories from D-1 players, look up URI softball coach for example, don't get me wrong D-3 and D-2 have lunatics also.

Its HER future not for you to brag about, don't be that guy that forced a kid into a program because of the number after the D. Good luck to all who listen and really good luck if you think I am ill informed


Great advice... but this is still a softball forum. Why does anyone who gives advice on how to reach higher for softball get criticized? Maybe your "top" is not someone else's idea of "top". Maybe some kids can actually have a great D1 experience and a terrible D3 experience.

You are right. There is no career after college softball. That is why if they can, they should try to play where they want to. The softball career is so short. Too short to waste away in a bad softball program for some kids who have thee talent and desire to play a higher level of softball.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/05/15 12:20 PM

GREAT ADD ON ADMIN.....SPOT ON.... This D1- D2- D3 in my opinion is mostly about the parent and not the girl. If you did your job right as a parent, the ride ( scholarship) should not matter.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/05/15 02:14 PM

Interesting thoughts but I have to agree with the Admin's rare comment about this stuff.
I don't think anyone is criticizing having a D1 experience. What is being said is that a D1 experience hopefully is not the main goal of all of this.
The 4years vs 40year stuff makes sense.
Alumni networks are big and school names still matter. A school name opens up far more doors for LIFE, than playing shortstop for an SEC team.
And as far as having a bad D3 experience, here is no pressure to stay due to finances. Just leave the team, continue studying, and step into a great job, grad school, law school, or medical school upon graduation.

Somebody earlier asked a question that nobody answered yet. Ask a few girls and/or parents from 4 or 5 years ago how their careers are now. Did playing softball help or did their school choice play the biggest role?

Yes its a softball site but don't lose sight of it all. Check those red cups once in a while and stop drinking the D1 kool-aid.
Have your girl play where she wants to play but after the last out is made ask yourself whats her plan. Was the possible substandard education, just to say D1, worth it

...."""Great advice... but this is still a softball forum. Why does
anyone who gives advice on how to reach higher for softball get criticized? Maybe your "top" is not someone else's idea of "top". Maybe some kids can actually have a great D1 experience and a terrible D3 experience.

You are right. There is no career after college softball. That is why if they can, they should try to play where they want to. The softball career is so short. Too short to waste away in a bad softball program for some kids who have thee talent and desire to play a higher level of softball""""....
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/05/15 05:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Admins comments are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ON!! READ AND RE READ!!!

No one will care when you are 25 what level softball you played in college. The name on the diploma is what counts.

With that said, yeah a D-1 school may be an awesome degree, it may also be a BS school that no one cares about.

In turn a D-2/3 school may carry a better name and a better experience for your daughter. Seriously, no offense but go to Central Connecticut (D-1) Dowling (D-2) or Geneseo (D-3). I take Geneseo in a second.

Keep your scholarship. Its usually only a partial anyway.

Make sure she fits academically, athletically and socially before you sign. Why go D-1 and sit on the bench, work your tail off, struggle to keep up academically at a BS D-1 school, when she can go 2 or 3 play, have fun good education where she can actually improve, make great friends and actually ENJOY college.

There are dozens of horror stories from D-1 players, look up URI softball coach for example, don't get me wrong D-3 and D-2 have lunatics also.

Its HER future not for you to brag about, don't be that guy that forced a kid into a program because of the number after the D. Good luck to all who listen and really good luck if you think I am ill informed


Great advice... but this is still a softball forum. Why does anyone who gives advice on how to reach higher for softball get criticized? Maybe your "top" is not someone else's idea of "top". Maybe some kids can actually have a great D1 experience and a terrible D3 experience.

You are right. There is no career after college softball. That is why if they can, they should try to play where they want to. The softball career is so short. Too short to waste away in a bad softball program for some kids who have thee talent and desire to play a higher level of softball.


Well said.

It is amazing the clarity parents get as their DD age and parents become more realistic about what this is all about.

I have no idea what direct my DD will go but 14 years from now I would so proud of her if she had a great college experience (anywhere), choose a excellent career path and had great friends as opposed to being the father that pushed her and made her best year being a walk off home run in a BS 16U showcase in bum-f*** PA.

The Kool Aide that is poured by some coaches and organizations and that is gulped down is pathetic to me. Parents please teach you children well (in everything-not just softball)
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/06/15 07:33 AM

Yes. You are all right. I'm sure all kids playing at the D1 level are miserable and will get bullsh** degrees on their useless partial scholarship. All kids going D3 will become doctors and lawyers and will be laughing at them 10 years from now as they try to scrape the pieces of their life together working at a Wendy's and wishing that they had gone D3. I hope Obamacare is still around for them.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/06/15 08:17 AM

I don't think anybody meant bullshit degrees.

I think what they mean is if there is a choice between a low academic level D1 and an extremely high level D3, the choice is clear.

Why saddle a girl with a D1 just so dad can say "my DD plays D1"

There are many girls who can do well at a D1 but there are many many who are misguided by parents into taking a D1 for the sake of D1 and not looking at the big picture.

Don't be an [***censored***].


Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Yes. You are all right. I'm sure all kids playing at the D1 level are miserable and will get bullsh** degrees on their useless partial scholarship. All kids going D3 will become doctors and lawyers and will be laughing at them 10 years from now as they try to scrape the pieces of their life together working at a Wendy's and wishing that they had gone D3. I hope Obamacare is still around for them.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/06/15 08:27 AM

same responder here
as far as Obamacare maybe your DD can come up with a better solution?

Unless you have lived without health insurance you can't relate to not getting even the most basic medical care.
Now, suddenly, people are able to see a doctor without going to the emergency room. Easy for you to criticize while you are covered by insurance from your job. Many people do not have the luxury that you have.

And its not ethnic like you want to believe in your Red Cup stupor. There are people from Smithtown to Dix Hills to West Islip who have medicaid managed care or Obamacare.

And if you are an employer, look in the mirror and ask yourself, do YOU pay for health insurance for your employees? Or, do ask them to get medicaid managed care because it costs you nothing, or Obamacare, for less money than traditional insurance. You know the answer.

On the other side of the fence finally the hospitals and docs who see people in the ER or Delivery Room can get reimbursed for the care they provide. Its not much but its something.

Imagine going to your job, whatever it is, and for one day per week you do your job, without pay, with 100 percent liability for what happens. That means possibly getting sued while providing FREE care.

This Obamacare stuff isn't perfect but few things in life are.

Read before you criticize. You will learn a lot.

Off the soapbox now.


Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Yes. You are all right. I'm sure all kids playing at the D1 level are miserable and will get bullsh** degrees on their useless partial scholarship. All kids going D3 will become doctors and lawyers and will be laughing at them 10 years from now as they try to scrape the pieces of their life together working at a Wendy's and wishing that they had gone D3. I hope Obamacare is still around for them.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/06/15 08:33 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
same responder here
as far as Obamacare maybe your DD can come up with a better solution?

Unless you have lived without health insurance you can't relate to not getting even the most basic medical care.
Now, suddenly, people are able to see a doctor without going to the emergency room. Easy for you to criticize while you are covered by insurance from your job. Many people do not have the luxury that you have.

And if you are an employer, look in the mirror and ask yourself, do YOU pay for health insurance for your employees? Or, do ask them to get medicaid managed care because it costs you nothing, or Obamacare, for less money than traditional insurance. You know the answer.

On the other side of the fence finally the hospitals and docs who see people in the ER or Delivery Room can get reimbursed for the care they provide. Its not much but its something.

Imagine going to your job, whatever it is, and for one day per week you do your job, without pay, with 100 percent liability for what happens. That means possibly getting sued while providing FREE care.

This Obamacare stuff isn't perfect but few things in life are.

Read before you criticize. You will learn a lot.

Off the soapbox now.


Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Yes. You are all right. I'm sure all kids playing at the D1 level are miserable and will get bullsh** degrees on their useless partial scholarship. All kids going D3 will become doctors and lawyers and will be laughing at them 10 years from now as they try to scrape the pieces of their life together working at a Wendy's and wishing that they had gone D3. I hope Obamacare is still around for them.



This ia such a dumb post! Of course its always the liberals who try to tell us how to live our lives. Get off this board and go to your local supermarket and argue your point. Shut up and move on.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/06/15 08:57 AM

Actually a Republican if you must ask but I can't be a hypocrite. I have neighbors who openly are against all of this [***censored***] but were the first on the list for obamacare.

I see you left this quote out......."And its not ethnic like you want to believe in your Red Cup stupor. There are people from Smithtown to Dix Hills to West Islip who have medicaid managed care or Obamacare. ".........

Why did you leave it out, it took some effort to do that type of editing. Is it striking a familiar tone?


Nobody tells anyone how to live their lives but even you my friend gets some type of subsidy.

You probably use a landscaper who uses illegal immigrants. If you are paying $40-$50 per week and not $90-$100 per week this is true.
Criticize the system but also contributing to it to save some cash? Ha!

DON'T KID YOURSELF!



"This ia such a dumb post! Of course its always the liberals who try to tell us how to live our lives. Get off this board and go to your local supermarket and argue your point. Shut up and move on."
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/06/15 10:42 AM

Softball site right, lets stick to softball in the end whether you or DD should pick the best school for her. Education and your ability to get a job should be your first prority since there is no MLB for softball so to speak.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/06/15 11:28 AM

So you are "that guy" buddy good luck, actually I wish your DD good luck. No one is saying that a D-1 degree is BS!! But you only see and read what you want to read and see. You are that Guy!! Everyone else got it. Yes a D-1 can be better than a D-1 you win we are all wrong and are now sorry.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/06/15 11:36 AM

I thought this was a baseball forum? Your OUT!!!!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/06/15 12:15 PM

Last I checked some top academic schools are also D1.

That is really what the thing is. If you want to play at that level and go to that type of school then you have to have grades and have the talent to be on the right type of team. If you want to go D3 high academic then you have to have grades and be on the type of team that caters to that.

I always laugh at those parents that complain about other kids going D1, saying its because their parents want it and forced them to, not them... lol... ok. I'm sure if it was up to the kids they would rather not play at a good school which happens to be D1 and choose some other "high academic" D3. Insert sarcasm font. Not everyone can play at a good academic school which may or may not be D1. and that is OK. But if your kid does happen to want to play at Notre Dame, UCLA, Stanford, UVA, UNC, etc. she will need grades, talent and the right travel team. Going to Blue Chip in Shamong, NCSA recruiting or one of the High Honors academic camps typically won't cut it.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/06/15 02:44 PM

Stay away from the Bandits as previously posted its is not just the head coach with an alcohol problem his asst head coach who is the worst with the alcohol she is also nuts. The whole organization is known for alcohol abuse. More importantly they get no respect from tourneys or colleges. He is a blowhard who lies to people. Every year people storm away from this organization just ask around or watch the games as coaches sit for a minute then pack up and leave I was told to leave the team if I wanted D2 as they are considered a very weak organization by colleges
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/07/15 11:11 AM

"Not everyone can play at a good academic school which may or may not be D1. and that is OK. But if your kid does happen to want to play at Notre Dame, UCLA, Stanford, UVA, UNC, etc. she will need grades, talent and the right travel team. Going to Blue Chip in Shamong, NCSA recruiting or one of the High Honors academic camps typically won't cut it."
Really? Insert sarcasm font. Would you happen to know the number of girls from Long Island playing for those 5 teams, or for that matter in say, the SEC? When you get that number understand what travel teams they came from, you may be surprised to know that some very prestigious LI Teams, insert sarcasm font, list girls on their web sites as coming from that LI Team, when, in fact may have been recruited from other teams, say an Intense NJ team, insert sarcasm font. You always laugh at people, well I laugh at people like you who make comments like my DD wants to play at Notre Dame, really I wanna win the Lotto, I may have a better shot
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/07/15 03:09 PM

that guy??? GOOD LUCK TO YOUR DD she can have her cake and eat it too. D1, Top school and lets hope a great job.... People need to get a grip let her play and have fun.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/07/15 04:32 PM

Poster: Anonymous
Subject: Re: Travel Organizations

Stay away from the Bandits as previously posted its is not just the head coach with an alcohol problem his asst head coach who is the worst with the alcohol she is also nuts. The whole organization is known for alcohol abuse. More importantly they get no respect from tourneys or colleges. He is a blowhard who lies to people. Every year people storm away from this organization just ask around or watch the games as coaches sit for a minute then pack up and leave I was told to leave the team if I wanted D2 as they are considered a very weak organization by colleges.


above poster, YOU ARE AN IDIOT. Your post makes NO SENSE.Open wide and swallow those sour grapes
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/07/15 05:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
"Not everyone can play at a good academic school which may or may not be D1. and that is OK. But if your kid does happen to want to play at Notre Dame, UCLA, Stanford, UVA, UNC, etc. she will need grades, talent and the right travel team. Going to Blue Chip in Shamong, NCSA recruiting or one of the High Honors academic camps typically won't cut it."
Really? Insert sarcasm font. Would you happen to know the number of girls from Long Island playing for those 5 teams, or for that matter in say, the SEC? When you get that number understand what travel teams they came from, you may be surprised to know that some very prestigious LI Teams, insert sarcasm font, list girls on their web sites as coming from that LI Team, when, in fact may have been recruited from other teams, say an Intense NJ team, insert sarcasm font. You always laugh at people, well I laugh at people like you who make comments like my DD wants to play at Notre Dame, really I wanna win the Lotto, I may have a better shot


Yes. Exactly. Almost no one will play/get recruited by those schools even with TLI, which no question gives the highest level of exposure on the island. They will have to go off the island if they aspire for SEC/ACC/Big 10, etc schools. But if they want to play at a SUNY or regional D1, TLI gives them the best chance to help them get recruited and some money to help them pay for school. Assuming of course the player has the talent and grades for those schools. If they don't then it really doesn't matter does it?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/07/15 07:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
"Not everyone can play at a good academic school which may or may not be D1. and that is OK. But if your kid does happen to want to play at Notre Dame, UCLA, Stanford, UVA, UNC, etc. she will need grades, talent and the right travel team. Going to Blue Chip in Shamong, NCSA recruiting or one of the High Honors academic camps typically won't cut it."
Really? Insert sarcasm font. Would you happen to know the number of girls from Long Island playing for those 5 teams, or for that matter in say, the SEC? When you get that number understand what travel teams they came from, you may be surprised to know that some very prestigious LI Teams, insert sarcasm font, list girls on their web sites as coming from that LI Team, when, in fact may have been recruited from other teams, say an Intense NJ team, insert sarcasm font. You always laugh at people, well I laugh at people like you who make comments like my DD wants to play at Notre Dame, really I wanna win the Lotto, I may have a better shot



So, you're saying that none of the girls (2 I think) that are playing for those high level teams were recruited while playing for a LI team?? What about Hofstra?? would you consider them a top D1 team, will my daughter need to play for a NJ team to be recruited there??
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/08/15 03:58 PM

Check NJ Intensity web site or speak to friends/families ask who they played for when signed
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/08/15 09:24 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Check NJ Intensity web site or speak to friends/families ask who they played for when signed


So NJ Intensity has a 1 player that plays at Mich, that TLI also has on their website. I also noticed that most of their players go to the same couple of schools from year to year. I guess every organization has relationships with certain schools & that's where most of their players end up. Seems Most TLI girls end up in the LI/New England area. I guess that's the relationship that TLI has, more local than national, & that's probably the talent level for most girls on LI. I'm sure the NJ team & TLI 18u cost about the same.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/09/15 06:14 PM

It's about $8K per year in fees to play for intensity (uniforms and helmet/bags etc. not included in fees). Add about $10-12k for travel. We just came from their facility. "The Ballpark". Pretty impressive. They told me my 12yo could go play in the SEC. Ok. Sell me a bridge also.

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/09/15 11:18 PM

Looks like another team bit the dust on The Bandits Website? What is going down with that organization??
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/10/15 07:13 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Looks like another team bit the dust on The Bandits Website? What is going down with that organization??


such a nice day yesterday, could have gone fishing, the beach, golfing or troll the computer to see if other teams added teams and players. thank you from all of use for doing what you do and reporting that to us. i guess you avoid any chance of skin cancer
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/10/15 09:32 PM

Tryouts seem light in some of the top orbs, while others have bigger turnouts. Why?? Is it the tryout fee of some or just so many teams on LI?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/12/15 07:34 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Tryouts seem light in some of the top orbs, while others have bigger turnouts. Why?? Is it the tryout fee of some or just so many teams on LI?


Crush Org. had nice turnout! How about others?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/12/15 08:12 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Tryouts seem light in some of the top orbs, while others have bigger turnouts. Why?? Is it the tryout fee of some or just so many teams on LI?


Only a few kids will make the top orgs. Maybe parents are just being realistic... or just don't want/need that type of team for their kid.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/12/15 01:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Tryouts seem light in some of the top orbs, while others have bigger turnouts. Why?? Is it the tryout fee of some or just so many teams on LI?


Crush Org. had nice turnout! How about others?


Suckers.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/12/15 02:59 PM

Crush needs players, half leave during the season for one reason or another. Where is dan and the chief going?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/12/15 03:25 PM

Hofstra? Well according to the college stats they have a 47% acceptance rate, thats not real selective, average ACT is 25, again not real high. My opinion an average school with a hefty price tag. Now, remember the neighborhood it is in, and think is my kid getting the real "college experience" at this school? As for softball, well look them up, see their stats in the NCAA playoffs, then each person can decide. Me? They can keep their 20K, Im not overpaying for an average school in a dangerous place thats a half hour from my house. Thats not college, thats 13th grade. But heck its D-1, whoopee,
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/13/15 11:55 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Hofstra? Well according to the college stats they have a 47% acceptance rate, thats not real selective, average ACT is 25, again not real high. My opinion an average school with a hefty price tag. Now, remember the neighborhood it is in, and think is my kid getting the real "college experience" at this school? As for softball, well look them up, see their stats in the NCAA playoffs, then each person can decide. Me? They can keep their 20K, Im not overpaying for an average school in a dangerous place thats a half hour from my house. Thats not college, thats 13th grade. But heck its D-1, whoopee,


I wish there was a "like" button on this page!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/13/15 02:20 PM

Seems like TLI is losing it shine, low turnouts at tryouts but big turnouts at crush, nitro, bluefire, surge, pride or is it the $$$ tryout fee. New season to begin
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/13/15 06:29 PM

crush has tryout fees also, dont understand why teams are charging these pathetic fees, should be embarrassed
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/13/15 07:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Seems like TLI is losing it shine, low turnouts at tryouts but big turnouts at crush, nitro, bluefire, surge, pride or is it the $$$ tryout fee. New season to begin


SOUNDS MORE LIKE PARENTS ARE GETTING MORE REALISTIC - WHAT WOULD YOUR DD TRYOUT FOR TLI - YOU HAVE TO KNOW THE TALENT LEVEL REQUIRED TO MAKE THE TEAM AND YOUR DD PROBABLY ISNT THERE - AND HONESTLY IF YOUR DD WAS THAT GOOD TLI WOULD KNOW ABOUT HER AND TLI WOULD HAVE REACHED OUT TO HER ALREADY - PLUS WHY MAKE A TRYOUT DONATION TO A TEAM THAT YOUR BASHING HERE WEEK AFTER WEEK?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/13/15 09:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Seems like TLI is losing it shine, low turnouts at tryouts but big turnouts at crush, nitro, bluefire, surge, pride or is it the $$$ tryout fee. New season to begin


Don't know what you are talking about low turnouts.

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/14/15 08:50 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Crush needs players, half leave during the season for one reason or another. Where is dan and the chief going?


Dan staying put. Crush provides good training and exposure to the best tournaments on and off LI.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/14/15 09:47 AM

What age is it too late to start the recruiting process? What is the right age?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/14/15 11:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Seems like TLI is losing it shine, low turnouts at tryouts but big turnouts at crush, nitro, bluefire, surge, pride or is it the $$$ tryout fee. New season to begin


If Go Crush!
Just Win Baby!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/16/15 05:38 AM

Lol Dan the man reads this site, will see it to believe it. Plenty of time from now till the first game for him to change his mind.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/16/15 11:29 AM

a person asks a legitimate question above and it cant even be answered? all you can do is continue to bash teams and coaches?i come here to get fastpitch info and 80% of the posts are juvenile bashing. give it a break its played out......... i believe the process starts as early as 8th grade and i dont think its ever too late to get recruited if shes that good. that is just my opinion hopefully someone with more knowledge than i will give their opinion.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/16/15 03:19 PM

You can't stop Dan THe Man, you can only hope to contain him!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/17/15 06:45 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Seems like TLI is losing it shine, low turnouts at tryouts but big turnouts at crush, nitro, bluefire, surge, pride or is it the $$$ tryout fee. New season to begin


All those teams you mentioned except TLi are all a step up from Little League. Maybe the parents and the DDs are not yet there in committing to a travel team. And i dont think pride should be with those teams that you mentioned. At least they (Pride) get kids into colleges.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/17/15 07:20 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
a person asks a legitimate question above and it cant even be answered? all you can do is continue to bash teams and coaches?i come here to get fastpitch info and 80% of the posts are juvenile bashing. give it a break its played out......... i believe the process starts as early as 8th grade and i dont think its ever too late to get recruited if shes that good. that is just my opinion hopefully someone with more knowledge than i will give their opinion.


I second. It is never to late for your DD to get recruited. Although you have to be in the right team to be noticed by the college coaches. There are very few organizations on LI that have established relationships with college coaches. It doesn't have to be D1. there are a few D2 teams that have excellent programs. Of course the team that everyone loves to bash over here, TLI has your DD's greatest chance of playing in college. Tryouts are over but it only takes one phone call.
If your DD is serious in playing in college and has the talent, and you are willing to back her up 100% ,then try to make that move.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/17/15 08:41 AM

Yeah, 12u TLI 2004 team only had 7 or 8 kids show if you aren't counting their current players who were there. Much less than expected, and after tryouts the coach was practically begging the parents of 2 LAC girls to agree to join TLI. I have heard they agreed to go. It was funny to see TLI have to use a sales pitch and make promises about positions and playing time to get players.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/17/15 03:51 PM

Who is Dan ???
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/17/15 04:18 PM

Begging parents to join? Really?
This is so comical.lol.

Enough with second and third hand information. At this point its called gossip.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/17/15 05:32 PM

Dan is a loser
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/18/15 07:54 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Who is Dan ???


There's a passage that I got memorized, seems appropriate for this situation: Ezekiel 25,17. "The path of the righteous man is beset of all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil me. Blessed is he who, in the name of the charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/18/15 10:19 AM

Yeah, why are we wasting our time discussing "Dan"? Isn't this a softball forum?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/18/15 10:35 AM

What is the general opinion about Pride? Are they a professionally run organization? How is their training, etc?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/18/15 11:32 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Who is Dan ???

If he were to visit the dark side of the moon, it wouldn't be dark.
He can kill two stones with one bird.
He once got pulled over for speeding, and the cop got the ticket.
He once made a weeping willow laugh.
His business card simply says 'I'll Call You".
He once taught a German shepherd how to bark in Spanish.
A bird in his hand is worth three in the bush.
If opportunity knocks, and he's not at home, opportunity waits.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/18/15 01:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Seems like TLI is losing it shine, low turnouts at tryouts but big turnouts at crush, nitro, bluefire, surge, pride or is it the $$$ tryout fee. New season to begin


SOUNDS MORE LIKE PARENTS ARE GETTING MORE REALISTIC - WHAT WOULD YOUR DD TRYOUT FOR TLI - YOU HAVE TO KNOW THE TALENT LEVEL REQUIRED TO MAKE THE TEAM AND YOUR DD PROBABLY ISNT THERE - AND HONESTLY IF YOUR DD WAS THAT GOOD TLI WOULD KNOW ABOUT HER AND TLI WOULD HAVE REACHED OUT TO HER ALREADY - PLUS WHY MAKE A TRYOUT DONATION TO A TEAM THAT YOUR BASHING HERE WEEK AFTER WEEK?


I highly doubt that TLI would reach out to you if your DD is talented. You probably need TLI more so why not reach out to them.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/18/15 01:22 PM

hes probably friends with Ed
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/18/15 01:39 PM

What happened to the Chargers?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/18/15 09:57 PM

Not sure what category this goes in but how bush league was the West coach for LL to throw the game to eliminate central? Karma!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/19/15 01:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What is the general opinion about Pride? Are they a professionally run organization? How is their training, etc?

Very good we'll run organization but still fairly new to the showcase game. So college coaches away from LI may not be familiar with them.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/19/15 02:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What is the general opinion about Pride? Are they a professionally run organization? How is their training, etc?



From what I know of - the answer is yes to all. Never hear bad things here about them anyway. Something to be said for that !!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/19/15 03:13 PM

Lac is LL travel team anything is a step up
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/19/15 05:48 PM

LI Chargers been around a long time but no younger teams below 14U so where do they get all their players from?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/20/15 07:02 AM

Is anyone familiar with the LI Express ? Based on their website, it seems that they send a lot of girls to college. Are they similar to TLI ?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/21/15 09:23 AM

What are the top things you expect and deserve from your travel team/coach?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/22/15 07:54 AM

Express is a real good organization. One of the first. Coaches don't have a horse in the race. They look out for all their players, and get them ready for the next level.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/22/15 05:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What are the top things you expect and deserve from your travel team/coach?

Practice time, respect, playing time
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/22/15 07:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What are the top things you expect and deserve from your travel team/coach?

Practice time, respect, playing time


What are your expectations? check all the Travel teams that you are considering and see what schools the kids in that organization make it to. What do you think your DD wants to do in college? D1 or D2 or D3. What is the level of your DD's commitment? What is your level of commitment ? There are so many teams that go to different showcases , check the colleges that go to those specific showcases. Most teams go to major showcases but never get to play in the main field where majority of the coaches are. The biggest clue to an organization is the amount of kids that verbal to colleges. This is a clear sign that they have college coaches watching the organization.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/24/15 10:47 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What are the top things you expect and deserve from your travel team/coach?


A true commitment and same goals from all players, parents and coaches. Trust that your coach is doing everything he/she can for EVERY child on the team (Important for all teams but especially for people on daddy ball teams). Honesty and trust - once that's gone a team will splinter
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/25/15 10:13 AM

LI Whalers are looking for 3 very competitive players for their 2016 10u team. We have 7 very skilled players already and looking to fill out the roster. Must be an advanced and committed player.
contact for info.
fvizza@whalersbaseball.com
www.whalersbaseball.com
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/25/15 12:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What are the top things you expect and deserve from your travel team/coach?


A true commitment and same goals from all players, parents and coaches. Trust that your coach is doing everything he/she can for EVERY child on the team (Important for all teams but especially for people on daddy ball teams). Honesty and trust - once that's gone a team will splinter


Very good points, same commitment from all, is very important. A coach that walks the walk and not talks the talk is important, not a coach that posts all the feel good things about motivational quotes about "karma", "what softball teaches" blah blah blah. And then does anything but the right thing and the his posts.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/26/15 01:06 PM

Easton Mako drop -10 31/21 composite softball bat. Only used a dozen times. That bat has been rolled for better performance. Retail price $350.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/26/15 07:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Easton Mako drop -10 31/21 composite softball bat. Only used a dozen times. That bat has been rolled for better performance. Retail price $350.


Rolled?? Trying to kill someone [***censored***]?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/26/15 10:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Easton Mako drop -10 31/21 composite softball bat. Only used a dozen times. That bat has been rolled for better performance. Retail price $350.


Really? These bats are juiced enough and you went and rolled it? U should be ashamed of yourself.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/27/15 03:55 PM

Drop 10.? Wrong room. Try the 11U group
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/27/15 03:56 PM

Drop 10.? Wrong room. Try the 11U group
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/27/15 06:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Easton Mako drop -10 31/21 composite softball bat. Only used a dozen times. That bat has been rolled for better performance. Retail price $350.


what an idiot
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/30/15 09:53 AM

The team to beat is the Crush, got a bunch of new talent with big turnouts to tryouts. New season to start soon TLI watch out...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/31/15 06:06 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
The team to beat is the Crush, got a bunch of new talent with big turnouts to tryouts. New season to start soon TLI watch out...


Nobody cares whether the Crush is the team to beat.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/31/15 06:12 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
The team to beat is the Crush, got a bunch of new talent with big turnouts to tryouts. New season to start soon TLI watch out...


It's like the Holy Grail?! Finally Beating TLI!!!! WOW after all these years.

For those kids with talent that went to the Crush tryout ! wrong team ! you will only be used as an accessory to the Daddy Ball coach and his inner circle. Get out now before it even starts. Wasted money and time will be the outcome of this talented kids.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/31/15 06:13 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
The team to beat is the Crush, got a bunch of new talent with big turnouts to tryouts. New season to start soon TLI watch out...


Same wish every year.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/31/15 08:56 AM

Rolled bats in fast pitch softball. You guys are pathetic. How is living your life through your daughter's eyes?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/31/15 10:49 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
The team to beat is the Crush, got a bunch of new talent with big turnouts to tryouts. New season to start soon TLI watch out...


nobody is taking the bait, do you always have to stir the pot? go post the same quote on 4 other threads , loser.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/31/15 11:20 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Easton Mako drop -10 31/21 composite softball bat. Only used a dozen times. That bat has been rolled for better performance. Retail price $350.


Contact information is missing.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/31/15 08:07 PM

Which Crush team is being referenced in all this? I know the 01 team is one of the better teams on LI.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/01/15 02:00 PM

lol!!!!!!!!!!!!! big turnouts at tryouts!!!! i was there it was a ghost town, like every year!!

Just win baby!

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
The team to beat is the Crush, got a bunch of new talent with big turnouts to tryouts. New season to start soon TLI watch out...


nobody is taking the bait, do you always have to stir the pot? go post the same quote on 4 other threads , loser.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/01/15 02:04 PM

Happy September 1st to all 2017 grads. D1 coaches can now officially contact you. Make space in your inbox and charge your cell phones to get ready for all those college coach calls and emails!!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/01/15 06:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Happy September 1st to all 2017 grads. D1 coaches can now officially contact you. Make space in your inbox and charge your cell phones to get ready for all those college coach calls and emails!!



TC Tremors LI phones are ringing off the hook! Thank God for the best coach on the Island.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/01/15 06:20 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Happy September 1st to all 2017 grads. D1 coaches can now officially contact you. Make space in your inbox and charge your cell phones to get ready for all those college coach calls and emails!!


I guess all the verbals will start rolling in soon!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/01/15 06:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Happy September 1st to all 2017 grads. D1 coaches can now officially contact you. Make space in your inbox and charge your cell phones to get ready for all those college coach calls and emails!!

hahahahaha
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/01/15 10:05 PM

Binghamton just emailed my daughter and she isn't on TLI. Guess other players who aren't on TLI have a shot after all.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/02/15 06:48 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Happy September 1st to all 2017 grads. D1 coaches can now officially contact you. Make space in your inbox and charge your cell phones to get ready for all those college coach calls and emails!!


I guess now we will know which coaches really are interested and which aren't.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/02/15 07:44 AM

Which travel org's on LI offer the best college recruitment showcases, offerings, etc..? I have a 15yr old looking to take the next step up and join a new organization. This is a serious inquiry/question. I'm hoping to get some useful info and dialog going on this board instead of the typical garbage. Thanks!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/02/15 10:31 AM

I dont think TLI had big turn outs either, bluefire and surge did. crush is crush
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/02/15 01:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Which travel org's on LI offer the best college recruitment showcases, offerings, etc..? I have a 15yr old looking to take the next step up and join a new organization. This is a serious inquiry/question. I'm hoping to get some useful info and dialog going on this board instead of the typical garbage. Thanks!


Check whichever travel team you know off on long island and check their verbal committments and the type of schools they verballed to. And make your decision from there.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/02/15 01:57 PM

I was at the TLI tryouts and it looked pretty packed.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/02/15 03:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Which travel org's on LI offer the best college recruitment showcases, offerings, etc..? I have a 15yr old looking to take the next step up and join a new organization. This is a serious inquiry/question. I'm hoping to get some useful info and dialog going on this board instead of the typical garbage. Thanks!


This question probably should have been asked about a month ago. You missed all the tryouts.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/02/15 06:00 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Which travel org's on LI offer the best college recruitment showcases, offerings, etc..? I have a 15yr old looking to take the next step up and join a new organization. This is a serious inquiry/question. I'm hoping to get some useful info and dialog going on this board instead of the typical garbage. Thanks!


This question probably should have been asked about a month ago. You missed all the tryouts.


you didn't total miss out - teams are always looking for a good player or two - that come with good realistic parents - there are also always will be a team or two that might not need your kid book your money won't hurt adding to the squad
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/02/15 08:46 PM

I paid $1650 dollars last year for my dd to play is that a lot. 10U fast pitch LVL. We played 4 October tourneys and 10 spring summer tourneysincluding Nationals. 20 winter sessions indoor 3hrs each. Also got two uniforms a bag, helmet practice shirt and top notch instruction from college players. Also weekly practices.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/03/15 03:38 AM

All 15U eligible players move up to 16U after Labor Day. Have 2 16U fall teams that will be in Boys of Summer league for the fall (12games) and 2, and upwards to 4 tournaments.
Please make sure you put in the subject matter.

You realize your into the 11th hour.
Posted by: Fastpitch Junkie

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/03/15 08:51 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Which travel org's on LI offer the best college recruitment showcases, offerings, etc..? I have a 15yr old looking to take the next step up and join a new organization. This is a serious inquiry/question. I'm hoping to get some useful info and dialog going on this board instead of the typical garbage. Thanks!


It’s a great question and one that many parents/players grapple with. The answer is rooted in your DD and primarily with her skill set and her target schools to go to and play softball. This will lead you to which Orgs you should then tryout for. So here is my response (sorry for the long-windedness of this answer)

Understand that each LI Org has their sweet spot in placing kids into college programs, so the last thing you want to do is either over extend your daughter by placing her on a team where one, she will sit on the end of the bench or two is short changed by playing for an org that cannot get her the exposure she desires. This is what makes deciding so difficult.

As parents we have to fight the temptation that our DD skill sets are better than reality. But that does not mean that you should not tryout for say a TLI if your daughter’s aspirations are to play D1. Never say no to a players dreams, but don’t get upset if she indeed does not make that team, just move on to the next on your list. There are many Org’s out there that have a proven track record of committing your DD to a college, stick with them and not any of the new ones that have recently come on the scene as 18U Gold or Elite teams. Having an Org and Coach with a proven track record is extremely important, remember you only have one shot to get his right.

If your DD’s aspiration is to play at a school where she will have a chance to play all four years, then a D3 school might be the place for her. If the case then there is no need to be playing for the top tier LI Org’s, best to play for the second tiered one and save on all those player and travel fees that come with playing at for the top Org’s. For example, no need to pay for a trip to say California, there are no west coast programs looking at an east coast kid. Additionally, look at the roster sizes of some of these more know Orgs as well, most carry upwards of 16 to 20 kids so really how much playing time do you think you will get.

Also, don’t get hung up on the lure of so called Scholarship money, There really is not much of that available from the Athletic standpoint, the real money comes from the Academic side, which all three Division type schools hand out. So make sure that your DD focuses first and foremost on your school work, this will be the best avenue to getting money from a school.

As for LI Orgs, there are 2 tiers, ones that give you the better exposure and chance to play D1 and the rest that you can use to get into D2 & D3. Based on all my years in and around LI Fastpitch, here is my opinion on the breakdown for LI Orgs that have a track record of placing kids into programs.

Team LI – The clear leader for LI based org’s, best chance for D1 but very difficult to make their rosters

LI Chargers – Been around the longest time, well run and great track record of placing kids,

LI Express – Has quietly gone about their business of placing kids in programs.

Sudden Impact – Had a tremendous program in the past, has taken a big hit in recent years, not sure they will ever recover

LI Bandits – Also been around a long time, tries hard to get exposure at the higher levels, has fallen off in the recent years..

LI Ducks – Very good coaching on their Gold team, has done a nice job of placing kids into programs.

LI Pride – Has done a nice job over the past 2 years with his original team but now that they have been placed, not sure they will sustain that momentum.

LI Hurricanes – Quietly goes about their business, does a nice job at the D2 & D3 levels

Team Nitro – Another org that has quietly gone about placing kids into D2/D3 colleges.

Regarding Frozen Ropes and TC Tremors, appears that the turmoil is still ongoing, not sure a good place to put your DD right now.

Remember this is just one person’s insight, do your homework and research, contact various teams and go and tryout for several of them. Meet the coaches, the players and see what is the right fit for your DD. Then decide based on all data you have collected. But realize that when all the fun begins, because the onus is now on you to start marketing your DD to college programs and coaches. The program can only get you exposure, its the work you and your DD does to get the college coach to find you. But this is a whole other topic for another day. 
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/03/15 08:56 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Which travel org's on LI offer the best college recruitment showcases, offerings, etc..? I have a 15yr old looking to take the next step up and join a new organization. This is a serious inquiry/question. I'm hoping to get some useful info and dialog going on this board instead of the typical garbage. Thanks!


Joining a new organization might not be necessary or even matter depending on where you are. You should educate yourself on the recruiting process. That should help you understand what you need to do for your 15yo.
Generally speaking TLI has the highest level of exposure...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/03/15 11:16 AM

which TLI tryout, packed with returning players, or new ones. i think people got scared away with the tryout fee.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/04/15 07:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
which TLI tryout, packed with returning players, or new ones. i think people got scared away with the tryout fee.


If the $20 fee discoutaged you then travel ball shouldn't be in your future. Between hotels, meals, transportation and extra expenses, $20 is a squirrel fart compared to all other expenses.
Stick with little league.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/04/15 07:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I paid $1650 dollars last year for my dd to play is that a lot. 10U fast pitch LVL. We played 4 October tourneys and 10 spring summer tourneysincluding Nationals. 20 winter sessions indoor 3hrs each. Also got two uniforms a bag, helmet practice shirt and top notch instruction from college players. Also weekly practices.


sounds reasonable for that amount of practice/tourny/gear

if you are paying more then that you better be on one of the top teams and with a coach that has the ear of a college coach or two
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/04/15 11:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Fastpitch Junkie
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Which travel org's on LI offer the best college recruitment showcases, offerings, etc..? I have a 15yr old looking to take the next step up and join a new organization. This is a serious inquiry/question. I'm hoping to get some useful info and dialog going on this board instead of the typical garbage. Thanks!


It’s a great question and one that many parents/players grapple with. The answer is rooted in your DD and primarily with her skill set and her target schools to go to and play softball. This will lead you to which Orgs you should then tryout for. So here is my response (sorry for the long-windedness of this answer)

Understand that each LI Org has their sweet spot in placing kids into college programs, so the last thing you want to do is either over extend your daughter by placing her on a team where one, she will sit on the end of the bench or two is short changed by playing for an org that cannot get her the exposure she desires. This is what makes deciding so difficult.

As parents we have to fight the temptation that our DD skill sets are better than reality. But that does not mean that you should not tryout for say a TLI if your daughter’s aspirations are to play D1. Never say no to a players dreams, but don’t get upset if she indeed does not make that team, just move on to the next on your list. There are many Org’s out there that have a proven track record of committing your DD to a college, stick with them and not any of the new ones that have recently come on the scene as 18U Gold or Elite teams. Having an Org and Coach with a proven track record is extremely important, remember you only have one shot to get his right.

If your DD’s aspiration is to play at a school where she will have a chance to play all four years, then a D3 school might be the place for her. If the case then there is no need to be playing for the top tier LI Org’s, best to play for the second tiered one and save on all those player and travel fees that come with playing at for the top Org’s. For example, no need to pay for a trip to say California, there are no west coast programs looking at an east coast kid. Additionally, look at the roster sizes of some of these more know Orgs as well, most carry upwards of 16 to 20 kids so really how much playing time do you think you will get.

Also, don’t get hung up on the lure of so called Scholarship money, There really is not much of that available from the Athletic standpoint, the real money comes from the Academic side, which all three Division type schools hand out. So make sure that your DD focuses first and foremost on your school work, this will be the best avenue to getting money from a school.

As for LI Orgs, there are 2 tiers, ones that give you the better exposure and chance to play D1 and the rest that you can use to get into D2 & D3. Based on all my years in and around LI Fastpitch, here is my opinion on the breakdown for LI Orgs that have a track record of placing kids into programs.

Team LI – The clear leader for LI based org’s, best chance for D1 but very difficult to make their rosters

LI Chargers – Been around the longest time, well run and great track record of placing kids,

LI Express – Has quietly gone about their business of placing kids in programs.

Sudden Impact – Had a tremendous program in the past, has taken a big hit in recent years, not sure they will ever recover

LI Bandits – Also been around a long time, tries hard to get exposure at the higher levels, has fallen off in the recent years..

LI Ducks – Very good coaching on their Gold team, has done a nice job of placing kids into programs.

LI Pride – Has done a nice job over the past 2 years with his original team but now that they have been placed, not sure they will sustain that momentum.

LI Hurricanes – Quietly goes about their business, does a nice job at the D2 & D3 levels

Team Nitro – Another org that has quietly gone about placing kids into D2/D3 colleges.

Regarding Frozen Ropes and TC Tremors, appears that the turmoil is still ongoing, not sure a good place to put your DD right now.

Remember this is just one person’s insight, do your homework and research, contact various teams and go and tryout for several of them. Meet the coaches, the players and see what is the right fit for your DD. Then decide based on all data you have collected. But realize that when all the fun begins, because the onus is now on you to start marketing your DD to college programs and coaches. The program can only get you exposure, its the work you and your DD does to get the college coach to find you. But this is a whole other topic for another day. 


I've been told if you're from LI, don't get too crazy on the travel team, these people say we should focus on camps in the NE, since 99% of the LI girls end up playing in the NE. Anybody agree or disagree with this info?? Looking for the best options for my daughter.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/05/15 02:36 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
which TLI tryout, packed with returning players, or new ones. i think people got scared away with the tryout fee.


If the $20 fee discoutaged you then travel ball shouldn't be in your future. Between hotels, meals, transportation and extra expenses, $20 is a squirrel fart compared to all other expenses.
Stick with little league.


The fee probably weeded out those kids/parents who were probably not going to make the team anyway or would not commit for whatever reasons.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/05/15 02:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Fastpitch Junkie
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Which travel org's on LI offer the best college recruitment showcases, offerings, etc..? I have a 15yr old looking to take the next step up and join a new organization. This is a serious inquiry/question. I'm hoping to get some useful info and dialog going on this board instead of the typical garbage. Thanks!


It’s a great question and one that many parents/players grapple with. The answer is rooted in your DD and primarily with her skill set and her target schools to go to and play softball. This will lead you to which Orgs you should then tryout for. So here is my response (sorry for the long-windedness of this answer)

Understand that each LI Org has their sweet spot in placing kids into college programs, so the last thing you want to do is either over extend your daughter by placing her on a team where one, she will sit on the end of the bench or two is short changed by playing for an org that cannot get her the exposure she desires. This is what makes deciding so difficult.

As parents we have to fight the temptation that our DD skill sets are better than reality. But that does not mean that you should not tryout for say a TLI if your daughter’s aspirations are to play D1. Never say no to a players dreams, but don’t get upset if she indeed does not make that team, just move on to the next on your list. There are many Org’s out there that have a proven track record of committing your DD to a college, stick with them and not any of the new ones that have recently come on the scene as 18U Gold or Elite teams. Having an Org and Coach with a proven track record is extremely important, remember you only have one shot to get his right.

If your DD’s aspiration is to play at a school where she will have a chance to play all four years, then a D3 school might be the place for her. If the case then there is no need to be playing for the top tier LI Org’s, best to play for the second tiered one and save on all those player and travel fees that come with playing at for the top Org’s. For example, no need to pay for a trip to say California, there are no west coast programs looking at an east coast kid. Additionally, look at the roster sizes of some of these more know Orgs as well, most carry upwards of 16 to 20 kids so really how much playing time do you think you will get.

Also, don’t get hung up on the lure of so called Scholarship money, There really is not much of that available from the Athletic standpoint, the real money comes from the Academic side, which all three Division type schools hand out. So make sure that your DD focuses first and foremost on your school work, this will be the best avenue to getting money from a school.

As for LI Orgs, there are 2 tiers, ones that give you the better exposure and chance to play D1 and the rest that you can use to get into D2 & D3. Based on all my years in and around LI Fastpitch, here is my opinion on the breakdown for LI Orgs that have a track record of placing kids into programs.

Team LI – The clear leader for LI based org’s, best chance for D1 but very difficult to make their rosters

LI Chargers – Been around the longest time, well run and great track record of placing kids,

LI Express – Has quietly gone about their business of placing kids in programs.

Sudden Impact – Had a tremendous program in the past, has taken a big hit in recent years, not sure they will ever recover

LI Bandits – Also been around a long time, tries hard to get exposure at the higher levels, has fallen off in the recent years..

LI Ducks – Very good coaching on their Gold team, has done a nice job of placing kids into programs.

LI Pride – Has done a nice job over the past 2 years with his original team but now that they have been placed, not sure they will sustain that momentum.

LI Hurricanes – Quietly goes about their business, does a nice job at the D2 & D3 levels

Team Nitro – Another org that has quietly gone about placing kids into D2/D3 colleges.

Regarding Frozen Ropes and TC Tremors, appears that the turmoil is still ongoing, not sure a good place to put your DD right now.

Remember this is just one person’s insight, do your homework and research, contact various teams and go and tryout for several of them. Meet the coaches, the players and see what is the right fit for your DD. Then decide based on all data you have collected. But realize that when all the fun begins, because the onus is now on you to start marketing your DD to college programs and coaches. The program can only get you exposure, its the work you and your DD does to get the college coach to find you. But this is a whole other topic for another day. 


I've been told if you're from LI, don't get too crazy on the travel team, these people say we should focus on camps in the NE, since 99% of the LI girls end up playing in the NE. Anybody agree or disagree with this info?? Looking for the best options for my daughter.

If your dd has the same goals as the people who gave you that advice then it might be right for her. But without any info on where she wants to go to school there really isn't a wrong or right answer. Everyone has a different path.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/08/15 12:36 PM

As the parent of a signed kid, yes yes yes! Clinics and camps at the colleges you are serious about are a must. Its like fishing you bait them at the the clinics, get them interested in your kid and then you get them to come see your kid play at the tournaments. There is so much competition you ned to know how it works. Coaches can't waste their team just trolling at tournament games they go there with a purpose to look at certain kids. Yeah every once in a while they stumble across a kid, but the large majority of kids develop over time with the coaches. They watch them at clinics, games and then make a decision. Its a long process. You need to be pro active. Just playing your teams schedule and waiting for the emails won't cut it. Just sending emails won't cut it most times. Especially with the better and sought after colleges at every level 1,2 or 3. Believe me there are travel coaches out there who I have heard tell parents and kids that clinics are a waste of money. These coaches are the waste of money!!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/08/15 02:54 PM

Charlie is right, crush is the best.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/08/15 06:30 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Fastpitch Junkie
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Which travel org's on LI offer the best college recruitment showcases, offerings, etc..? I have a 15yr old looking to take the next step up and join a new organization. This is a serious inquiry/question. I'm hoping to get some useful info and dialog going on this board instead of the typical garbage. Thanks!


It’s a great question and one that many parents/players grapple with. The answer is rooted in your DD and primarily with her skill set and her target schools to go to and play softball. This will lead you to which Orgs you should then tryout for. So here is my response (sorry for the long-windedness of this answer)

Understand that each LI Org has their sweet spot in placing kids into college programs, so the last thing you want to do is either over extend your daughter by placing her on a team where one, she will sit on the end of the bench or two is short changed by playing for an org that cannot get her the exposure she desires. This is what makes deciding so difficult.

As parents we have to fight the temptation that our DD skill sets are better than reality. But that does not mean that you should not tryout for say a TLI if your daughter’s aspirations are to play D1. Never say no to a players dreams, but don’t get upset if she indeed does not make that team, just move on to the next on your list. There are many Org’s out there that have a proven track record of committing your DD to a college, stick with them and not any of the new ones that have recently come on the scene as 18U Gold or Elite teams. Having an Org and Coach with a proven track record is extremely important, remember you only have one shot to get his right.

If your DD’s aspiration is to play at a school where she will have a chance to play all four years, then a D3 school might be the place for her. If the case then there is no need to be playing for the top tier LI Org’s, best to play for the second tiered one and save on all those player and travel fees that come with playing at for the top Org’s. For example, no need to pay for a trip to say California, there are no west coast programs looking at an east coast kid. Additionally, look at the roster sizes of some of these more know Orgs as well, most carry upwards of 16 to 20 kids so really how much playing time do you think you will get.

Also, don’t get hung up on the lure of so called Scholarship money, There really is not much of that available from the Athletic standpoint, the real money comes from the Academic side, which all three Division type schools hand out. So make sure that your DD focuses first and foremost on your school work, this will be the best avenue to getting money from a school.

As for LI Orgs, there are 2 tiers, ones that give you the better exposure and chance to play D1 and the rest that you can use to get into D2 & D3. Based on all my years in and around LI Fastpitch, here is my opinion on the breakdown for LI Orgs that have a track record of placing kids into programs.

Team LI – The clear leader for LI based org’s, best chance for D1 but very difficult to make their rosters

LI Chargers – Been around the longest time, well run and great track record of placing kids,

LI Express – Has quietly gone about their business of placing kids in programs.

Sudden Impact – Had a tremendous program in the past, has taken a big hit in recent years, not sure they will ever recover

LI Bandits – Also been around a long time, tries hard to get exposure at the higher levels, has fallen off in the recent years..

LI Ducks – Very good coaching on their Gold team, has done a nice job of placing kids into programs.

LI Pride – Has done a nice job over the past 2 years with his original team but now that they have been placed, not sure they will sustain that momentum.

LI Hurricanes – Quietly goes about their business, does a nice job at the D2 & D3 levels

Team Nitro – Another org that has quietly gone about placing kids into D2/D3 colleges.

Regarding Frozen Ropes and TC Tremors, appears that the turmoil is still ongoing, not sure a good place to put your DD right now.

Remember this is just one person’s insight, do your homework and research, contact various teams and go and tryout for several of them. Meet the coaches, the players and see what is the right fit for your DD. Then decide based on all data you have collected. But realize that when all the fun begins, because the onus is now on you to start marketing your DD to college programs and coaches. The program can only get you exposure, its the work you and your DD does to get the college coach to find you. But this is a whole other topic for another day. 


I've been told if you're from LI, don't get too crazy on the travel team, these people say we should focus on camps in the NE, since 99% of the LI girls end up playing in the NE. Anybody agree or disagree with this info?? Looking for the best options for my daughter.


If you are from LI and your child isn't a standout. Standout meaning varsity as freshman, 1st team all county, best 2 or 3 players in the entire LL then you likely aren't looking at having D1 as a future so yes. Do not go crazy with travel. Study for SAT. Get good grades. Pick a college that will get her a degree she can get a job. Good luck.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/09/15 01:49 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Fastpitch Junkie
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Which travel org's on LI offer the best college recruitment showcases, offerings, etc..? I have a 15yr old looking to take the next step up and join a new organization. This is a serious inquiry/question. I'm hoping to get some useful info and dialog going on this board instead of the typical garbage. Thanks!


It’s a great question and one that many parents/players grapple with. The answer is rooted in your DD and primarily with her skill set and her target schools to go to and play softball. This will lead you to which Orgs you should then tryout for. So here is my response (sorry for the long-windedness of this answer)

Understand that each LI Org has their sweet spot in placing kids into college programs, so the last thing you want to do is either over extend your daughter by placing her on a team where one, she will sit on the end of the bench or two is short changed by playing for an org that cannot get her the exposure she desires. This is what makes deciding so difficult.

As parents we have to fight the temptation that our DD skill sets are better than reality. But that does not mean that you should not tryout for say a TLI if your daughter’s aspirations are to play D1. Never say no to a players dreams, but don’t get upset if she indeed does not make that team, just move on to the next on your list. There are many Org’s out there that have a proven track record of committing your DD to a college, stick with them and not any of the new ones that have recently come on the scene as 18U Gold or Elite teams. Having an Org and Coach with a proven track record is extremely important, remember you only have one shot to get his right.

If your DD’s aspiration is to play at a school where she will have a chance to play all four years, then a D3 school might be the place for her. If the case then there is no need to be playing for the top tier LI Org’s, best to play for the second tiered one and save on all those player and travel fees that come with playing at for the top Org’s. For example, no need to pay for a trip to say California, there are no west coast programs looking at an east coast kid. Additionally, look at the roster sizes of some of these more know Orgs as well, most carry upwards of 16 to 20 kids so really how much playing time do you think you will get.

Also, don’t get hung up on the lure of so called Scholarship money, There really is not much of that available from the Athletic standpoint, the real money comes from the Academic side, which all three Division type schools hand out. So make sure that your DD focuses first and foremost on your school work, this will be the best avenue to getting money from a school.

As for LI Orgs, there are 2 tiers, ones that give you the better exposure and chance to play D1 and the rest that you can use to get into D2 & D3. Based on all my years in and around LI Fastpitch, here is my opinion on the breakdown for LI Orgs that have a track record of placing kids into programs.

Team LI – The clear leader for LI based org’s, best chance for D1 but very difficult to make their rosters

LI Chargers – Been around the longest time, well run and great track record of placing kids,

LI Express – Has quietly gone about their business of placing kids in programs.

Sudden Impact – Had a tremendous program in the past, has taken a big hit in recent years, not sure they will ever recover

LI Bandits – Also been around a long time, tries hard to get exposure at the higher levels, has fallen off in the recent years..

LI Ducks – Very good coaching on their Gold team, has done a nice job of placing kids into programs.

LI Pride – Has done a nice job over the past 2 years with his original team but now that they have been placed, not sure they will sustain that momentum.

LI Hurricanes – Quietly goes about their business, does a nice job at the D2 & D3 levels

Team Nitro – Another org that has quietly gone about placing kids into D2/D3 colleges.

Regarding Frozen Ropes and TC Tremors, appears that the turmoil is still ongoing, not sure a good place to put your DD right now.

Remember this is just one person’s insight, do your homework and research, contact various teams and go and tryout for several of them. Meet the coaches, the players and see what is the right fit for your DD. Then decide based on all data you have collected. But realize that when all the fun begins, because the onus is now on you to start marketing your DD to college programs and coaches. The program can only get you exposure, its the work you and your DD does to get the college coach to find you. But this is a whole other topic for another day. 


I've been told if you're from LI, don't get too crazy on the travel team, these people say we should focus on camps in the NE, since 99% of the LI girls end up playing in the NE. Anybody agree or disagree with this info?? Looking for the best options for my daughter.


If you are from LI and your child isn't a standout. Standout meaning varsity as freshman, 1st team all county, best 2 or 3 players in the entire LL then you likely aren't looking at having D1 as a future so yes. Do not go crazy with travel. Study for SAT. Get good grades. Pick a college that will get her a degree she can get a job. Good luck.



Partially true. Yes good grades and SAT scores are definitely a plus. Schools can stack the scholarship money they give your DD if she has very good grades. College coaches very rarely pay attention to HS softball. So it doesnt really matter if your DD was a varsity player in her freshman year. "best 2 or 3 in the entire LL". Little league? No college coach pays attention to that either. So where does that leave you?. This is where the right travel team comes in. Most coaches know more or less what type of player your DD is and will be depending on the travel team. The college coaches knows which coach will give it them straight regarding a specific player. The college coaches hardly give credence to any player assessment that a daddy coach believing that it is a biased one.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/09/15 06:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous

If you are from LI and your child isn't a standout. Standout meaning varsity as freshman, 1st team all county, best 2 or 3 players in the entire LL then you likely aren't looking at having D1 as a future so yes. Do not go crazy with travel. Study for SAT. Get good grades. Pick a college that will get her a degree she can get a job. Good luck.


Partially true. Yes good grades and SAT scores are definitely a plus. Schools can stack the scholarship money they give your DD if she has very good grades. College coaches very rarely pay attention to HS softball. So it doesnt really matter if your DD was a varsity player in her freshman year. "best 2 or 3 in the entire LL". Little league? No college coach pays attention to that either. So where does that leave you?. This is where the right travel team comes in. Most coaches know more or less what type of player your DD is and will be depending on the travel team. The college coaches knows which coach will give it them straight regarding a specific player. The college coaches hardly give credence to any player assessment that a daddy coach believing that it is a biased one.


This is for the original poster about kids from LI not getting crazy about travel. It's not to impress college coaches. Varsity starter as a freshman is a good barometer for parents to see where their kid stands. If they arent HS age yet, then one of the best in their town or LL program could be a barometer. This doesnt guarantee D1 dreams if they do make varsity, its more of a sign that they are not D1 caliber if they dont make varsity.

To repeat, if the kid can't make a varsity team as a freshman they likely arent D1 caliber. Maybe except in that rare case where the HS team is full of committed/recruited players... which I don't know any HS like that. She doesn't have to be on the team but if she cant make TLI's gold team or Angel's 99 or Top Prospect team or top TLI team for her year, she likely isn't D1 caliber... so yes. Don't go crazy with travel. Get good SAT's and find a team she likes the players and coaches on. Considering many top universities have D1 softball programs which she probably won't make, if she still wants to play after HS, look for a D3 or less competitive D2 program that has her anticipated major or field of study. Go to their camps and show true interest in the school to their coaches.

If she has good grades she will likely get academic money, especially from small private schools (D2/D3). If she is good enough to play on the softball team the D2 programs may have a few thousand for that.

However, if they are that type of standout player who does want to play in college, then TLI probably gives them the best chance to play on a regional D1. If they want to play for a Major or Mid Major D1 program out of the area they will have to probably get off the island and find one of those travel orgs that puts them into those bigger programs. As good as TLI is on LI; the other orgs in the region are much better with college placement as far as more competitive softball programs go.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/09/15 08:15 PM



If you are from LI and your child isn't a standout. Standout meaning varsity as freshman, 1st team all county, best 2 or 3 players in the entire LL then you likely aren't looking at having D1 as a future so yes. Do not go crazy with travel. Study for SAT. Get good grades. Pick a college that will get her a degree she can get a job. Good luck. [/quote]


Partially true. Yes good grades and SAT scores are definitely a plus. Schools can stack the scholarship money they give your DD if she has very good grades. College coaches very rarely pay attention to HS softball. So it doesnt really matter if your DD was a varsity player in her freshman year. "best 2 or 3 in the entire LL". Little league? No college coach pays attention to that either. So where does that leave you?. This is where the right travel team comes in. Most coaches know more or less what type of player your DD is and will be depending on the travel team. The college coaches knows which coach will give it them straight regarding a specific player. The college coaches hardly give credence to any player assessment that a daddy coach believing that it is a biased one. [/quote]

Well said. But the LI travel softball circuit for many parents and DD isn't realistic if playing college is the goal. Some of the coaches of teams don't have the credibility to get those kids in (of course TLI does and to a lesser degree Express, Pride, Crush, Bandits, Chargers do have coaches and experienced name recognition to get those looks) - one of the quasi new teams with "experienced" coaches told me at tryouts "we are going to be playing on the main fields because of our new association with this other program and on the main field we will be playing against (better) teams that have players getting big college coaches looking at them, so while those college coaches are looking at our opponents players our team will be seen too". What the heck was he trying to tell me? So we went to one of the above mentioned teams where previous poster correctly said "going to the right travel team comes in". Don't try and get lucky because of the team you are playing is getting the college exposure and your only thing is you get on the main field.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/09/15 10:07 PM

While HS matters very little, if you aren't one of the best HS players why would you think you can play in college?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/10/15 09:37 AM

If playing in college is the desire for your child, the travel org she plays for once she is in HS needs to match that. Playing for the wrong team can totally kill that dream just as much as the right team can help make it happen, assuming she has the talent.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/10/15 09:40 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous

If you are from LI and your child isn't a standout. Standout meaning varsity as freshman, 1st team all county, best 2 or 3 players in the entire LL then you likely aren't looking at having D1 as a future so yes. Do not go crazy with travel. Study for SAT. Get good grades. Pick a college that will get her a degree she can get a job. Good luck.


Partially true. Yes good grades and SAT scores are definitely a plus. Schools can stack the scholarship money they give your DD if she has very good grades. College coaches very rarely pay attention to HS softball. So it doesnt really matter if your DD was a varsity player in her freshman year. "best 2 or 3 in the entire LL". Little league? No college coach pays attention to that either. So where does that leave you?. This is where the right travel team comes in. Most coaches know more or less what type of player your DD is and will be depending on the travel team. The college coaches knows which coach will give it them straight regarding a specific player. The college coaches hardly give credence to any player assessment that a daddy coach believing that it is a biased one.


This is for the original poster about kids from LI not getting crazy about travel. It's not to impress college coaches. Varsity starter as a freshman is a good barometer for parents to see where their kid stands. If they arent HS age yet, then one of the best in their town or LL program could be a barometer. This doesnt guarantee D1 dreams if they do make varsity, its more of a sign that they are not D1 caliber if they dont make varsity.

To repeat, if the kid can't make a varsity team as a freshman they likely arent D1 caliber. Maybe except in that rare case where the HS team is full of committed/recruited players... which I don't know any HS like that. She doesn't have to be on the team but if she cant make TLI's gold team or Angel's 99 or Top Prospect team or top TLI team for her year, she likely isn't D1 caliber... so yes. Don't go crazy with travel. Get good SAT's and find a team she likes the players and coaches on. Considering many top universities have D1 softball programs which she probably won't make, if she still wants to play after HS, look for a D3 or less competitive D2 program that has her anticipated major or field of study. Go to their camps and show true interest in the school to their coaches.

If she has good grades she will likely get academic money, especially from small private schools (D2/D3). If she is good enough to play on the softball team the D2 programs may have a few thousand for that.

However, if they are that type of standout player who does want to play in college, then TLI probably gives them the best chance to play on a regional D1. If they want to play for a Major or Mid Major D1 program out of the area they will have to probably get off the island and find one of those travel orgs that puts them into those bigger programs. As good as TLI is on LI; the other orgs in the region are much better with college placement as far as more competitive softball programs go.



The point about making varsity as a freshman (or 8th grader) is completely correct. It's just a barometer, but a good indicator. Everything written by this user is correct.

On Long Island, if you're not on Galati's Gold team, Angel's 99 team, LI Chargers Gold, or Sudden Impact Gold it will be an uphill battle for college recruitment. Not impossible, but a very tough road. It'll be hard to get into the better showcases and on the main fields. D1, D2 and D3 schools attend these showcases.

My advice to parents who are not with those teams (okay to have younger daughter on the younger teams in these orgs) -- please do your homework. Scour the websites of each of these showcases. Look where these teams are playing, which showcases and in many cases (like Pennsbury and New Englads' Finest) you'll see which fields they're on. When you see schedules, download them and review them.

Everyone's goal who is reading this forum or has a daughter in 14U and above travel softball is seeing them play collegiate ball. It may not be realistic. But if you think it is, you need to MARKET the hell out of your DD. Target the correct schools. And if the coaches ignore your kid, then move on. It's a tough process, and not all of our daughters have the skill level to play past high school years.

For insulting, over protective posts from or directed to Daddy Ball teams and programs, try to ignore them.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/10/15 11:41 AM

i heard TLI will take anyone who can pay. is that true?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/10/15 06:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
i heard TLI will take anyone who can pay. is that true?


They didn't take you.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/11/15 10:44 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
While HS matters very little, if you aren't one of the best HS players why would you think you can play in college?


Come on more then half of the TOP actual HS players don't even get mentioned in the joke of the Newsday top 25. While some deserving of it do get mentioned there were some last year that shouldn't of been in there, lets be honest here. How can you be named top 25 player to watch and not even get all county honors for that season. I'll tell you...Politics. It's about who you know... HS ball is a joke on Long Island.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/11/15 12:47 PM

I want to know:
What teams accessorize the best?
What teams do the best chants?
Isn't that stuff really the most important???
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/11/15 03:47 PM

my son got cut from his high school team as a senior because he did not play with the coaches travel team, and he is now playing college baseball. High school means nothing. Just go to the right showcases,and you will play college
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/11/15 04:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous


If you are from LI and your child isn't a standout. Standout meaning varsity as freshman, 1st team all county, best 2 or 3 players in the entire LL then you likely aren't looking at having D1 as a future so yes. Do not go crazy with travel. Study for SAT. Get good grades. Pick a college that will get her a degree she can get a job. Good luck.



Partially true. Yes good grades and SAT scores are definitely a plus. Schools can stack the scholarship money they give your DD if she has very good grades. College coaches very rarely pay attention to HS softball. So it doesnt really matter if your DD was a varsity player in her freshman year. "best 2 or 3 in the entire LL". Little league? No college coach pays attention to that either. So where does that leave you?. This is where the right travel team comes in. Most coaches know more or less what type of player your DD is and will be depending on the travel team. The college coaches knows which coach will give it them straight regarding a specific player. The college coaches hardly give credence to any player assessment that a daddy coach believing that it is a biased one. [/quote]

Well said. But the LI travel softball circuit for many parents and DD isn't realistic if playing college is the goal. Some of the coaches of teams don't have the credibility to get those kids in (of course TLI does and to a lesser degree Express, Pride, Crush, Bandits, Chargers do have coaches and experienced name recognition to get those looks) - one of the quasi new teams with "experienced" coaches told me at tryouts "we are going to be playing on the main fields because of our new association with this other program and on the main field we will be playing against (better) teams that have players getting big college coaches looking at them, so while those college coaches are looking at our opponents players our team will be seen too". What the heck was he trying to tell me? So we went to one of the above mentioned teams where previous poster correctly said "going to the right travel team comes in". Don't try and get lucky because of the team you are playing is getting the college exposure and your only thing is you get on the main field. [/quote]

Going directly to the college and the college coaches of the desired program is the best way to go. The coaches get to see you grow, find out if you are serious and you get good training out of it. Most of the travel coaches out there have little to no pull and very little credibility. Be proactive. Don't always believe the typical salesman aka travel coaches.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/11/15 04:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous

If you are from LI and your child isn't a standout. Standout meaning varsity as freshman, 1st team all county, best 2 or 3 players in the entire LL then you likely aren't looking at having D1 as a future so yes. Do not go crazy with travel. Study for SAT. Get good grades. Pick a college that will get her a degree she can get a job. Good luck.


Partially true. Yes good grades and SAT scores are definitely a plus. Schools can stack the scholarship money they give your DD if she has very good grades. College coaches very rarely pay attention to HS softball. So it doesnt really matter if your DD was a varsity player in her freshman year. "best 2 or 3 in the entire LL". Little league? No college coach pays attention to that either. So where does that leave you?. This is where the right travel team comes in. Most coaches know more or less what type of player your DD is and will be depending on the travel team. The college coaches knows which coach will give it them straight regarding a specific player. The college coaches hardly give credence to any player assessment that a daddy coach believing that it is a biased one.


This is for the original poster about kids from LI not getting crazy about travel. It's not to impress college coaches. Varsity starter as a freshman is a good barometer for parents to see where their kid stands. If they arent HS age yet, then one of the best in their town or LL program could be a barometer. This doesnt guarantee D1 dreams if they do make varsity, its more of a sign that they are not D1 caliber if they dont make varsity.

To repeat, if the kid can't make a varsity team as a freshman they likely arent D1 caliber. Maybe except in that rare case where the HS team is full of committed/recruited players... which I don't know any HS like that. She doesn't have to be on the team but if she cant make TLI's gold team or Angel's 99 or Top Prospect team or top TLI team for her year, she likely isn't D1 caliber... so yes. Don't go crazy with travel. Get good SAT's and find a team she likes the players and coaches on. Considering many top universities have D1 softball programs which she probably won't make, if she still wants to play after HS, look for a D3 or less competitive D2 program that has her anticipated major or field of study. Go to their camps and show true interest in the school to their coaches.

If she has good grades she will likely get academic money, especially from small private schools (D2/D3). If she is good enough to play on the softball team the D2 programs may have a few thousand for that.

However, if they are that type of standout player who does want to play in college, then TLI probably gives them the best chance to play on a regional D1. If they want to play for a Major or Mid Major D1 program out of the area they will have to probably get off the island and find one of those travel orgs that puts them into those bigger programs. As good as TLI is on LI; the other orgs in the region are much better with college placement as far as more competitive softball programs go.



The point about making varsity as a freshman (or 8th grader) is completely correct. It's just a barometer, but a good indicator. Everything written by this user is correct.

On Long Island, if you're not on Galati's Gold team, Angel's 99 team, LI Chargers Gold, or Sudden Impact Gold it will be an uphill battle for college recruitment. Not impossible, but a very tough road. It'll be hard to get into the better showcases and on the main fields. D1, D2 and D3 schools attend these showcases.

My advice to parents who are not with those teams (okay to have younger daughter on the younger teams in these orgs) -- please do your homework. Scour the websites of each of these showcases. Look where these teams are playing, which showcases and in many cases (like Pennsbury and New Englads' Finest) you'll see which fields they're on. When you see schedules, download them and review them.

Everyone's goal who is reading this forum or has a daughter in 14U and above travel softball is seeing them play collegiate ball. It may not be realistic. But if you think it is, you need to MARKET the hell out of your DD. Target the correct schools. And if the coaches ignore your kid, then move on. It's a tough process, and not all of our daughters have the skill level to play past high school years.

For insulting, over protective posts from or directed to Daddy Ball teams and programs, try to ignore them.




Please!!!!!!! OMG in child speak, what a jerk
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Re: Travel Organizations - 09/11/15 05:30 PM

Is the Catholic League legit? What are the top teams? My daughter is thinking about going to one.
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Re: Travel Organizations - 09/11/15 10:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
While HS matters very little, if you aren't one of the best HS players why would you think you can play in college?


Come on more then half of the TOP actual HS players don't even get mentioned in the joke of the Newsday top 25. While some deserving of it do get mentioned there were some last year that shouldn't of been in there, lets be honest here. How can you be named top 25 player to watch and not even get all county honors for that season. I'll tell you...Politics. It's about who you know... HS ball is a joke on Long Island.


You don't have to be mentioned to be the best. Everyone knows who the best players are. Those who are among the best might be college players. Those who arent among the best arent college players.
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Re: Travel Organizations - 09/12/15 09:52 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
my son got cut from his high school team as a senior because he did not play with the coaches travel team, and he is now playing college baseball. High school means nothing. Just go to the right showcases,and you will play college


The point is if you aren't talent wise as good as the best players on the island in HS, you probably aren't a D1 caliber player and no travel team is going to get you playing in that D1 program.
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Re: Travel Organizations - 09/12/15 09:55 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
While HS matters very little, if you aren't one of the best HS players why would you think you can play in college?


Come on more then half of the TOP actual HS players don't even get mentioned in the joke of the Newsday top 25. While some deserving of it do get mentioned there were some last year that shouldn't of been in there, lets be honest here. How can you be named top 25 player to watch and not even get all county honors for that season. I'll tell you...Politics. It's about who you know... HS ball is a joke on Long Island.


Coming from the JV team parent.
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Re: Travel Organizations - 09/12/15 12:24 PM

There are some top freshmen who don't get their chance because of the politics of hs Newsday loves TLI and is on there payroll. You're posts make no sense. Colleges care nothing about Long Island political hs.
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Re: Travel Organizations - 09/12/15 02:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Is the Catholic League legit? What are the top teams? My daughter is thinking about going to one.


Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Is the Catholic League legit? What are the top teams? My daughter is thinking about going to one.


Less so than in previous years, but still more competitive than almost any other league on LI. Very top heavy, with 1-3 noncompetitive teams and 5-ish good ones. For your daughter, Sacred Heart and Trinity are good teams with a history of taking freshman. Sacred Heart is definietly on an upward slope with some of the best pitching/defense and a young program which has improved rapidly in the past 2 years from a "gimme" win to one of the best teams on LI. Trinity is a mixed bag, but has good pitching and coaching. They are improving. Kellenberg (hate to say it as one of my daughters played there) is on a downward slope. Great coaching and history of success, but just not as talented as in past years. St Johns is declining too. St. Anthonys is consistently good, but not sure how competitive they'll be next year after some losses. Above all, choose a school your daughter loves academically and socially. Good luck. Very detailed answer LOL
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Re: Travel Organizations - 09/13/15 05:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Is the Catholic League legit? What are the top teams? My daughter is thinking about going to one.


Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Is the Catholic League legit? What are the top teams? My daughter is thinking about going to one.


Less so than in previous years, but still more competitive than almost any other league on LI. Very top heavy, with 1-3 noncompetitive teams and 5-ish good ones. For your daughter, Sacred Heart and Trinity are good teams with a history of taking freshman. Sacred Heart is definietly on an upward slope with some of the best pitching/defense and a young program which has improved rapidly in the past 2 years from a "gimme" win to one of the best teams on LI. Trinity is a mixed bag, but has good pitching and coaching. They are improving. Kellenberg (hate to say it as one of my daughters played there) is on a downward slope. Great coaching and history of success, but just not as talented as in past years. St Johns is declining too. St. Anthonys is consistently good, but not sure how competitive they'll be next year after some losses. Above all, choose a school your daughter loves academically and socially. Good luck. Very detailed answer LOL


Thank you this is very thorough... how is the coaching at SH
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Re: Travel Organizations - 09/13/15 05:21 PM

[quote=Anonymous]Is the Catholic League legit? What are the top teams? My daughter is thinking about going to one.

Check the rosters, see which school has the most TLI girls, that will be the top Catholic team, & that's where your daughter should go.
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Re: Travel Organizations - 09/14/15 10:03 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
There are some top freshmen who don't get their chance because of the politics of hs Newsday loves TLI and is on there payroll. You're posts make no sense. Colleges care nothing about Long Island political hs.


100% correct! HS is the worst. HS coaches couldnt pick talent if it hit them on the head. My DD has been playing travel for 4 years and was still on JV as a sophomore. Travel ball is where all the exposure is and the best players.
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Re: Travel Organizations - 09/14/15 06:46 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
my son got cut from his high school team as a senior because he did not play with the coaches travel team, and he is now playing college baseball. High school means nothing. Just go to the right showcases,and you will play college


The point is if you aren't talent wise as good as the best players on the island in HS, you probably aren't a D1 caliber player and no travel team is going to get you playing in that D1 program.


Stop making sense. Stop. It is not for this forum.
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Re: Travel Organizations - 09/14/15 09:18 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Is the Catholic League legit? What are the top teams? My daughter is thinking about going to one.


Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Is the Catholic League legit? What are the top teams? My daughter is thinking about going to one.


Less so than in previous years, but still more competitive than almost any other league on LI. Very top heavy, with 1-3 noncompetitive teams and 5-ish good ones. For your daughter, Sacred Heart and Trinity are good teams with a history of taking freshman. Sacred Heart is definietly on an upward slope with some of the best pitching/defense and a young program which has improved rapidly in the past 2 years from a "gimme" win to one of the best teams on LI. Trinity is a mixed bag, but has good pitching and coaching. They are improving. Kellenberg (hate to say it as one of my daughters played there) is on a downward slope. Great coaching and history of success, but just not as talented as in past years. St Johns is declining too. St. Anthonys is consistently good, but not sure how competitive they'll be next year after some losses. Above all, choose a school your daughter loves academically and socially. Good luck. Very detailed answer LOL


Sacred Heart is stacked with TLI, Tremors and Xtreme best players. Kellenberg is trending down and Holy Trinty is trending up. StJ and StA are both to big not to have a talented player or two.
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Re: Travel Organizations - 09/14/15 09:47 PM

Someone please explain to me how teams get on the "main" fields?
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Re: Travel Organizations - 09/15/15 07:18 AM

If you arent good in HS it dont mean you wont play in college. girls can get better and can get worse. if you keep practicing starting freshman year and make varsity as a senior you got better and maybe you can play in college with the right types of connections.
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Re: Travel Organizations - 09/15/15 01:17 PM

Catholic school leagues?? Are you serious? Its Little League, kids leave their public schools to play Catholic school ball because they will not make their public school teams, sorry, but thats a fact for many kids. Catholic school is for basketball football and volleyball. Not for softball, seriously its little league. Look at Suffolk D-1, look at last years pitchers in that league. The top 5 all absolutely dominate Catholic school. D-2 and D-3 the same, Man Rizzi, Persicth, Van Dorn, Bluthgen, the Connetquot pitcher breeze thru that league. And those are the girls I know, there were plenty others whose names I dont recall, that wreck that league. Stop the nonsense,
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Re: Travel Organizations - 09/16/15 06:16 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Catholic school leagues?? Are you serious? Its Little League, kids leave their public schools to play Catholic school ball because they will not make their public school teams, sorry, but thats a fact for many kids. Catholic school is for basketball football and volleyball. Not for softball, seriously its little league. Look at Suffolk D-1, look at last years pitchers in that league. The top 5 all absolutely dominate Catholic school. D-2 and D-3 the same, Man Rizzi, Persicth, Van Dorn, Bluthgen, the Connetquot pitcher breeze thru that league. And those are the girls I know, there were plenty others whose names I dont recall, that wreck that league. Stop the nonsense,

Sounds like someone's daughter got rejected LOL. Catholic teams have consistently scrimmaged and beat top public teams.
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Re: Travel Organizations - 09/16/15 07:12 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Catholic school leagues?? Are you serious? Its Little League, kids leave their public schools to play Catholic school ball because they will not make their public school teams, sorry, but thats a fact for many kids. Catholic school is for basketball football and volleyball. Not for softball, seriously its little league. Look at Suffolk D-1, look at last years pitchers in that league. The top 5 all absolutely dominate Catholic school. D-2 and D-3 the same, Man Rizzi, Persicth, Van Dorn, Bluthgen, the Connetquot pitcher breeze thru that league. And those are the girls I know, there were plenty others whose names I dont recall, that wreck that league. Stop the nonsense,


I'd say Sacred Heart is the best on the island private or public
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/16/15 01:01 PM

Why sacred heart?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/16/15 02:28 PM

As for what organization or high school is good or bad it all comes down to who puts in the most work. It is called work ethics, If your daughter practice on and off the field. It will show on the field. The reason some high schools year after year have good teams is because one the size of the school district and because of the off field training. The same goes for Travel teams. The reason TLI is the best is because all the player put in the time away for the field, Hitting lessons and pitching lessons all the time. You get what you put into it.It is very simple, The problem is that some organization are out just to make money.
The true ranking of organization is the talent on the field it is that simple.
1) TLI, Great leadership from top to Bottom, Good coaches and players who want to be the best.
2ND TO 5 ARE ALL ABOUT THE SAME.
Chargers once very good, are know longer any thing to write home about. I think they have three teams.
Crush has some very good teams and have a great 10U to 16U program. But aren't going to get you on the top field at showcases. In a few years yes.
Long Island Express Very Good solid at 16u and 18U
Chiefs 10U to 16U Very good teams. But will not get a call from any college coach unless they are lost and need directions.
Bandits very weak 12U to 16U poor coaching and way to much money. Very good connections and will get you on main fields at 18U. One problem to many players on 18U rosters.
Nitro Middle of the pack from top to bottom.
Frozen Ropes, Stay away at all cost.
Sudden Impact 12u to 16u very weak, always on main fields at 18U level at showcases.
For all the rest if you are just looking to play softball that is where you should be. The main problem is that there are to many teams and organization on the island and coaches that don't know anything about the game or how coach. It is so water down and has turned into a money maker.
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Re: Travel Organizations - 09/16/15 03:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Catholic school leagues?? Are you serious? Its Little League, kids leave their public schools to play Catholic school ball because they will not make their public school teams, sorry, but thats a fact for many kids. Catholic school is for basketball football and volleyball. Not for softball, seriously its little league. Look at Suffolk D-1, look at last years pitchers in that league. The top 5 all absolutely dominate Catholic school. D-2 and D-3 the same, Man Rizzi, Persicth, Van Dorn, Bluthgen, the Connetquot pitcher breeze thru that league. And those are the girls I know, there were plenty others whose names I dont recall, that wreck that league. Stop the nonsense,


I'd say Sacred Heart is the best on the island private or public

I wouldn't go that far but they are def up there. I don't think they lost any key players and are def the favorites to win states next season.
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Re: Travel Organizations - 09/16/15 05:22 PM

Sacred Heart has two players that are verbally committed to D1 schools. Doesnt seem like little league to me. One verballed when she was a sophomore and one verballed when she was a freshman.
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Re: Travel Organizations - 09/16/15 11:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Sacred Heart has two players that are verbally committed to D1 schools. Doesnt seem like little league to me. One verballed when she was a sophomore and one verballed when she was a freshman.


And they have a couple of kids from exteme and tc tremors li. Accepting a verbal in the summer after your freshman year is technically the sophomore year.
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Re: Travel Organizations - 09/17/15 07:55 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Sacred Heart has two players that are verbally committed to D1 schools. Doesnt seem like little league to me. One verballed when she was a sophomore and one verballed when she was a freshman.


Not LL at all, 2x TLI players already committed, 2x TCT best players both college material and 2x TX players with potential college players plus a real softball coach.
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Re: Travel Organizations - 09/17/15 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Sacred Heart has two players that are verbally committed to D1 schools. Doesnt seem like little league to me. One verballed when she was a sophomore and one verballed when she was a freshman.


Not LL at all, 2x TLI players already committed, 2x TCT best players both college material and 2x TX players with potential college players plus a real softball coach.


Thanks CM.
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Re: Travel Organizations - 09/17/15 10:53 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Someone please explain to me how teams get on the "main" fields?


Its very hard. Takes years. Some orgs will never get on the "main" fields. The older age groups has more political BS than HS.

To play on the main fields you need to get on a team that is already on them.
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Re: Travel Organizations - 09/17/15 06:24 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
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Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Sacred Heart has two players that are verbally committed to D1 schools. Doesnt seem like little league to me. One verballed when she was a sophomore and one verballed when she was a freshman.


Not LL at all, 2x TLI players already committed, 2x TCT best players both college material and 2x TX players with potential college players plus a real softball coach.


Thanks CM.


Funny how one girl on SH joins Tremors and suddenly people on this board are talking about her. Just shows that half the people who post on here are with or used to be with Tremors. No clue how she even is as a pitcher.
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Re: Travel Organizations - 09/17/15 06:25 PM

I've heard some not so good things about the Sacred Heart coach. Ditto for St Anthonys.
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Re: Travel Organizations - 09/19/15 05:43 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I've heard some not so good things about the Sacred Heart coach. Ditto for St Anthonys.


SH coach - control freak! Treats HS ball like a D1 ptogram with traveling out of state. That's fine but sbe doesn't have D1 budget so parents habe to do the oh so fun fund raising ?
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Re: Travel Organizations - 09/19/15 05:52 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
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Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Sacred Heart has two players that are verbally committed to D1 schools. Doesnt seem like little league to me. One verballed when she was a sophomore and one verballed when she was a freshman.


Not LL at all, 2x TLI players already committed, 2x TCT best players both college material and 2x TX players with potential college players plus a real softball coach.


Thanks CM.


Funny how one girl on SH joins Tremors and suddenly people on this board are talking about her. Just shows that half the people who post on here are with or used to be with Tremors. No clue how she even is as a pitcher.




There goes that Tremors li agenda again. Keep pushing. Though win some quality games first then you wont need to sell it that much.
Its got to be the kool aid.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/23/15 02:49 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Someone please explain to me how teams get on the "main" fields?


Its very hard. Takes years. Some orgs will never get on the "main" fields. The older age groups has more political BS than HS.

To play on the main fields you need to get on a team that is already on them.


Who are the ones that get main fields? TLI main teams? TC tremors main teams? Bandits? Sudden impact? Chargers? Who else?
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Re: Travel Organizations - 09/29/15 01:08 AM

When is it too early to commit to a school?
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Re: Travel Organizations - 09/30/15 03:51 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
When is it too early to commit to a school?


3rd grade
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/30/15 06:17 AM

Kindergarten.
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Re: Travel Organizations - 09/30/15 08:22 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
When is it too early to commit to a school?


Freshman/Sophmore year is too early. Anybody verballing before junior year is probably being pushed by a parent or travel coach, so the parent can brag about his daughter being verballed or it can go on a team's website. Take your time, make sure the school has what your daughter wants academically.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/30/15 02:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
When is it too early to commit to a school?


When your dd isn't sure that is the school for her
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Re: Travel Organizations - 10/01/15 04:16 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
When is it too early to commit to a school?


Freshman/Sophmore year is too early. Anybody verballing before junior year is probably being pushed by a parent or travel coach, so the parent can brag about his daughter being verballed or it can go on a team's website. Take your time, make sure the school has what your daughter wants academically.


If it's a no money verbal for frosh/soph then it's too early. If the offer is substantial and it's a school she wants I don't see a problem with an early commit.
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Re: Travel Organizations - 10/02/15 01:29 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
When is it too early to commit to a school?


Freshman/Sophmore year is too early. Anybody verballing before junior year is probably being pushed by a parent or travel coach, so the parent can brag about his daughter being verballed or it can go on a team's website. Take your time, make sure the school has what your daughter wants academically.


If it's a no money verbal for frosh/soph then it's too early. If the offer is substantial and it's a school she wants I don't see a problem with an early commit.


For some families who don't worry about money a no money verbal to a child's dream school might be ok for them.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/03/15 08:52 PM

Wait, so you mean to tell me people are spending so much money travelling every weekend, and they don't care about getting money for college???
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/04/15 05:13 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Wait, so you mean to tell me people are spending so much money travelling every weekend, and they don't care about getting money for college???


Some people are fortunate enough to afford things or do things not just about the money.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/04/15 09:47 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Wait, so you mean to tell me people are spending so much money travelling every weekend, and they don't care about getting money for college???


Yes.

Go Crush

Just win baby
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/04/15 10:19 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Wait, so you mean to tell me people are spending so much money travelling every weekend, and they don't care about getting money for college???


yeah, there are plenty of them. you think every family thinks there daughter is going to playing college just because they play travel ball??? there aren't enough college teams to absorb that many players.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/04/15 12:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
When is it too early to commit to a school?


Freshman/Sophmore year is too early. Anybody verballing before junior year is probably being pushed by a parent or travel coach, so the parent can brag about his daughter being verballed or it can go on a team's website. Take your time, make sure the school has what your daughter wants academically.


If it's a no money verbal for frosh/soph then it's too early. If the offer is substantial and it's a school she wants I don't see a problem with an early commit.


For some families who don't worry about money a no money verbal to a child's dream school might be ok for them.


A no money verbal is. D3 verbal. Some D3 schools though "find" some sort of scholarship money that in a way is tied up to athletics.

I don't know of any parent that would agree to a no money verbal to a D1 or D2 school. Although i have heard of some offers that will give the kid a very minimal dollar amount for the ist 2 years and then get 80~90% scholarship (tuition and board and lodging) for the junior and senior year. If you are faced with this kind of offer, just hope that your DD has great grades so she can max out on the academic money. 32
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/04/15 01:26 PM

sounds like someone who's DD wasn't good enough to get an offer at the right time.. Which is her freshman/sophomore year.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/04/15 01:29 PM

Nobody said when they committed.
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Re: Travel Organizations - 10/04/15 01:32 PM

Only the TCT pitcher is maybe D2/D3 college material. Not so much though for the other TCT.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/04/15 07:08 PM

Has anyone ever tallied up the cost of playing ball at a high travel level starting at age 12 or 13?
My guess is you are lucky to come out ahead of the game if you are using the game to try and get a college scholarship.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/13/15 08:44 PM

Here are some things that I learned along the way...

1. It does matter what team you are on. The bigger the stage and the better the tournaments, the better the college recruiting.

2. Don't depend on the club team or coach to do the recruiting for you. The more the kid puts into it, the better the results. The club coach is motivated to make a match between the player and an interested school. That does not mean the school is a good or the best fit for the kid. That work the player (and her parents) need to do; sometimes on your own and despite the team's program.

3. You don't have to spend a fortune to get your kid recruited. But you do have to invest in the time and do the travel that is necessary (both for playing opportunities and recruiting).

4. Start early. A good player should be on the college radar by her freshman year (fall of). Do a few visits, go to a camp or two. Let her see how she matches up and what she needs to work on.

5. Let it be her thing. I never told or asked her to go practice, but took her to the park every time she asked.

6. Don't over lesson her. Too many lessons are a waste of money. A hitter should know her own swing and be able to self diagnose. When she gets stuck or needs a tune up, go for a few lessons. Same for fielding and pitching.

7. Don't be afraid to make her sacrifice for her passion - it doesn't mean much if she doesn't. Too often I see that the parents are making all the sacrifices and the kid is not. Wrong - make them have skin in the game. For example, missing a game/practice for senior prom was okay with us - blowing off a weekend tournament to go to the beach with her friends after the prom was not. You have to teach them the meaning of commitment, hard work and sacrifice.

8. Find your own truths - different things will work for different kids.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/13/15 09:43 PM

Ivies don't give athletic money. Top academic schools like Notre Dame and Stanford don't have to give some players money. a lot will just be happy to get accepted. I know a player outside our area who committed to a big name school for no athletic money. Just to get accepted. Another committed to another big name school for %10 athletic just because they want to be at that school. It's not all about the athletic money for some families.

To be honest if my DD could get into a Princeton or harvard I would figure out a way to find the money. But she won't so I guess I don't have to worry about that.
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Re: Travel Organizations - 10/14/15 03:28 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Only the TCT pitcher is maybe D2/D3 college material. Not so much though for the other TCT.


not so-P'ers on TCT are DII and DIII material; but one OFer already inked to Dowling 2 others getting serious looks and a few IF'ers too-wait until the season is over
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/14/15 06:36 AM

WELL SAID!!!!
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Re: Travel Organizations - 10/14/15 08:50 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Only the TCT pitcher is maybe D2/D3 college material. Not so much though for the other TCT.


not so-P'ers on TCT are DII and DIII material; but one OFer already inked to Dowling 2 others getting serious looks and a few IF'ers too-wait until the season is over


Wow all this interest and to think that the coach had nothing to with it.
Good job girls!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/15/15 10:56 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Here are some things that I learned along the way...

1. It does matter what team you are on. The bigger the stage and the better the tournaments, the better the college recruiting.

2. Don't depend on the club team or coach to do the recruiting for you. The more the kid puts into it, the better the results. The club coach is motivated to make a match between the player and an interested school. That does not mean the school is a good or the best fit for the kid. That work the player (and her parents) need to do; sometimes on your own and despite the team's program.

3. You don't have to spend a fortune to get your kid recruited. But you do have to invest in the time and do the travel that is necessary (both for playing opportunities and recruiting).

4. Start early. A good player should be on the college radar by her freshman year (fall of). Do a few visits, go to a camp or two. Let her see how she matches up and what she needs to work on.

5. Let it be her thing. I never told or asked her to go practice, but took her to the park every time she asked.

6. Don't over lesson her. Too many lessons are a waste of money. A hitter should know her own swing and be able to self diagnose. When she gets stuck or needs a tune up, go for a few lessons. Same for fielding and pitching.

7. Don't be afraid to make her sacrifice for her passion - it doesn't mean much if she doesn't. Too often I see that the parents are making all the sacrifices and the kid is not. Wrong - make them have skin in the game. For example, missing a game/practice for senior prom was okay with us - blowing off a weekend tournament to go to the beach with her friends after the prom was not. You have to teach them the meaning of commitment, hard work and sacrifice.

8. Find your own truths - different things will work for different kids.


Why does everyone say the travel team matters so much? Is it just a load of BS? I heard coaches just can see everyone at their camps.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/15/15 06:44 PM

Dowling is 13th grade, its going out of business
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/16/15 10:03 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Dowling is 13th grade, its going out of business


Wow - you are a -------
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/19/15 04:13 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Here are some things that I learned along the way...

1. It does matter what team you are on. The bigger the stage and the better the tournaments, the better the college recruiting.

2. Don't depend on the club team or coach to do the recruiting for you. The more the kid puts into it, the better the results. The club coach is motivated to make a match between the player and an interested school. That does not mean the school is a good or the best fit for the kid. That work the player (and her parents) need to do; sometimes on your own and despite the team's program.

3. You don't have to spend a fortune to get your kid recruited. But you do have to invest in the time and do the travel that is necessary (both for playing opportunities and recruiting).

4. Start early. A good player should be on the college radar by her freshman year (fall of). Do a few visits, go to a camp or two. Let her see how she matches up and what she needs to work on.

5. Let it be her thing. I never told or asked her to go practice, but took her to the park every time she asked.

6. Don't over lesson her. Too many lessons are a waste of money. A hitter should know her own swing and be able to self diagnose. When she gets stuck or needs a tune up, go for a few lessons. Same for fielding and pitching.

7. Don't be afraid to make her sacrifice for her passion - it doesn't mean much if she doesn't. Too often I see that the parents are making all the sacrifices and the kid is not. Wrong - make them have skin in the game. For example, missing a game/practice for senior prom was okay with us - blowing off a weekend tournament to go to the beach with her friends after the prom was not. You have to teach them the meaning of commitment, hard work and sacrifice.

8. Find your own truths - different things will work for different kids.


Why does everyone say the travel team matters so much? Is it just a load of BS? I heard coaches just can see everyone at their camps.

Is travel ball important or BS? it is important to get proper training and pal against better competition - however it is pumped up by travel ball coaches many of them wanna-be real coaches looking to make a few extra bucks.
Camps are where the majority of the smaller colleges are going to get interested player.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/19/15 08:03 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Dowling is 13th grade, its going out of business


Wow - you are a -------


really - weak comment - jealousy that someone got a commitment is weak - congrats to anyone that get a college commitment
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/19/15 12:20 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Dowling is 13th grade, its going out of business


Wow - you are a -------


well could be several things, a realist, a guy who won't chase dollars or a D number over education, or a guy who is exactly right!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/21/15 04:33 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Dowling is 13th grade, its going out of business


Wow - you are a -------


well could be several things, a realist, a guy who won't chase dollars or a D number over education, or a guy who is exactly right!


or someone willing to pop bubble of the accomplishment of someone that got something to go somewhere - thanks
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/21/15 08:00 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Dowling is 13th grade, its going out of business


Wow - you are a -------


well could be several things, a realist, a guy who won't chase dollars or a D number over education, or a guy who is exactly right!


or someone willing to pop bubble of the accomplishment of someone that got something to go somewhere - thanks


Exactly. Sad that an adult has to be so low that they would attack accomplishments of young ladies. Congrats to the girls. They should be proud of themselves despite the jealous losers on this board
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/22/15 08:24 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Dowling is 13th grade, its going out of business


Wow - you are a -------


well could be several things, a realist, a guy who won't chase dollars or a D number over education, or a guy who is exactly right!


or someone willing to pop bubble of the accomplishment of someone that got something to go somewhere - thanks


Unfortunately that is the way so many people are; good for the kid getting a get from Dowling; to everyone out there don't let the nay-sayer get you to you in softball or any other stage of your life; most of them a jealous, booze-bags.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/09/15 09:05 AM

Is the Chargers Gold team good?

Do they have college bound players?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/09/15 11:52 AM

new to travel. how do I pick the right travel team for my 10yo daughter?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/10/15 05:30 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Is the Chargers Gold team good?

Do they have college bound players?


why don't you check their website. You do know what that is.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/10/15 03:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Is the Chargers Gold team good?

Do they have college bound players?


No their team isn't very good and only a two team org. Their guy who runs the org and coaches the Gold team is retiring and stepping down soon. Younger team is already considering leaving which would leave them with just their gold team. Nobody showed for their tryouts over the summer either.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/10/15 06:43 PM

i thought paz was the new coach of one of there teams? This org has really gone down hill but there are so many on LI now.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/10/15 07:36 PM

If you go to the Charger website or other team sites you can check out college commitments. Over the years the Chargers have had a nice mix of D1,D2 and D3 players.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/11/15 08:03 AM

Chargers gold is a 16u team at best
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/11/15 09:37 AM

Just found this board. Read through a lot of the post and all I read is how the college coach "finds" your DD. Why can't your DD contact the schools that she is interested in? Let the coach know of her interest. Send your schedule. Send your background. I am sure if the coach is attending the same show cases he/she will stop by to take a look. FYI, it should be her doing the e mails, not the parents.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/11/15 01:14 PM

Happy Early signing day to all those signing their NLI's!!!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/12/15 06:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
new to travel. how do I pick the right travel team for my 10yo daughter?


Find one that will teach skills and drill more than play. It should also be fun for her.
Posted by: Fastpitch Junkie

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/19/15 02:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Just found this board. Read through a lot of the post and all I read is how the college coach "finds" your DD. Why can't your DD contact the schools that she is interested in? Let the coach know of her interest. Send your schedule. Send your background. I am sure if the coach is attending the same show cases he/she will stop by to take a look. FYI, it should be her doing the e mails, not the parents.

Hmmm, not sure where you read that the Coach finds the player, that is absolutely false in 99% of the kids that get recruited. You have to market your kid to the coaches/schools you have interest in. This takes much work on the players part. This includes constantly emailing the coach, this lets them know that you are serious about their program, attending their camps if they have any and/or possibly sending a skills video, especially if you can not get in front of the coach. There is a lot of work that you need to do, but if you do you will give your child the best chance to find the school that works best for them.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/19/15 06:36 PM

Mostly made up of last years 14u team. No 16u or 18u went over to gold. RK is the reason. Chargers only survive if female coach takes over when head honcho retires. Truth.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/30/15 01:43 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Is the Chargers Gold team good?

Do they have college bound players?


The Chargers have many college bound athletes. Class of 2015 had 2 D1/ 2 D2 / 10 D3 players. They push for the girls to chose their college for academic needs over playing wants.
Each year they have a good mix of athletes. They just happen to have a bunch of girls this year on Gold who were not thinking they were going to be playing on the Gold Team this year. They will step up and better their games as well as the year goes on. The seniors are already committed to their colleges and a few of their juniors are set also. But they will continue to help the younger girls achieve their dreams as well. With or without the female coach helping them. She is not helping them get recruited at all. Handing out team brochures is not the big part of recruiting. She is still a new face in the crowd, but thankfully the 2 male coaches really know their stuff and have great relationships with many college coaches and tournament directors for these showcases. It helps the girls to stay playing on the main fields at the top showcases in the Northeast.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/04/15 11:23 PM

My daughters 18u roster just added 2 players. Now we have 18. Should she leave?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/05/15 08:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
My daughters 18u roster just added 2 players. Now we have 18. Should she leave?


Where are you going then?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/05/15 08:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
My daughters 18u roster just added 2 players. Now we have 18. Should she leave?


At 18U personally I would. This is a crucial year. Find a team that will be more concerned about the girls than the money
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/06/15 08:11 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
My daughters 18u roster just added 2 players. Now we have 18. Should she leave?


What did the coach say about playing time? Are there players that will be missing weekends?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/08/15 01:54 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Mostly made up of last years 14u team. No 16u or 18u went over to gold. RK is the reason. Chargers only survive if female coach takes over when head honcho retires. Truth.

Real reason 16U girls did not move up (MP & BF) - the girls on that team including MP's daughter and BF's daughter were not good enough and were afraid to come to tryouts. The coaches even told them if they did not think they could make Gold they should look elsewhere - just as their daughters did. They basically told entire team to go to other organizations due to the fact that their own daughters would not make the team so they wanted their entire team to leave the Chargers trying to make them look bad. They were trying to destroy the Gold Team - unfortunate for them the 14U girls would have been brought up before their girls anyway. No big loss. Chargers Gold is just fine and will be on main fields at all their showcases as usual. Each of their seniors are set and many of their juniors are too. They will continue to build as a team with the younger girls and get to play in front of the college coaches anyway. So who is to blame? It was MP and BF the 16u coaches from last year. Wish all the girls lots of luck wherever they choose to play. You have to pick what is right for your own daughter and family situation.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/08/15 08:23 AM

How many seniors are on the team? sometimes a team will add extra to make up for the seniors who sometimes can't make games.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/08/15 08:44 AM

The coach didn't say anything specific about playing time. They have always just said best will play. So it's an open competition for spots.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/09/15 06:03 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
The coach didn't say anything specific about playing time. They have always just said best will play. So it's an open competition for spots.


I don't have a problem with the open competition for spots (that is how it wil be for them in college) BUT you have to get recruited ! at 18U you want playing time if your daughter isn't on the top end of the pecking order I think I would move on. Just curious. Which team is it?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/09/15 07:55 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
My daughters 18u roster just added 2 players. Now we have 18. Should she leave?


At 18U personally I would. This is a crucial year. Find a team that will be more concerned about the girls than the money


\Good luck with that
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/09/15 09:42 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
The coach didn't say anything specific about playing time. They have always just said best will play. So it's an open competition for spots.


Then you have to be honest with your daughters abilities....is she the top in her spot? did they just add someone who can play the same position? and play it better? Lots to think about and this summer is important.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/09/15 07:32 PM

Anyone know of good upcoming clinics?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/10/15 07:06 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
The coach didn't say anything specific about playing time. They have always just said best will play. So it's an open competition for spots.


I don't have a problem with the open competition for spots (that is how it wil be for them in college) BUT you have to get recruited ! at 18U you want playing time if your daughter isn't on the top end of the pecking order I think I would move on. Just curious. Which team is it?


I agree. To be on a good team for the sake of being on a good team is silly. It is all about playing time. You get better by playing and to sit on the bench and get a few at bats on a Saturday and come home and tell everyone your team won isn't what it is about -NOT IN THIS AREA and NOT AT THIS LEVEL. At this level and this area and for the amount of money you pay - it is about playing, playing in actual games.

Trust me in a few years, like my daughter knows after playing in college it is all BS anyway...PLAY and have fun.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/10/15 04:46 PM

HAHAHA HAHAHA Get your facts straight
Head honcho not going anywhere. He was named Suffolk County HS coach of the year and he has not had a daughter in travel ball in 10 years. Does it for the love of the game. Male coaches not going anywhere any time soon & female coach new to this level and needs more experience and exposure with college coaches
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/13/15 12:51 AM

Lots of charger talk. Sure sigh there's trouble in paradise.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/14/15 07:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Anyone know of good upcoming clinics?


I think South Oakes and Pilgrim State both have upcoming clinics that I would highly recommend and could do some good for many of the people here.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/18/15 01:40 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Chargers gold is a 16u team at best

You are correct in part of that statement - They can all still play 16U and or 14U. But they did great this Fall and will continue to play on Main Fields at Showcases And they will continue to make their college choices with academics coming first. Since that will help them most in their future lives. Professional softball is not the aspiration of most of these softball players in travel ball. And yes the Chargers have had plenty of D1/D2/D3 players throughout their many years here on LI
Keep in mind that you must pick a travel team that is best for your daughter and your family.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/20/15 01:51 PM

Is there a main page with all travel teams listed?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/22/15 10:55 AM

LI Crush "futures" team gone & coaches, LI Crush "18u elite" team gone & coaches, sounds like there is trouble in Crush Nation!! Where there's smoke there's fire!!! Nothing like the Holidays when playing on the Crush!!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/26/15 08:46 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
LI Crush "futures" team gone & coaches, LI Crush "18u elite" team gone & coaches, sounds like there is trouble in Crush Nation!! Where there's smoke there's fire!!! Nothing like the Holidays when playing on the Crush!!

Seriously does any of this surprise you? It should not! Crush is such an embarrassment, I can not see how anyone would want to play for them or be a coach in such a screwed up organization.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/27/15 02:24 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
LI Crush "futures" team gone & coaches, LI Crush "18u elite" team gone & coaches, sounds like there is trouble in Crush Nation!! Where there's smoke there's fire!!! Nothing like the Holidays when playing on the Crush!!

Seriously does any of this surprise you? It should not! Crush is such an embarrassment, I can not see how anyone would want to play for them or be a coach in such a screwed up organization.


All those so called "Gold" players with no verbal commitments have got to be kicking themselves in the a** for not jumping ship. They were sold empty promises from their head coach. Now it's obvious what his intentions were all along. Some of them could have had commitments and now unless they are aiming for Ivy Schools, the dream of playing college ball is almost over. Leaving that team before this upcoming Summer season is their only hope but it appears none of them are willing to take that chance. I just don't understand. What a shame. What a shame.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/30/15 12:04 AM

So where are those two Crush teams going? Are the coaches keeping them together and finding a new home or did they disband?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/30/15 06:47 AM

Some of them could have had commitments and now unless they are aiming for Ivy Schools, the dream of playing college ball is almost over. Leaving that team before this upcoming Summer season is their only hope but it appears none of them are willing to take that chance. I just don't understand. What a shame. What a shame. [/quote]

They can play D 3 ball and have a better experience. They will have a true college life while still playing college ball. They might even get to the NCAA's, make all region be all american.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/31/15 06:00 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Some of them could have had commitments and now unless they are aiming for Ivy Schools, the dream of playing college ball is almost over. Leaving that team before this upcoming Summer season is their only hope but it appears none of them are willing to take that chance. I just don't understand. What a shame. What a shame.


They can play D 3 ball and have a better experience. They will have a true college life while still playing college ball. They might even get to the NCAA's, make all region be all american. [/quote]

D3? Not with those over achieving daddy ball dads and coaches! They're still hoping for a SEC school to come knocking.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/31/15 08:17 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Some of them could have had commitments and now unless they are aiming for Ivy Schools, the dream of playing college ball is almost over. Leaving that team before this upcoming Summer season is their only hope but it appears none of them are willing to take that chance. I just don't understand. What a shame. What a shame.


They can play D 3 ball and have a better experience. They will have a true college life while still playing college ball. They might even get to the NCAA's, make all region be all american. [/quote]

"Better experience"? "True College Life"? Subjective statements! If that were the case there would have been some commitments already and there are none! Not saying it's not possible but D-3 and some Ivy's have 2017 girls committed already. Based on your statement that the only way you can have a "true life while still playing college ball" is to play D-3, just isn't true. Oh, and they might even play pro softball and become president of the United States. Might as well throw that into the "Might Even" bag of tricks. At least the other teams had the common sense to leave while the going is still good. Smart move!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/31/15 03:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Some of them could have had commitments and now unless they are aiming for Ivy Schools, the dream of playing college ball is almost over. Leaving that team before this upcoming Summer season is their only hope but it appears none of them are willing to take that chance. I just don't understand. What a shame. What a shame.


They can play D 3 ball and have a better experience. They will have a true college life while still playing college ball. They might even get to the NCAA's, make all region be all american.


"Better experience"? "True College Life"? Subjective statements! If that were the case there would have been some commitments already and there are none! Not saying it's not possible but D-3 and some Ivy's have 2017 girls committed already. Based on your statement that the only way you can have a "true life while still playing college ball" is to play D-3, just isn't true. Oh, and they might even play pro softball and become president of the United States. Might as well throw that into the "Might Even" bag of tricks. At least the other teams had the common sense to leave while the going is still good. Smart move! [/quote]

These "commitments" are entirely nonbinding. Ivies and strong academic D3s don't commit students until it's certain that they have the grades/test scores to get into the school. Most juniors haven't taken the SAT. Essentially, for Ivies nothing is certain until you have a likely letter, and for top D3s nothing is certain until you have an acceptance letter from admissions. There have been players who applied to such schools thinking they had the coach's support, and got rejected or waitlisted because the coach didn't have enough swing with admissions or focused their support on other players. Keep things in perspective.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/31/15 08:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
LI Crush "futures" team gone & coaches, LI Crush "18u elite" team gone & coaches, sounds like there is trouble in Crush Nation!! Where there's smoke there's fire!!! Nothing like the Holidays when playing on the Crush!!


Like everything on this website.... No facts or truth behind it at all.
It's obvious who wrote this, so sad.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/31/15 08:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
LI Crush "futures" team gone & coaches, LI Crush "18u elite" team gone & coaches, sounds like there is trouble in Crush Nation!! Where there's smoke there's fire!!! Nothing like the Holidays when playing on the Crush!!

Seriously does any of this surprise you? It should not! Crush is such an embarrassment, I can not see how anyone would want to play for them or be a coach in such a screwed up organization.


One of the top orgs on the island right behind TLI, especially from a talent standpoint. You obviously have an ax to grind.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/31/15 08:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
LI Crush "futures" team gone & coaches, LI Crush "18u elite" team gone & coaches, sounds like there is trouble in Crush Nation!! Where there's smoke there's fire!!! Nothing like the Holidays when playing on the Crush!!

Seriously does any of this surprise you? It should not! Crush is such an embarrassment, I can not see how anyone would want to play for them or be a coach in such a screwed up organization.


All those so called "Gold" players with no verbal commitments have got to be kicking themselves in the a** for not jumping ship. They were sold empty promises from their head coach. Now it's obvious what his intentions were all along. Some of them could have had commitments and now unless they are aiming for Ivy Schools, the dream of playing college ball is almost over. Leaving that team before this upcoming Summer season is their only hope but it appears none of them are willing to take that chance. I just don't understand. What a shame. What a shame.



Spoken like someone who certainly has NO clue in regard to the recruiting process and that may be one of the only factual things written on this site. Stop writing on here because you are just embarrassing yourself to the folks who know and fully understand the process.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/31/15 08:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
So where are those two Crush teams going? Are the coaches keeping them together and finding a new home or did they disband?


I heard They didn't go any where. That's why you can't believe anything written on this site. What a joke. I guess everyone is bored.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/01/16 09:30 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Some of them could have had commitments and now unless they are aiming for Ivy Schools, the dream of playing college ball is almost over. Leaving that team before this upcoming Summer season is their only hope but it appears none of them are willing to take that chance. I just don't understand. What a shame. What a shame.


They can play D 3 ball and have a better experience. They will have a true college life while still playing college ball. They might even get to the NCAA's, make all region be all american.


"Better experience"? "True College Life"? Subjective statements! If that were the case there would have been some commitments already and there are none! Not saying it's not possible but D-3 and some Ivy's have 2017 girls committed already. Based on your statement that the only way you can have a "true life while still playing college ball" is to play D-3, just isn't true. Oh, and they might even play pro softball and become president of the United States. Might as well throw that into the "Might Even" bag of tricks. At least the other teams had the common sense to leave while the going is still good. Smart move! [/quote]

If you are a 2016 grad and expecting a top D1 program to be knocking at your door you are crazy. If anything a mid to low major will bring you on. I can tell you this you are not going to the World Series, you are not making all region, you will not be all american. You can do all of those things playing D3. You can win more games in a season than some of these D1 will in a 4 year period. At D3 the coach doesn't own you, you have a real off season, you can study abroad if you choose, you can have the whole college experience. You know some of the top D3 can beat the low level D1 programs.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/01/16 11:17 AM

Happy New Year softball fans! 2016, let's keep it positive. Don't be that lowlife who posts negative things about young players! By doing that, everyone reading it knows your really deflecting criticism of your own short comings!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/02/16 06:27 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Some of them could have had commitments and now unless they are aiming for Ivy Schools, the dream of playing college ball is almost over. Leaving that team before this upcoming Summer season is their only hope but it appears none of them are willing to take that chance. I just don't understand. What a shame. What a shame.


They can play D 3 ball and have a better experience. They will have a true college life while still playing college ball. They might even get to the NCAA's, make all region be all american.


D3? Not with those over achieving daddy ball dads and coaches! They're still hoping for a SEC school to come knocking. [/quote]

it is soooo funny listening to these fathers holding on to their DI dream (not their DD DI dream). if they haven't a sniff from a DI team by now, for graduating class of
'17, then it might be time to making sure the grades are in order then looking for your next travel team that coaches finally know what they are doing and your DD is supposedly happy on.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/03/16 08:08 AM

"ne of the top orgs on the island right behind TLI, especially from a talent standpoint. You obviously have an ax to grind "

This has to be the most delusional post of all time!
In a way you are right. They are behind TLI. But waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay behind!

You sir need help! Just when was the last time the crush beat tli?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/06/16 05:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
So where are those two Crush teams going? Are the coaches keeping them together and finding a new home or did they disband?


I heard They didn't go any where. That's why you can't believe anything written on this site. What a joke. I guess everyone is bored.


You heard wrong crush 18u elite coaches were all dismissed by Mr.Crush,several girls left team,the futures team(aka babylon blue angels) was dismantled and more than half the team left Crush & are looking for an Org possibly heading to li rebels. A new crush 16u team has been formed, made up from futures & 18u elite team folks that decided to stay, each were given a cru$$h goodie bag filled with empty promises!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/07/16 07:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
So where are those two Crush teams going? Are the coaches keeping them together and finding a new home or did they disband?


I heard They didn't go any where. That's why you can't believe anything written on this site. What a joke. I guess everyone is bored.


You heard wrong crush 18u elite coaches were all dismissed by Mr.Crush,several girls left team,the futures team(aka babylon blue angels) was dismantled and more than half the team left Crush & are looking for an Org possibly heading to li rebels. A new crush 16u team has been formed, made up from futures & 18u elite team folks that decided to stay, each were given a cru$$h goodie bag filled with empty promises!



Who the hell is "Mr Crush"?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/07/16 09:10 PM

Storm academy fastpitch on the rise..is this where all the crush and chargers when??
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/08/16 12:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
So where are those two Crush teams going? Are the coaches keeping them together and finding a new home or did they disband?


I heard They didn't go any where. That's why you can't believe anything written on this site. What a joke. I guess everyone is bored.


You heard wrong crush 18u elite coaches were all dismissed by Mr.Crush,several girls left team,the futures team(aka babylon blue angels) was dismantled and more than half the team left Crush & are looking for an Org possibly heading to li rebels. A new crush 16u team has been formed, made up from futures & 18u elite team folks that decided to stay, each were given a cru$$h goodie bag filled with empty promises!


Someone sounds a little disgruntled, guess we know why, so surprising. Played against 18U elite and the coaching on that team was not very good. The futures team was an average team at best with some talented players. the old BBA coaches we all know are clueless, all they do is cry and complain on the sidelines to anyone who would listen including us coaches from other teams. Wouldn't want them on my coaching staff or org either. Sounds like some changes were made for the better and with that comes some unhappy people.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/09/16 09:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Storm academy fastpitch on the rise..is this where all the crush and chargers when??


Another flash in the pan Daddy Ball masquerading as a travel team.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/09/16 11:25 PM

Heard Storm academy Fastpitch has a top notch workout facility, fairly priced and a solid group of girls.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/10/16 07:25 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Storm academy fastpitch on the rise..is this where all the crush and chargers when??


Another flash in the pan Daddy Ball masquerading as a travel team.


I never heard of a Storm team? What ages?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/10/16 09:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Storm academy fastpitch on the rise..is this where all the crush and chargers when??

LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL
disfunction at its finest!!!!!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/10/16 10:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Storm academy fastpitch on the rise..is this where all the crush and chargers when??

LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL
disfunction at its finest!!!!!


EX TLI 02 girls AND when they play TLI 02 it should be fun to watch
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/10/16 10:38 PM

So many people on here are bashing a necessary part of the fabric of travel fastpitch: fathers who dedicate their time and money for their student athletes to play competitive softball. For the life of me, I can't figure out what some people have against fathers who coach their kids. Think about it, in ANY other walk of life, fathers would be/are applauded for devoting time to their kids, except the one's who are softball coaches. I have never heard the backlash in other sports that I do in softball about fathers who coach their kids. Can anyone explain this phenomenon?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/11/16 06:50 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Storm academy fastpitch on the rise..is this where all the crush and chargers when??

LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL
disfunction at its finest!!!!!


EX TLI 02 girls AND when they play TLI 02 it should be fun to watch


Ex TLI ? they left TLI to join the storm fastpitch? why?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/11/16 08:07 AM

The problem isn't the act it's the motive behind it. Many times these fathers coach their own for all the wrong reasons. No different in any other sport. Looking to self promote their own child and the other coaches kids more so than any other player on the team is one example. We all know a coach that has used parents, their money, and kids for the self promotion of his/her own daughter. Matter of fact it still goes on today. Another example is the father gets involved because his daughter just isn't good enough. He can secure her playing time by coaching and then along the way he realizes he can fleece some parents and make some extra money on the side. You can find examples of both going on today in softball as well as many other sports. Once again a few bad apples always spoil the bunch.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/11/16 09:16 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
So many people on here are bashing a necessary part of the fabric of travel fastpitch: fathers who dedicate their time and money for their student athletes to play competitive softball. For the life of me, I can't figure out what some people have against fathers who coach their kids. Think about it, in ANY other walk of life, fathers would be/are applauded for devoting time to their kids, except the one's who are softball coaches. I have never heard the backlash in other sports that I do in softball about fathers who coach their kids. Can anyone explain this phenomenon?


I feel it comes from the dad playing his daughter at SS and batting her in one of the top 4 spots even though there are better SS and she should be at the bottom of the order. Just my opinion.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/11/16 10:42 AM

Because when a father coaches and his daughter is a middle of the road player, and every game she pitches and bats 3 rd, that becomes a problem.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/11/16 10:45 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
So many people on here are bashing a necessary part of the fabric of travel fastpitch: fathers who dedicate their time and money for their student athletes to play competitive softball. For the life of me, I can't figure out what some people have against fathers who coach their kids. Think about it, in ANY other walk of life, fathers would be/are applauded for devoting time to their kids, except the one's who are softball coaches. I have never heard the backlash in other sports that I do in softball about fathers who coach their kids. Can anyone explain this phenomenon?


I agree but some of the fathers bring it on themselves when they walk around spewing hate about other orgs It goes both ways. Everyone seems to forget pretty much every TLI team is "daddy coached"
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/11/16 01:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
So many people on here are bashing a necessary part of the fabric of travel fastpitch: fathers who dedicate their time and money for their student athletes to play competitive softball. For the life of me, I can't figure out what some people have against fathers who coach their kids. Think about it, in ANY other walk of life, fathers would be/are applauded for devoting time to their kids, except the one's who are softball coaches. I have never heard the backlash in other sports that I do in softball about fathers who coach their kids. Can anyone explain this phenomenon?


I agree but some of the fathers bring it on themselves when they walk around spewing hate about other orgs It goes both ways. Everyone seems to forget pretty much every TLI team is "daddy coached"


Daddy coached and Daddy Ball are 2 very different things.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/11/16 01:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
The problem isn't the act it's the motive behind it. Many times these fathers coach their own for all the wrong reasons. No different in any other sport. Looking to self promote their own child and the other coaches kids more so than any other player on the team is one example. We all know a coach that has used parents, their money, and kids for the self promotion of his/her own daughter. Matter of fact it still goes on today. Another example is the father gets involved because his daughter just isn't good enough. He can secure her playing time by coaching and then along the way he realizes he can fleece some parents and make some extra money on the side. You can find examples of both going on today in softball as well as many other sports. Once again a few bad apples always spoil the bunch.


These if the quintessential definition of Daddy Ball. Read it, and look in the mirror.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/11/16 03:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
So many people on here are bashing a necessary part of the fabric of travel fastpitch: fathers who dedicate their time and money for their student athletes to play competitive softball. For the life of me, I can't figure out what some people have against fathers who coach their kids. Think about it, in ANY other walk of life, fathers would be/are applauded for devoting time to their kids, except the one's who are softball coaches. I have never heard the backlash in other sports that I do in softball about fathers who coach their kids. Can anyone explain this phenomenon?


I feel it comes from the dad playing his daughter at SS and batting her in one of the top 4 spots even though there are better SS and she should be at the bottom of the order. Just my opinion.


Sounds like every Bellmore father
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/11/16 09:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
The problem isn't the act it's the motive behind it. Many times these fathers coach their own for all the wrong reasons. No different in any other sport. Looking to self promote their own child and the other coaches kids more so than any other player on the team is one example. We all know a coach that has used parents, their money, and kids for the self promotion of his/her own daughter. Matter of fact it still goes on today. Another example is the father gets involved because his daughter just isn't good enough. He can secure her playing time by coaching and then along the way he realizes he can fleece some parents and make some extra money on the side. You can find examples of both going on today in softball as well as many other sports. Once again a few bad apples always spoil the bunch.


Sounds like the Crush 02 manager, he fits in that category for sure. favors his kid and other coaches kids, they can do no wrong, seen it first hand when playing against them. The better players aren't playing their correct position on that team some kids in the outfield should be playing the infield over others but not over the manager and coaches kids. Thats not travel ball its daddy ball.
Posted by: BigHitterDad

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/12/16 05:50 AM

Daddy's with resources to promote their entire team because the Organzation is strong. It's different when your Daddy ball coach is lucky to talk to even one College coach or even get them invited to a college showcase.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/13/16 01:14 AM

I am unfamiliar with how TLI started. How old is the org? Did Angel start the whole thing on his own? Did/does he have/has a daughter who played with TLI or is currently playing? Did the organization have the reputation it does since it began? Very curious, little on their website about their history. TIA!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/13/16 09:25 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
The problem isn't the act it's the motive behind it. Many times these fathers coach their own for all the wrong reasons. No different in any other sport. Looking to self promote their own child and the other coaches kids more so than any other player on the team is one example. We all know a coach that has used parents, their money, and kids for the self promotion of his/her own daughter. Matter of fact it still goes on today. Another example is the father gets involved because his daughter just isn't good enough. He can secure her playing time by coaching and then along the way he realizes he can fleece some parents and make some extra money on the side. You can find examples of both going on today in softball as well as many other sports. Once again a few bad apples always spoil the bunch.


Sounds like the Crush 02 manager, he fits in that category for sure. favors his kid and other coaches kids, they can do no wrong, seen it first hand when playing against them. The better players aren't playing their correct position on that team some kids in the outfield should be playing the infield over others but not over the manager and coaches kids. Thats not travel ball its daddy ball.


Sounds luke ALL the Crush teams! They were all built on promoting daddy ball coach's daughters.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/13/16 02:07 PM

Originally Posted By: BigHitterDad
Daddy's with resources to promote their entire team because the Organzation is strong. It's different when your Daddy ball coach is lucky to talk to even one College coach or even get them invited to a college showcase.


BigHitterDad: You are Clueless so please stop trying to post about something you obviously know nothing about.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/14/16 09:08 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: BigHitterDad
Daddy's with resources to promote their entire team because the Organzation is strong. It's different when your Daddy ball coach is lucky to talk to even one College coach or even get them invited to a college showcase.


BigHitterDad: You are Clueless so please stop trying to post about something you obviously know nothing about.


Daddy Ball coaches are only interested in promoting their DD. And some where along the way they also promote the DD's of his lackey asst coaches. That in a nut shell is Daddy Ball.
Af
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/14/16 09:14 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: BigHitterDad
Daddy's with resources to promote their entire team because the Organzation is strong. It's different when your Daddy ball coach is lucky to talk to even one College coach or even get them invited to a college showcase.


BigHitterDad: You are Clueless so please stop trying to post about something you obviously know nothing about.


Daddy Ball coaches are only interested in promoting their DD. And some where along the way they also promote the DD's of his lackey asst coaches. That in a nut shell is Daddy Ball.
Af
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/14/16 09:24 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: BigHitterDad
Daddy's with resources to promote their entire team because the Organzation is strong. It's different when your Daddy ball coach is lucky to talk to even one College coach or even get them invited to a college showcase.


BigHitterDad: You are Clueless so please stop trying to post about something you obviously know nothing about.


Big hitter hit the nail right on the head!
Posted by: BigHitterDad

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/14/16 09:15 PM

Coming from Mr Anonymous. I only know what I see first hand. Wish I knew what you were posting but I guess we won't because you hide like a coward.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/15/16 08:24 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I am unfamiliar with how TLI started. How old is the org? Did Angel start the whole thing on his own? Did/does he have/has a daughter who played with TLI or is currently playing? Did the organization have the reputation it does since it began? Very curious, little on their website about their history. TIA!


I know Angels daughter played at one point but I think she gave it up around 16 (if I remember right) It's a good organization. Good practices BUT don't fool yourself that it is the only way to get to college. Look at the 2016 girls - maybe half committed to college and not all D1 (but that could be by choice who knows). The 2017 (99 team) have a good few commits to D1s but that will probably be it. The other girls will land somewhere just like us mere mortals who play for other teams
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/15/16 08:38 AM

Sometimes a player can be a star on one team, but just be one of the mix on another team. There is a team to suit everybody's needs. As long as the girls are happy. And, remember, some kids didn't make the cut for the new year.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/15/16 08:48 AM

This should help explain... guess who the coaches of the team are- the fathers of the "ex tli girls"
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/15/16 07:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
This should help explain... guess who the coaches of the team are- the fathers of the "ex tli girls"


Who? Angry short guy? Sorry. Vertically challenged.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/15/16 10:53 PM

Actually, all the seniors in the organization commited. The last one to do so was about two weeks ago.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/16/16 02:00 PM

Angel started TLI many years ago - It used to be called BP All Stars. Angel worked for the Baseball Plus place in Freeport I think and then it was sold or something. don't know much else but he has been around for a long time.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/17/16 08:49 AM

Most,if not all travel teams start with or have a dad coaching. If you can name even one that isn't , I would be surprised.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/18/16 12:32 PM

Originally Posted By: BigHitterDad
Coming from Mr Anonymous. I only know what I see first hand. Wish I knew what you were posting but I guess we won't because you hide like a coward.


Oh Yeah...I guess calling yourself "BigHitterDad" really lets us know who you are...too funny. you might as well just leave it as anonymous.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/19/16 03:18 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Actually, all the seniors in the organization commited. The last one to do so was about two weeks ago.


That's because the other half either quit softball or left the org.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/22/16 07:01 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Angel started TLI many years ago - It used to be called BP All Stars. Angel worked for the Baseball Plus place in Freeport I think and then it was sold or something. don't know much else but he has been around for a long time.


you can't argue with the success they have. you can say you don't like they way they do it. you can say you don't want to travel. you can say you don't want to play year round. all of those are legit. but you can not say they don't deliver. he knows talent, he develops player. you go/stay with your daddy ball but knock what this guy has done for his players
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/22/16 09:28 AM

Actually, all 20 seniors in tli class of 2016 comitted to play in college. Congrats to all those girls and good luck to them!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/23/16 07:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Actually, all 20 seniors in tli class of 2016 comitted to play in college. Congrats to all those girls and good luck to them!



Lies. List the name and schools. I know of at least 4 2016 girls who left or quit TLI this past year because they weren't verballed yet. So count new girls who may have just gone to the org who were already committed There is nothing wrong with teams not being able to get all girls committed. What is wrong is lying about it. It's misleading
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/24/16 12:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Actually, all 20 seniors in tli class of 2016 comitted to play in college. Congrats to all those girls and good luck to them!



Lies. List the name and schools. I know of at least 4 2016 girls who left or quit TLI this past year because they weren't verballed yet. So count new girls who may have just gone to the org who were already committed There is nothing wrong with teams not being able to get all girls committed. What is wrong is lying about it. It's misleading



Yes they left. Are you sure it is because they weren't verballed? Probably not. Now there was one that probably did leave because she felt that she was being left behind. Then again kids leave because of different reasons. So Einstein, wouldn't the 20 kids that verballed outweighs the 4 that left for different reasons?

What's your teams success rate for 2016?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/24/16 12:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Actually, all 20 seniors in tli class of 2016 comitted to play in college. Congrats to all those girls and good luck to them!



Lies. List the name and schools. I know of at least 4 2016 girls who left or quit TLI this past year because they weren't verballed yet. So count new girls who may have just gone to the org who were already committed There is nothing wrong with teams not being able to get all girls committed. What is wrong is lying about it. It's misleading



Just check their website, smart guy.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/24/16 12:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Actually, all 20 seniors in tli class of 2016 comitted to play in college. Congrats to all those girls and good luck to them!



Lies. List the name and schools. I know of at least 4 2016 girls who left or quit TLI this past year because they weren't verballed yet. So count new girls who may have just gone to the org who were already committed There is nothing wrong with teams not being able to get all girls committed. What is wrong is lying about it. It's misleading



One got her verbal from a D1 school then left tli for a less rigorous travel schedule.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/24/16 05:00 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Actually, all 20 seniors in tli class of 2016 comitted to play in college. Congrats to all those girls and good luck to them!



Lies. List the name and schools. I know of at least 4 2016 girls who left or quit TLI this past year because they weren't verballed yet. So count new girls who may have just gone to the org who were already committed There is nothing wrong with teams not being able to get all girls committed. What is wrong is lying about it. It's misleading

Not Lies....check the website. How about you name the 4 girls that you say left because they weren't committed, & also tell us who they are now playing for, & also what college the new organization got them committed to.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/25/16 02:23 AM

Just to clarify for the bozos out there. I will name a few of the many 2002 birth year teams that has a daddy as a coach. And these are the top ones.
Team LI - 1 daddy and 1 mommy coach, Crush - 3 daddy coaches, Storm - 2 daddy coaches, Nitro - 3 daddy coaches, and I can go on and on and on. So stop with all the sh*# talk and be truthful. Ex TLI players went to storm, great. I know TLI players that went to Crush and Nitro too. I also know Crush and Nitro players that went to TLI. So what!!!! All of these girls are still friends so stop all the rubbish talk because it sounds idiotic. If you don't want a dad involved there's TLI 03, go there because you won't get any more fair ball than that.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/25/16 11:34 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Actually, all 20 seniors in tli class of 2016 comitted to play in college. Congrats to all those girls and good luck to them!



Lies. List the name and schools. I know of at least 4 2016 girls who left or quit TLI this past year because they weren't verballed yet. So count new girls who may have just gone to the org who were already committed There is nothing wrong with teams not being able to get all girls committed. What is wrong is lying about it. It's misleading

Not Lies....check the website. How about you name the 4 girls that you say left because they weren't committed, & also tell us who they are now playing for, & also what college the new organization got them committed to.


They left and are not playing anymore.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/26/16 03:09 PM

Wow the storm is a top team?? who knew, did they play any games, win nationals. where did they come from??? Thought the surge was the team to beat? No daddy, mommy teams there. That might be the other org to go to, not sure what there fees are.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/27/16 12:12 AM

ANGEL IS A DAD! I AM A DAD. YOU ARE A DAD.

HAHAH

That is how TLI started.

Get the [***censored***] over it. Dads coach. STFU already.

Holy [***censored***].

#daddyball
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/28/16 11:46 PM

********************.com
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/29/16 04:33 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
ANGEL IS A DAD! I AM A DAD. YOU ARE A DAD.

HAHAH

That is how TLI started.

Get the [***censored***] over it. Dads coach. STFU already.

Holy [***censored***].

#daddyball


#gocrush
#drinkmorelightbeer
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/29/16 04:37 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Wow the storm is a top team?? who knew, did they play any games, win nationals. where did they come from??? Thought the surge was the team to beat? No daddy, mommy teams there. That might be the other org to go to, not sure what there fees are.


Another team destined for greatness! Again. Havent played a game yet though they are the best on the island already.

What a joke.
A team made up of dd's that have a collection of uniforms. Because daddy know it all gets to be a malcontent 5 games into the season and then starts searching for a new twam.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/29/16 12:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
ANGEL IS A DAD! I AM A DAD. YOU ARE A DAD.

HAHAH

That is how TLI started.

Get the [***censored***] over it. Dads coach. STFU already.

Holy [***censored***].

#daddyball


This doesn't make any sense at all. You have no idea what you are talking about.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/29/16 11:24 PM

Knock... Knock... Who is there? Three daddys. Three daddys from where? Three daddys that coach the biggest daddy ball team on Long Island. One is a nice guy but is nothing more than a front man and a parent puppet, the next is a cheerleader that loves to yell out coaches clichés and the last ( I saved the best for last) is a complete blow hard who knows nothing about the game and is trying to shelter his DD because he knows if he doesn't coach her she would get exposed completely. Let the guessing begin....
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/30/16 09:57 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Knock... Knock... Who is there? Three daddys. Three daddys from where? Three daddys that coach the biggest daddy ball team on Long Island. One is a nice guy but is nothing more than a front man and a parent puppet, the next is a cheerleader that loves to yell out coaches clichés and the last ( I saved the best for last) is a complete blow hard who knows nothing about the game and is trying to shelter his DD because he knows if he doesn't coach her she would get exposed completely. Let the guessing begin....


Go Crush!

Just win baby!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/30/16 12:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Knock... Knock... Who is there? Three daddys. Three daddys from where? Three daddys that coach the biggest daddy ball team on Long Island. One is a nice guy but is nothing more than a front man and a parent puppet, the next is a cheerleader that loves to yell out coaches clichés and the last ( I saved the best for last) is a complete blow hard who knows nothing about the game and is trying to shelter his DD because he knows if he doesn't coach her she would get exposed completely. Let the guessing begin....


That is "extremely" obvious lol
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/30/16 02:31 PM

My guess NItro 02?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/30/16 05:12 PM

Wow, you hit the nail HARD!!!!!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/30/16 11:34 PM

Oh pick me pick me....I know I know!!!!!!

Do we have to use real names or descriptions?!

Daddy Ball 2016

#smd
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/31/16 08:38 AM

Time to clear this thread and start fresh!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/31/16 05:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Knock... Knock... Who is there? Three daddys. Three daddys from where? Three daddys that coach the biggest daddy ball team on Long Island. One is a nice guy but is nothing more than a front man and a parent puppet, the next is a cheerleader that loves to yell out coaches clichés and the last ( I saved the best for last) is a complete blow hard who knows nothing about the game and is trying to shelter his DD because he knows if he doesn't coach her she would get exposed completely. Let the guessing begin....


That is "extremely" obvious lol


I thought it was described Extremelly well
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/01/16 01:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Knock... Knock... Who is there? Three daddys. Three daddys from where? Three daddys that coach the biggest daddy ball team on Long Island. One is a nice guy but is nothing more than a front man and a parent puppet, the next is a cheerleader that loves to yell out coaches clichés and the last ( I saved the best for last) is a complete blow hard who knows nothing about the game and is trying to shelter his DD because he knows if he doesn't coach her she would get exposed completely. Let the guessing begin....


The characterization of those 3 that you mentioned are a little extreme. Could you give us thick headed blokes a clue? Maybe their first names?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/03/16 09:45 AM

Does someone feel exposed? Truth hurts? Don't like what you see in the mirrior. Ding dong it's the doorbell this time.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/04/16 04:30 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Does someone feel exposed? Truth hurts? Don't like what you see in the mirrior. Ding dong it's the doorbell this time.


Maybe it's just your fly.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/04/16 10:51 PM

So many philosophers on here, gotta love it.
Posted by: Softballdad15

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/05/16 06:51 AM

A couple of points on a couple of subjects......

Angel, tho I do not know him personally, from what I understand, he built TLI. And did a fine job. He is turning that organization into a name that is known in the softball world ( NE at least), and if he gets paid for it.... who cares. In my mind, he's earned it.

Daddy / Mommy coaches... Why are people so caught up with this????
10U 12U 14U are mostly parent coached teams. The good organizations tho...still, may have parents manage games, and are the faces you see on Sat and Sun, but have trainers and or prior college players come in to run practices, where the game is actually learned.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/05/16 05:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Softballdad15
A couple of points on a couple of subjects......

Angel, tho I do not know him personally, from what I understand, he built TLI. And did a fine job. He is turning that organization into a name that is known in the softball world ( NE at least), and if he gets paid for it.... who cares. In my mind, he's earned it.

Daddy / Mommy coaches... Why are people so caught up with this????
10U 12U 14U are mostly parent coached teams. The good organizations tho...still, may have parents manage games, and are the faces you see on Sat and Sun, but have trainers and or prior college players come in to run practices, where the game is actually learned.


Spoken like a true Daddy who doesn't get it at all. Everyone needs to be honest hear with their teams and so called ex college players. while there are some who do a really good job at coaching their teams, the majority do not and are in it for the money only. They understand the game and can play, maybe even run a practice, but when it comes to the rules, x's and o's they are completeley lost. there is more to coaching that they will never do or have the desire to do, so be real. You think your ex college player really cares about your kid and if she gets better? the answer is NO, they could care less and move on to the next player or they will go right away for come to me for private lessons so I can teach her one to one and develop her into a better player.... what a joke all suckers out there. The majority of ex college players that are out there now coaching were never really good to begin with. Just sit back and watch and observe them and what they are about with an open mind of course, see how long they ask for the private lesson and they sit back and laugh all the way to the bank.
Posted by: Softballdad15

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/06/16 08:16 AM

Actually...I DO get it....

And was 3 paragraphs deep, when I decided to delete, and ask you a question Mr. Wizzard.... What is your solution? I mean, for everyone else of course, as you know best, and no one on the planet can teach your daughter as well as you.

Thank you in advance.

BTW... That word "daddy" gets thrown around a lot on this sight, in a negative tone, as you did. I actually get a kick when she calls me that. ( although, it's mainly when she wants something)
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/07/16 05:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Softballdad15
A couple of points on a couple of subjects......

Angel, tho I do not know him personally, from what I understand, he built TLI. And did a fine job. He is turning that organization into a name that is known in the softball world ( NE at least), and if he gets paid for it.... who cares. In my mind, he's earned it.

Daddy / Mommy coaches... Why are people so caught up with this????
10U 12U 14U are mostly parent coached teams. The good organizations tho...still, may have parents manage games, and are the faces you see on Sat and Sun, but have trainers and or prior college players come in to run practices, where the game is actually learned.


Spoken like a true Daddy who doesn't get it at all. Everyone needs to be honest hear with their teams and so called ex college players. while there are some who do a really good job at coaching their teams, the majority do not and are in it for the money only. They understand the game and can play, maybe even run a practice, but when it comes to the rules, x's and o's they are completeley lost. there is more to coaching that they will never do or have the desire to do, so be real. You think your ex college player really cares about your kid and if she gets better? the answer is NO, they could care less and move on to the next player or they will go right away for come to me for private lessons so I can teach her one to one and develop her into a better player.... what a joke all suckers out there. The majority of ex college players that are out there now coaching were never really good to begin with. Just sit back and watch and observe them and what they are about with an open mind of course, see how long they ask for the private lesson and they sit back and laugh all the way to the bank.


Not fair saying all former players do not care. Like any other area of life, there are those who are passionate, those who care and those who are doing it for all the wrong reasons. In the long run the good once rise to the top.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/08/16 09:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Softballdad15
Actually...I DO get it....

And was 3 paragraphs deep, when I decided to delete, and ask you a question Mr. Wizzard.... What is your solution? I mean, for everyone else of course, as you know best, and no one on the planet can teach your daughter as well as you.

Thank you in advance.

BTW... That word "daddy" gets thrown around a lot on this sight, in a negative tone, as you did. I actually get a kick when she calls me that. ( although, it's mainly when she wants something)


You have no clues as your post shows. Have another beer, but stick to light would you. Somehow I don't think you could write three paragraphs...











Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/08/16 09:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Softballdad15
A couple of points on a couple of subjects......

Angel, tho I do not know him personally, from what I understand, he built TLI. And did a fine job. He is turning that organization into a name that is known in the softball world ( NE at least), and if he gets paid for it.... who cares. In my mind, he's earned it.

Daddy / Mommy coaches... Why are people so caught up with this????
10U 12U 14U are mostly parent coached teams. The good organizations tho...still, may have parents manage games, and are the faces you see on Sat and Sun, but have trainers and or prior college players come in to run practices, where the game is actually learned.


Spoken like a true Daddy who doesn't get it at all. Everyone needs to be honest hear with their teams and so called ex college players. while there are some who do a really good job at coaching their teams, the majority do not and are in it for the money only. They understand the game and can play, maybe even run a practice, but when it comes to the rules, x's and o's they are completeley lost. there is more to coaching that they will never do or have the desire to do, so be real. You think your ex college player really cares about your kid and if she gets better? the answer is NO, they could care less and move on to the next player or they will go right away for come to me for private lessons so I can teach her one to one and develop her into a better player.... what a joke all suckers out there. The majority of ex college players that are out there now coaching were never really good to begin with. Just sit back and watch and observe them and what they are about with an open mind of course, see how long they ask for the private lesson and they sit back and laugh all the way to the bank.


Not fair saying all former players do not care. Like any other area of life, there are those who are passionate, those who care and those who are doing it for all the wrong reasons. In the long run the good once rise to the top.


Yes but passion and wanting to give back to the game shouldn't include parents going deeper and deeper into their wallets which lets face is what they do. Look at all those "great" former college players out their coaching teams. Perfect example of what you don't want your daughter to be in life. They go to school for four years get a degree and can't get a job in the real world...MMmmmmm...wonder why. Could it be a character thing that folks who do hiring see and pick up on...Maybe. I'm sure that's what they were thinking when they were getting recruited lets go to this school and after my times up I'll go coach travel ball and give lessons while I'm developing my career.... More like no career and direction in life, so they coach and steal parents money for lessons as well as coaching their kids and pay big money for what??? Ask yourself is that who I really want my daughter looking up to or who I want her to be around or to lead her..... I would think not, but I guess you will see and learn for yourself, another Daddy living through his daughter because he couldn't accomplish anything in sports. Save your money for her schooling because you will need it.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/10/16 04:59 PM

Great "chalk talk" session at Adelphi hitting clinic last weekend. Wish they could come on here and talk recruiting! One of the best points they made was that people think D1 schools have the "best" players, d2 have the middle of the road and D3 have the lower. NOT TRUE AT ALL! It was a refreshing session one all should attend.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/11/16 09:15 AM

Not fair saying all former players do not care. Like any other area of life, there are those who are passionate, those who care and those who are doing it for all the wrong reasons. In the long run the good once rise to the top. [/quote]

Yes but passion and wanting to give back to the game shouldn't include parents going deeper and deeper into their wallets which lets face is what they do. Look at all those "great" former college players out their coaching teams. Perfect example of what you don't want your daughter to be in life. They go to school for four years get a degree and can't get a job in the real world...MMmmmmm...wonder why. Could it be a character thing that folks who do hiring see and pick up on...Maybe. I'm sure that's what they were thinking when they were getting recruited lets go to this school and after my times up I'll go coach travel ball and give lessons while I'm developing my career.... More like no career and direction in life, so they coach and steal parents money for lessons as well as coaching their kids and pay big money for what??? Ask yourself is that who I really want my daughter looking up to or who I want her to be around or to lead her..... I would think not, but I guess you will see and learn for yourself, another Daddy living through his daughter because he couldn't accomplish anything in sports. Save your money for her schooling because you will need it.[/quote]


There is nothing wrong with coaching a team and giving lessons if its a supplement to your next level of schooling. I think the problem described here is that the parent and players focused their school decision on the division of softball rather than if it was the right school for them academically. Now after four years of college and playing ball they have to play catch up with the players who focused on what will best help them in their career first.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/11/16 09:18 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Softballdad15
A couple of points on a couple of subjects......

Angel, tho I do not know him personally, from what I understand, he built TLI. And did a fine job. He is turning that organization into a name that is known in the softball world ( NE at least), and if he gets paid for it.... who cares. In my mind, he's earned it.

Daddy / Mommy coaches... Why are people so caught up with this????
10U 12U 14U are mostly parent coached teams. The good organizations tho...still, may have parents manage games, and are the faces you see on Sat and Sun, but have trainers and or prior college players come in to run practices, where the game is actually learned.


Spoken like a true Daddy who doesn't get it at all. Everyone needs to be honest hear with their teams and so called ex college players. while there are some who do a really good job at coaching their teams, the majority do not and are in it for the money only. They understand the game and can play, maybe even run a practice, but when it comes to the rules, x's and o's they are completeley lost. there is more to coaching that they will never do or have the desire to do, so be real. You think your ex college player really cares about your kid and if she gets better? the answer is NO, they could care less and move on to the next player or they will go right away for come to me for private lessons so I can teach her one to one and develop her into a better player.... what a joke all suckers out there. The majority of ex college players that are out there now coaching were never really good to begin with. Just sit back and watch and observe them and what they are about with an open mind of course, see how long they ask for the private lesson and they sit back and laugh all the way to the bank.


Not fair saying all former players do not care. Like any other area of life, there are those who are passionate, those who care and those who are doing it for all the wrong reasons. In the long run the good once rise to the top.


Yes but passion and wanting to give back to the game shouldn't include parents going deeper and deeper into their wallets which lets face is what they do. Look at all those "great" former college players out their coaching teams. Perfect example of what you don't want your daughter to be in life. They go to school for four years get a degree and can't get a job in the real world...MMmmmmm...wonder why. Could it be a character thing that folks who do hiring see and pick up on...Maybe. I'm sure that's what they were thinking when they were getting recruited lets go to this school and after my times up I'll go coach travel ball and give lessons while I'm developing my career.... More like no career and direction in life, so they coach and steal parents money for lessons as well as coaching their kids and pay big money for what??? Ask yourself is that who I really want my daughter looking up to or who I want her to be around or to lead her..... I would think not, but I guess you will see and learn for yourself, another Daddy living through his daughter because he couldn't accomplish anything in sports. Save your money for her schooling because you will need it.


Another alpha male wanna be spewing his gender bias bs. Lets see what your darling daughter does after college. Of course we know she won't be coaching travel ball or giving lessons because we know all she knows about softball came from you and in the grand scheme of things amounts to. 0001% about softball. Has it occured to your one track mind that maybe just maybe we love the sport as much as you love your light beer?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/11/16 12:39 PM

So you think the players that play D2 and D3 softball,baseball,basketball,football,lax and other sports have better players than D1 schools. Wow you need to go see some games for yourself. Their are D1 caliber players playing D2 and D3 but the vast majority are playing at the level their talent dictates. Lower division coaches always try to sell you on that point.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/11/16 03:26 PM

Ok so what did the Adelphi coaches say?? all the teams have a mixed level of players some more than others I would guess. Ok for the parents to contact the coaches and email??
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/12/16 04:36 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Great "chalk talk" session at Adelphi hitting clinic last weekend. Wish they could come on here and talk recruiting! One of the best points they made was that people think D1 schools have the "best" players, d2 have the middle of the road and D3 have the lower. NOT TRUE AT ALL! It was a refreshing session one all should attend.


You can check Adelphi's stats against D1 schools and see if their team has the better players. They probably have won 25% of their games against D1 schools.
That asst coach over there can sell snow to an eskimo.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/12/16 11:44 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
So you think the players that play D2 and D3 softball,baseball,basketball,football,lax and other sports have better players than D1 schools. Wow you need to go see some games for yourself. Their are D1 caliber players playing D2 and D3 but the vast majority are playing at the level their talent dictates. Lower division coaches always try to sell you on that point.


so much for trying to make a point and have a mature conversation on this site!!!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/12/16 12:18 PM

It a nerve, I guess. Thanks for letting me know I was right and for making my point even more.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/12/16 05:31 PM

Sure, they can contact coaches
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/16/16 12:08 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
So you think the players that play D2 and D3 softball,baseball,basketball,football,lax and other sports have better players than D1 schools. Wow you need to go see some games for yourself. Their are D1 caliber players playing D2 and D3 but the vast majority are playing at the level their talent dictates. Lower division coaches always try to sell you on that point.


so much for trying to make a point and have a mature conversation on this site!!!


No chance of that happening!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/16/16 12:17 PM

When has Adelphi played a D1 school during the season?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/17/16 10:33 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
When has Adelphi played a D1 school during the season?


I think you are all missing the posters point. But no matter what you think Adelphi is doing something right. Rated #7 nationally for all D2 schools. That is pretty cool!! Some good NY schools represented in D2 and D3
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/22/16 09:45 PM

Adelphi use to be D1 years ago but still a good program
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/24/16 07:37 AM

Just an interesting nugget...DD was recently at a division 1 softball school for a clinic. In the q and a session after the clinic, the coach told us that as long as you're in one of those very good tournaments, it doesn't matter if your team is not on the main fields. If the coach likes the player, they'll go looking for the player.
Posted by: Fastpitch Junkie

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/25/16 08:06 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Just an interesting nugget...DD was recently at a division 1 softball school for a clinic. In the q and a session after the clinic, the coach told us that as long as you're in one of those very good tournaments, it doesn't matter if your team is not on the main fields. If the coach likes the player, they'll go looking for the player.


For the most part that is true, the complication comes in when the secondary fields are a distance away from the main fields then the travel time might be a problem. Especially if the coach wants to see others playing at the main complex after your DD plays. But for the most part, if a coach is at that particular tourney and they like your DD, they will find time to come see her play.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/25/16 09:38 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Just an interesting nugget...DD was recently at a division 1 softball school for a clinic. In the q and a session after the clinic, the coach told us that as long as you're in one of those very good tournaments, it doesn't matter if your team is not on the main fields. If the coach likes the player, they'll go looking for the player.


I agree with this but I think the issue for most Long Island players is that what we consider a "very good tournament" and what they consider a "very good tournament" are two different things. I'm not saying that it can't happen, you just need to work harder to get them to notice you. Don't show up at a camp one time and expect them to throw money at you. You need to be persistent and keep going, email, sending video etc (persistent but not annoying!) Anything you can do to keep your name in their head.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/25/16 10:19 AM

The bottom line is this, If the player emails the coaches and visits the school and attends there clinics and follows up with sending the coaches her schedule yes they will seek the player out, But that really only happens if she is a stud pitcher, or catcher who can hit the crap out of the ball. If that is not the case you will never see a college coach leave the main fields. Stop and take the time as a parent and do your homework. Put your DD in a organization that only plays on the main fields and only plays in showcases of the island.
Colleges are looking for 2019, and 2020 already. And the most important thing is the GPA AVG, SAT & ACT Scores.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/29/16 05:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Fastpitch Junkie
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Just an interesting nugget...DD was recently at a division 1 softball school for a clinic. In the q and a session after the clinic, the coach told us that as long as you're in one of those very good tournaments, it doesn't matter if your team is not on the main fields. If the coach likes the player, they'll go looking for the player.


For the most part that is true, the complication comes in when the secondary fields are a distance away from the main fields then the travel time might be a problem. Especially if the coach wants to see others playing at the main complex after your DD plays. But for the most part, if a coach is at that particular tourney and they like your DD, they will find time to come see her play.



College coaches are recruiting players and not fields or complexes. Yes, it helps if you want to be seen by a particular coach and they just happen to stop and watch your game and notice you but lets be real that usually doesn't happen very often. Coaches don't mind driving to other complexes to see a player they are truly interested in and are recruiting. If a coach is at a tournament and they aren't coming to see you specifically, then don't expect to get recruited or seen, unless that coach may be watching another player on the other team. They iron out their tournament schedule based on players they are recruiting.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 02/29/16 05:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
The bottom line is this, If the player emails the coaches and visits the school and attends there clinics and follows up with sending the coaches her schedule yes they will seek the player out, But that really only happens if she is a stud pitcher, or catcher who can hit the crap out of the ball. If that is not the case you will never see a college coach leave the main fields. Stop and take the time as a parent and do your homework. Put your DD in a organization that only plays on the main fields and only plays in showcases of the island.
Colleges are looking for 2019, and 2020 already. And the most important thing is the GPA AVG, SAT & ACT Scores.


Stop giving false information, so not true!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/01/16 07:17 AM

Email coaches, go to selected clinics (schools your actually interested in). Play on an established travel team ( doesn't really matter which ones). Play in tournaments in which your desired schools are attending. Let coaches know your there. Then most of all, practice hard, and often! Play school ball for the great experience of representing your town ( no matter who the coach is, learn to deal with it)There is no real magical formula. The cream will rise to the top! Play as many games as you can.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/01/16 09:33 PM

What does DD mean?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/03/16 06:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What does DD mean?



Ever hear of google?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/03/16 06:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Email coaches, go to selected clinics (schools your actually interested in). Play on an established travel team ( doesn't really matter which ones). Play in tournaments in which your desired schools are attending. Let coaches know your there. Then most of all, practice hard, and often! Play school ball for the great experience of representing your town ( no matter who the coach is, learn to deal with it)There is no real magical formula. The cream will rise to the top! Play as many games as you can.


I 100% agree with this.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/04/16 07:10 AM

Darling Daughter
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/04/16 08:43 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What does DD mean?



Ever hear of google?


Geez Louise you are a nasty person!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/04/16 10:17 PM

So who are the best coaches out there. We talk about the players all the time but what about the coaches of these travel organizations
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/05/16 11:07 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What does DD mean?



Ever hear of google?
ever

Ever hear of? That's what this forum is for, to provide info and help your fellow human....It was a simple question and all you had to do was provide a simple answer...After all, I'm sure you're a simple person. I must thank the individual who actually did what was asked, answer the question...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/05/16 09:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What does DD mean?



Ever hear of google?
ever

Ever hear of? That's what this forum is for, to provide info and help your fellow human....It was a simple question and all you had to do was provide a simple answer...After all, I'm sure you're a simple person. I must thank the individual who actually did what was asked, answer the question...


Apparently your sense of entitlement is oozing through every pore of your skin. How hard is it to do a search on Google? How hard is it to skim through threads here in this forum and find out the meaning of DD? Not hard. But i know i know. Its easier to ask. And your always ised to having enablers around to cater to your every whim. Must be nice to have someone on your beck and call. You must be a Crush parent.

Just win baby!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/06/16 05:51 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
So who are the best coaches out there. We talk about the players all the time but what about the coaches of these travel organizations


Crush! Bar none!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/08/16 08:34 AM

lets start with the Crush, who are the coaches for each team and what experience/background do they have in softball/baseball?No coach Bio's on website? Maybe someone can enlighten the softball community.
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
So who are the best coaches out there. We talk about the players all the time but what about the coaches of these travel organizations
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/09/16 07:46 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
lets start with the Crush, who are the coaches for each team and what experience/background do they have in softball/baseball?No coach Bio's on website? Maybe someone can enlighten the softball community.
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
So who are the best coaches out there. We talk about the players all the time but what about the coaches of these travel organizations


I guess we should not talk about their troubles with the law also!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/09/16 04:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
lets start with the Crush, who are the coaches for each team and what experience/background do they have in softball/baseball?No coach Bio's on website? Maybe someone can enlighten the softball community.[quote=Anonymous]So who are the best coaches out there. We talk about the players all the time but what about the coaches of these travel organizations
[/quote

I don't see anything up on team li site in regard to coaches bio's. The ones who put that stuff up are the ones who need to sell their org as they don't produce results or develop their players. Just another sales pitch to take your money. You people will never get it.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/09/16 04:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What does DD mean?



Ever hear of google?
ever

Ever hear of? That's what this forum is for, to provide info and help your fellow human....It was a simple question and all you had to do was provide a simple answer...After all, I'm sure you're a simple person. I must thank the individual who actually did what was asked, answer the question...


Apparently your sense of entitlement is oozing through every pore of your skin. How hard is it to do a search on Google? How hard is it to skim through threads here in this forum and find out the meaning of DD? Not hard. But i know i know. Its easier to ask. And your always ised to having enablers around to cater to your every whim. Must be nice to have someone on your beck and call. You must be a Crush parent.

Just win baby!


Don't think so, just another idiot on here pretending to be a crush parent.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/09/16 09:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What does DD mean?



Ever hear of google?
ever

Ever hear of? That's what this forum is for, to provide info and help your fellow human....It was a simple question and all you had to do was provide a simple answer...After all, I'm sure you're a simple person. I must thank the individual who actually did what was asked, answer the question...


Apparently your sense of entitlement is oozing through every pore of your skin. How hard is it to do a search on Google? How hard is it to skim through threads here in this forum and find out the meaning of DD? Not hard. But i know i know. Its easier to ask. And your always ised to having enablers around to cater to your every whim. Must be nice to have someone on your beck and call. You must be a Crush parent.

Just win baby!


You hit on the head, in fact I just picked up my new Hellcat in Crush colors...All we do is win Baby!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/11/16 04:06 AM

Why would someone pretend to be a crush parent? Thats like pretending to be an intelect.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/12/16 09:33 PM

Funny dan you left again, next stop where it all began LAC
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/13/16 07:53 PM

Most coaches are hard working average joes, with a love for the game. Some are just not meant to coach youth sports. Figure a good fit for your situation, and run with it!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/15/16 08:07 PM

WOW the Bandits are at it again taking parents money and only playing on the island in 6 tournament. Look at the Bandits web site, see it for yourself. 12U is a joke, 14U is a joke, 16 U is falling apart, and the three 18U teams except for the gold is a joke. Keep spending all that money for DADDY BALL & THE BUILDING. All the best player are either at Team Long Island, Express, Tc Tremers, or Chargers. This organization is the same and if not WORSE then the Ducks who don,t have any talent and the Surge. The Chiefs and Rebels are better and that should just about tell the whole story. They only care about the $$$$ and if you Question where the money is going. They make up crap about the players and even the parents and tell you to move on. Wise up and get out before your daughters are juniors and seniors and have NO WHERE TO GO.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/17/16 12:06 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
WOW the Bandits are at it again taking parents money and only playing on the island in 6 tournament. Look at the Bandits web site, see it for yourself. 12U is a joke, 14U is a joke, 16 U is falling apart, and the three 18U teams except for the gold is a joke. Keep spending all that money for DADDY BALL & THE BUILDING. All the best player are either at Team Long Island, Express, Tc Tremers, or Chargers. This organization is the same and if not WORSE then the Ducks who don,t have any talent and the Surge. The Chiefs and Rebels are better and that should just about tell the whole story. They only care about the $$$$ and if you Question where the money is going. They make up crap about the players and even the parents and tell you to move on. Wise up and get out before your daughters are juniors and seniors and have NO WHERE TO GO.


Bandits have had a bad reputation for years no don't know why anyone would play there especially UNLESS you are on the Gold team. Agree with the other teams listed being tops on the Island. Some are losing seniors this year -if you think you can cut it I would try out for them. I don't know about the Chargers but the other three (Team LI, Tremors and Express) are all very selective so bring your A game
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/17/16 12:33 PM

Didn't one of the top bandit teams jump/run to TLI?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/18/16 11:58 AM

Why are you so bitter? Just let people be. If you have something of value, then say it. But seriously, everyone needs to stop the trash talk. It is TRAVEL SOFTBALL, certainly not what it used to be, but that's the way it is....played for many different reasons by many girls at all ability levels.... that's the reality. So if everyone just worried about their own kid, and their own choices, maybe there could actually be some valuable information shared on this site.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/19/16 10:57 AM

" Take the Money and Run"

Bandits team song.
Posted by: BigHitterDad

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/23/16 05:48 AM

Did anyone see how many of the girls listed in Neesday were from TLI. OMG! They must know something over there.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/24/16 07:10 PM

Originally Posted By: BigHitterDad
Did anyone see how many of the girls listed in Neesday were from TLI. OMG! They must know something over there.

they know something or...Someone (i think a parent has the Newsday guys ears-both of them)
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/25/16 05:35 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: BigHitterDad
Did anyone see how many of the girls listed in Neesday were from TLI. OMG! They must know something over there.

they know something or...Someone (i think a parent has the Newsday guys ears-both of them)


if you are on TLI you deserve to be on Newsdays list, why wouldn't they be on the list, they have the best players bar-none.
if you go to a Catholic school you can certainly you have a better chance of being named also that is because they have someones ear at that rag.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/25/16 06:01 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: BigHitterDad
Did anyone see how many of the girls listed in Neesday were from TLI. OMG! They must know something over there.

they know something or...Someone (i think a parent has the Newsday guys ears-both of them)


Maybe the girls are worthy of the recognition.
What do you y think sparky? Your DD not part of the list?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/25/16 07:07 AM

So funny. If someone is on the list, it's legitimate, if they're not on it, it's rigged. Can't say it enough, there is no magic formula! Work hard and stop complaining about being fair. If you stand out, you will be recognized by the people who matter.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/25/16 08:01 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: BigHitterDad
Did anyone see how many of the girls listed in Neesday were from TLI. OMG! They must know something over there.

they know something or...Someone (i think a parent has the Newsday guys ears-both of them)


Maybe the girls are worthy of the recognition.
What do you y think sparky? Your DD not part of the list?


Yes, the girls are worthy of the recognition. Would love to see those 100 mix it up in a tournament of champions.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/25/16 08:12 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: BigHitterDad
Did anyone see how many of the girls listed in Neesday were from TLI. OMG! They must know something over there.

they know something or...Someone (i think a parent has the Newsday guys ears-both of them)


if you are on TLI you deserve to be on Newsdays list, why wouldn't they be on the list, they have the best players bar-none.
if you go to a Catholic school you can certainly you have a better chance of being named also that is because they have someones ear at that rag.



Go Crush!

Just Win Baby!!

Winning tradition since 2004.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/25/16 08:17 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: BigHitterDad
Did anyone see how many of the girls listed in Neesday were from TLI. OMG! They must know something over there.

they know something or...Someone (i think a parent has the Newsday guys ears-both of them)


Maybe the girls are worthy of the recognition.
What do you y think sparky? Your DD not part of the list?


and maybe there are some girls on that list that are not worthy. If you know the players on the island then you know there are girls on that list that definitely do not belong.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/26/16 05:20 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: BigHitterDad
Did anyone see how many of the girls listed in Neesday were from TLI. OMG! They must know something over there.

they know something or...Someone (i think a parent has the Newsday guys ears-both of them)


Maybe the girls are worthy of the recognition.
What do you y think sparky? Your DD not part of the list?


and maybe there are some girls on that list that are not worthy. If you know the players on the island then you know there are girls on that list that definitely do not belong.


Still won't get your DD on the list.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/26/16 06:38 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: BigHitterDad
Did anyone see how many of the girls listed in Neesday were from TLI. OMG! They must know something over there.

they know something or...Someone (i think a parent has the Newsday guys ears-both of them)


Maybe the girls are worthy of the recognition.
What do you y think sparky? Your DD not part of the list?


and maybe there are some girls on that list that are not worthy. If you know the players on the island then you know there are girls on that list that definitely do not belong.


What do you care? Be happy for the girls who did get their name in the paper and tell the girls who didn't but should of to just show who is best on the field. I would love to see the stats at the end of the season of who was mentioned in that article to who was mentioned as producing in the recaps of each game. Maybe newsday should produce that list at the end of the season. That would be your true top 100!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/26/16 12:35 PM

You do realize it's children you are talking about? Who cares whether or not you think they belong on the list? They are on it and Congratulations to those who made it.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/26/16 04:27 PM

Somebody's ego is bruised
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/29/16 11:40 AM

TLI dominates Long Island with the best talent. Their teams may not always be the best at winning but talent is second to none Angel is just a master at getting the girls to college with scholarships. A lot of teams are trying to duplicate what angel does but college coaches are just looking for Angels girls since they are so advanced and don't need to be retaught when they get them to college.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/29/16 01:49 PM

Hi, I wanted to know which organization people felt was better in terms of coaching, training, player improvement, and most importantly, college placement: Pride or LI Express?

Please nobody with an axe to grind against either of these should reply. And please no TLI. I am aware that their reputation puts them in a different category, but not all of us have the means or the desire to live the lifestyle that comes with playing there.

So any feedback on the Pride vs. LI Express decision would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/30/16 03:03 PM

One of these days all of you parents will understand that
high school softball will never get your kid to play on a college team.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/30/16 03:36 PM

Sounds like you may have been on the bandits and are bitter. Maybe your kid isn't any good but you blame the organization or the coach, because isn't it everyone else's fault when your kid isn't good enough to play. How about you spend some time working with your kid or getting her lessons.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/30/16 11:01 PM

I bet TLI does not want you either!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/30/16 11:02 PM

Depends on what team your DD plays!!!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/30/16 11:03 PM

ouch!!!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/31/16 03:54 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
One of these days all of you parents will understand that
high school softball will never get your kid to play on a college team.


That is probably more true in the public school, in the Catholic league I know you get better players and teams, just look at the top 100.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 03/31/16 10:29 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Hi, I wanted to know which organization people felt was better in terms of coaching, training, player improvement, and most importantly, college placement: Pride or LI Express?

Please nobody with an axe to grind against either of these should reply. And please no TLI. I am aware that their reputation puts them in a different category, but not all of us have the means or the desire to live the lifestyle that comes with playing there.

So any feedback on the Pride vs. LI Express decision would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks


Just check their websites and see how many girls have verbal commitments and to what type of schools. Not every one is cut out for TLI. But if your kid has the talent and the drive to play in a higher level when she gets to college then maybe the 2 teams you mentioned are not the way to go. I am not sure how much TLI charges but as compared to other teams, i bet they are all not far from each other in terms of cost.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/01/16 06:58 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
One of these days all of you parents will understand that
high school softball will never get your kid to play on a college team.


That is probably more true in the public school, in the Catholic league I know you get better players and teams, just look at the top 100.


The Catholic Schools are no better than public schools when it comes to softball, don't go by newsday top 100.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/01/16 08:01 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Hi, I wanted to know which organization people felt was better in terms of coaching, training, player improvement, and most importantly, college placement: Pride or LI Express?

Please nobody with an axe to grind against either of these should reply. And please no TLI. I am aware that their reputation puts them in a different category, but not all of us have the means or the desire to live the lifestyle that comes with playing there.

So any feedback on the Pride vs. LI Express decision would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

I like both of these organizations and I think you could be happy at either. Pride is a little stronger overall but good coaches at Express including the head coach from St. Peter's College. Tryout at both and figure out which team has more playing time at your daughters position.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/01/16 02:11 PM

I totally agree the best organizations that have no drama and get girls into colleges that fit who they are and has their majors is very simple. TLI, chargers, Sudden Impact,& long island express. They all have a proven track record and always get on main fields and have a lot of connections but remember it is not just the organization it is also up to the player to put in the time on and off the field. Grades,training,and researching colloges that have what they want
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/02/16 05:09 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
One of these days all of you parents will understand that
high school softball will never get your kid to play on a college team.


That is probably more true in the public school, in the Catholic league I know you get better players and teams, just look at the top 100.


The Catholic Schools are no better than public schools when it comes to softball, don't go by newsday top 100.


Have to agree with the quote that gives the edge to the Catholic schools. They are better, they do have advantages that kids can pick to go to a school want to go to for their softball program, but there aren't 4 public teams in LI that can beat a say Kellenberg, year in and year out.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/03/16 06:51 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
One of these days all of you parents will understand that
high school softball will never get your kid to play on a college team.


That is probably more true in the public school, in the Catholic league I know you get better players and teams, just look at the top 100.


The Catholic Schools are no better than public schools when it comes to softball, don't go by newsday top 100.


If you play in the top division or 2 in softball then you will play the same level of competition as the catholic schools, the other divisions in public school have so many bad teams.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/03/16 08:33 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
One of these days all of you parents will understand that
high school softball will never get your kid to play on a college team.


That is probably more true in the public school, in the Catholic league I know you get better players and teams, just look at the top 100.


The Catholic Schools are no better than public schools when it comes to softball, don't go by newsday top 100.


Have to agree with the quote that gives the edge to the Catholic schools. They are better, they do have advantages that kids can pick to go to a school want to go to for their softball program, but there aren't 4 public teams in LI that can beat a say Kellenberg, year in and year out.


Really? I am sure there are plenty of public schools that can compete, some of you Catholic School guys think way too much about "paid" high schools. I think it's more of an ego thing for you guys.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/04/16 09:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I totally agree the best organizations that have no drama and get girls into colleges that fit who they are and has their majors is very simple. TLI, chargers, Sudden Impact,& long island express. They all have a proven track record and always get on main fields and have a lot of connections but remember it is not just the organization it is also up to the player to put in the time on and off the field. Grades,training,and researching colloges that have what they want


the team doesnt matter if the player isn't good enough to play at the schools she wants to go to.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/05/16 07:48 AM

So when a kid says they verballed or is commited to a school, does that mean they automatically get money? Hofstra and Post are expensive schools around 40-50 thousand as 2 examples, D1 and D2 schools. Do any softball kids get full rides? Parents who have gone through maybe can shed some light, what is the average amount a kid might get ? I know each kid and school is diiferent but it would be great to hear some discussion on the money part. The reason is sooooo many people are worried and talk about this kid signed here and there, but who really cares since most parents care about one thing, getting their kid money to help pay for college. So is it really worth all the lessons, travel and expense if your kid gets minimal money to go play softball. Or is it the ego of saying my kid signed or verballed to some school. I know on this site its tough to get a logical discussion, but for once maybe it can happen.
Posted by: Bring the Heat

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/05/16 02:28 PM

Its called equivalency, and unless its football or men's and women's basketball, athletic money is not "full" in the majority of cases.

Teams will get a set amount of scholarships, typically between 7 and 11.7, depending on the division and the school. They will then share these scholarships among the 25-30 players. Typical is 25 percent, but sometimes it can be much higher. The athletic money is never guaranteed. Its renewed yearly by the coach.

Academic money is usually guaranteed as long as the grades are kept up.

What works best sometimes is academic money.

What typically happens is a kid is offered at a school. The offer will typically be 25 percent. Depending on the cost of the school, this can make an impact, or still put the school out of reach. 25 percent of 60k is 15k. The family will still have to fork over 45k...but the kid has a scholarship.

25 percent of a D1 state school at 20k per year is only 5k, but the family cost will drop down to 15k.

50 percent or more academic money is sometimes better.

The coach has a player in mind when filling out the lineup card. They will not fill it out, in most cases, based upon where the money comes from.

Find a school for the child, and find a fit for the child and family.





Originally Posted By: Anonymous
So when a kid says they verballed or is commited to a school, does that mean they automatically get money? Hofstra and Post are expensive schools around 40-50 thousand as 2 examples, D1 and D2 schools. Do any softball kids get full rides? Parents who have gone through maybe can shed some light, what is the average amount a kid might get ? I know each kid and school is diiferent but it would be great to hear some discussion on the money part. The reason is sooooo many people are worried and talk about this kid signed here and there, but who really cares since most parents care about one thing, getting their kid money to help pay for college. So is it really worth all the lessons, travel and expense if your kid gets minimal money to go play softball. Or is it the ego of saying my kid signed or verballed to some school. I know on this site its tough to get a logical discussion, but for once maybe it can happen.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/06/16 08:58 PM

When a kid has verballed they have typically been offered something. Sometimes it is minimal. Sometimes it is a lot. It varies. Signing an NLI means they are getting something. The NLI has a dollar amount and is an agreement that they will play for that school for a specific amount of money as stated in the NLI.

I would say if the only reason they are playing softball and taking lessons and traveling everywhere is for the hopes of a scholarship that money is not well spent. Just save the money for college. Except for a handful of kids. Less than 3-4% of HS athletes play in college. Much less get athletic money. Saving the money will likely be more than whatever it is they get athletically. If it's to support your DD in a sport she loves and some scholarship might be a by product of that effort then that is different.

I would like to think it isn't about parents egos. The truth is there really aren't that many kids in our area going to big name softball programs... so I'm not sure who you are really talking about. I would think most parents are just proud of their kids and the ones who think they did it for their egos are really just jealous.

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
So when a kid says they verballed or is commited to a school, does that mean they automatically get money? Hofstra and Post are expensive schools around 40-50 thousand as 2 examples, D1 and D2 schools. Do any softball kids get full rides? Parents who have gone through maybe can shed some light, what is the average amount a kid might get ? I know each kid and school is diiferent but it would be great to hear some discussion on the money part. The reason is sooooo many people are worried and talk about this kid signed here and there, but who really cares since most parents care about one thing, getting their kid money to help pay for college. So is it really worth all the lessons, travel and expense if your kid gets minimal money to go play softball. Or is it the ego of saying my kid signed or verballed to some school. I know on this site its tough to get a logical discussion, but for once maybe it can happen.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/11/16 10:53 AM

great email- one day parents will learn that there is 10x more $$ out there for academics vs athletics. Of course its great for kids to play sports- but if you're spending all your cash chasing a scholarship you're doing it for the wrong reason. Money is better off spent on tutors and SAT courses. Schools throw unsolicited cash out to good students. Comes with acceptance letters. And its good for all 4 years. Johnny bats 150 and he's out.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/11/16 10:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I totally agree the best organizations that have no drama and get girls into colleges that fit who they are and has their majors is very simple. TLI, chargers, Sudden Impact,& long island express. They all have a proven track record and always get on main fields and have a lot of connections but remember it is not just the organization it is also up to the player to put in the time on and off the field. Grades,training,and researching colloges that have what they want

Those are the better choices if you want help getting the best fit overall for your daughter. Top 4 are listed above (TLI Chargers Sudden Impact and LI Express) The majority of $$ is of course academic and is better for your child...it is usually guaranteed for 4 years as long as they keep good grades. Athletic $$ is annual and coach renews each year. Many girls who have verballed have gotten a combo of $$ some for a full ride. Not many were given full ride plus expenses like Pitcher from Rocky Point a few years back. She got the real deal from University of Maine(D I). I believe pitcher from Islip that same year did the same at Dowling (D II). But there have been several girls get good scholarship for having athletic skills PLUS good grades. Congrats to all past present and future.

the team doesnt matter if the player isn't good enough to play at the schools she wants to go to.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/13/16 08:15 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
great email- one day parents will learn that there is 10x more $$ out there for academics vs athletics. Of course its great for kids to play sports- but if you're spending all your cash chasing a scholarship you're doing it for the wrong reason. Money is better off spent on tutors and SAT courses. Schools throw unsolicited cash out to good students. Comes with acceptance letters. And its good for all 4 years. Johnny bats 150 and he's out.


also a good post, the parental ego that loves to talk about "committing" "offers" are funny. so true about where and how to spend your money to advance your DD. esspically from dads that claim family poverty and have 3 daughters chasing their fathers dream, so sad, to see them buying batting nets for their back yard and drive around in a 20 year old car. what are you teaching them???
Posted by: BigHitterDad

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/14/16 05:51 AM

Your now criticizing Dads who sacrifice there own quality of life for the happiness of there daughters. You must be one of those dads who drop there daughter off and come back when practice is over. Some lesson your teaching.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/14/16 12:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
great email- one day parents will learn that there is 10x more $$ out there for academics vs athletics. Of course its great for kids to play sports- but if you're spending all your cash chasing a scholarship you're doing it for the wrong reason. Money is better off spent on tutors and SAT courses. Schools throw unsolicited cash out to good students. Comes with acceptance letters. And its good for all 4 years. Johnny bats 150 and he's out.


also a good post, the parental ego that loves to talk about "committing" "offers" are funny. so true about where and how to spend your money to advance your DD. esspically from dads that claim family poverty and have 3 daughters chasing their fathers dream, so sad, to see them buying batting nets for their back yard and drive around in a 20 year old car. what are you teaching them???


My DD can ride the bench till she graduates high school as long as I get a new car every 3 years.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/14/16 12:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
great email- one day parents will learn that there is 10x more $$ out there for academics vs athletics. Of course its great for kids to play sports- but if you're spending all your cash chasing a scholarship you're doing it for the wrong reason. Money is better off spent on tutors and SAT courses. Schools throw unsolicited cash out to good students. Comes with acceptance letters. And its good for all 4 years. Johnny bats 150 and he's out.


also a good post, the parental ego that loves to talk about "committing" "offers" are funny. so true about where and how to spend your money to advance your DD. esspically from dads that claim family poverty and have 3 daughters chasing their fathers dream, so sad, to see them buying batting nets for their back yard and drive around in a 20 year old car. what are you teaching them???


My DD can suck at softball as long as I get that 2017 ford mustang.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/14/16 08:52 PM

I see a girl from Levittown went Pro (drafted by the Bandits)! Played for North Carolina - Kristen Brown. Anybody know her story?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/15/16 05:38 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
great email- one day parents will learn that there is 10x more $$ out there for academics vs athletics. Of course its great for kids to play sports- but if you're spending all your cash chasing a scholarship you're doing it for the wrong reason. Money is better off spent on tutors and SAT courses. Schools throw unsolicited cash out to good students. Comes with acceptance letters. And its good for all 4 years. Johnny bats 150 and he's out.


also a good post, the parental ego that loves to talk about "committing" "offers" are funny. so true about where and how to spend your money to advance your DD. esspically from dads that claim family poverty and have 3 daughters chasing their fathers dream, so sad, to see them buying batting nets for their back yard and drive around in a 20 year old car. what are you teaching them???



Little Susie's dream is just that, a dream. Secondary or even tertiary to the materialistic things that Dad and Mom needs.

Your sh_t out of luck Susie, that new Range Rover has Daddy's name on it. Just ask your teammates to teach you how to hit. They take lessons so they can teach you. Its all the same.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/15/16 10:43 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
great email- one day parents will learn that there is 10x more $$ out there for academics vs athletics. Of course its great for kids to play sports- but if you're spending all your cash chasing a scholarship you're doing it for the wrong reason. Money is better off spent on tutors and SAT courses. Schools throw unsolicited cash out to good students. Comes with acceptance letters. And its good for all 4 years. Johnny bats 150 and he's out.



Johnny dressing up as a girl and playing softball? You got bigger problems than his batting average.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/17/16 05:42 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I see a girl from Levittown went Pro (drafted by the Bandits)! Played for North Carolina - Kristen Brown. Anybody know her story?


Her parents drove her around in a 20 yr to games in a 20 yr old car. And look where it got her.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/18/16 10:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I see a girl from Levittown went Pro (drafted by the Bandits)! Played for North Carolina - Kristen Brown. Anybody know her story?


Her parents drove her around in a 20 yr to games in a 20 yr old car. And look where it got her.


Nothing wrong with driving an old car. Parents put their kids needs first, look where the kid is heading to!
Posted by: Fastpitch Junkie

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/19/16 07:58 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I see a girl from Levittown went Pro (drafted by the Bandits)! Played for North Carolina - Kristen Brown. Anybody know her story?

Probably the best player to come off LI, played for LI Gold in the early days of the org. She is in her Senior Year at NC, was a pre-season All American and having another phenomenal year. Her Senior year in HS had something like 17 HR's, hit one of the further HR I even seen in the LI Champ game at Mitchell Field. That's when they had no fence and she crossed home plate around the same time the OF got to the ball.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/21/16 05:23 AM

Originally Posted By: Fastpitch Junkie
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I see a girl from Levittown went Pro (drafted by the Bandits)! Played for North Carolina - Kristen Brown. Anybody know her story?

Probably the best player to come off LI, played for LI Gold in the early days of the org. She is in her Senior Year at NC, was a pre-season All American and having another phenomenal year. Her Senior year in HS had something like 17 HR's, hit one of the further HR I even seen in the LI Champ game at Mitchell Field. That's when they had no fence and she crossed home plate around the same time the OF got to the ball.


agree - she was the best position player coming out of LI in a while. real deal.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/21/16 07:01 PM

yes, she's a girl from Levittown went Pro (drafted by the Bandits)! Played for North Carolina - that's her story
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/26/16 10:18 AM

Originally Posted By: Fastpitch Junkie
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I see a girl from Levittown went Pro (drafted by the Bandits)! Played for North Carolina - Kristen Brown. Anybody know her story?

Probably the best player to come off LI, played for LI Gold in the early days of the org. She is in her Senior Year at NC, was a pre-season All American and having another phenomenal year. Her Senior year in HS had something like 17 HR's, hit one of the further HR I even seen in the LI Champ game at Mitchell Field. That's when they had no fence and she crossed home plate around the same time the OF got to the ball.


Awesome! Thank you
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 04/28/16 02:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Fastpitch Junkie
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I see a girl from Levittown went Pro (drafted by the Bandits)! Played for North Carolina - Kristen Brown. Anybody know her story?

Probably the best player to come off LI, played for LI Gold in the early days of the org. She is in her Senior Year at NC, was a pre-season All American and having another phenomenal year. Her Senior year in HS had something like 17 HR's, hit one of the further HR I even seen in the LI Champ game at Mitchell Field. That's when they had no fence and she crossed home plate around the same time the OF got to the ball.


Awesome! Thank you

Christine Knauer also played on Long Island at Huntington and played travel for the Chargers and went to UNC and got drafted by Bandits in her time playing ball. These girls are the real deal and were natives to Long Island! There is also Danielle Henderson who played here on Long Island and played travel for the Chargers as well and played on 2 Olympic Gold Teams - that's right she is a Long Island Native and one a few that earned 2 Olympic Gold medals in softball. Its nice to hear there are a few of these very special players from our beautiful LI.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 05/02/16 06:38 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Fastpitch Junkie
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I see a girl from Levittown went Pro (drafted by the Bandits)! Played for North Carolina - Kristen Brown. Anybody know her story?

Probably the best player to come off LI, played for LI Gold in the early days of the org. She is in her Senior Year at NC, was a pre-season All American and having another phenomenal year. Her Senior year in HS had something like 17 HR's, hit one of the further HR I even seen in the LI Champ game at Mitchell Field. That's when they had no fence and she crossed home plate around the same time the OF got to the ball.


Awesome! Thank you

Christine Knauer also played on Long Island at Huntington and played travel for the Chargers and went to UNC and got drafted by Bandits in her time playing ball. These girls are the real deal and were natives to Long Island! There is also Danielle Henderson who played here on Long Island and played travel for the Chargers as well and played on 2 Olympic Gold Teams - that's right she is a Long Island Native and one a few that earned 2 Olympic Gold medals in softball. Its nice to hear there are a few of these very special players from our beautiful LI.


Very cool !
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/22/16 07:23 AM

TC Tremors is breaking up after the season? Is that true?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/22/16 11:27 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
TC Tremors is breaking up after the season? Is that true?


What a surprise !!!

The surprise though is that they lasted this long.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/22/16 02:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
TC Tremors is breaking up after the season? Is that true?


heard the same he. duped players/parents that he was keeping it going/then got married and isn't going to do anything after the summer. all hear say on my part, but from some reliable.

on the other side how long do you think these things go for? there going to be seniors for crying out loud.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/24/16 10:48 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
TC Tremors is breaking up after the season? Is that true?


The whole organization or TC Tremors LI?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/24/16 02:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
TC Tremors is breaking up after the season? Is that true?


Bob? You back?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/24/16 11:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
TC Tremors is breaking up after the season? Is that true?


I heard head coach is leaving A few players leaving because of it. Dads taking over. Needs pretty much a full infield if anyone is looking for a switch
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/25/16 02:38 PM

very true..welcome back to LI folks..
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/25/16 07:04 PM

Great job TLI , couldn't do it at TCS/USA but enjoyed beating the crap out of 13yo at pony. #trophychasers
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/29/16 07:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Great job TLI , couldn't do it at TCS/USA but enjoyed beating the crap out of 13yo at pony. #trophychasers



#yawn
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/29/16 07:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Great job TLI , couldn't do it at TCS/USA but enjoyed beating the crap out of 13yo at pony. #trophychasers


They placed 3rd in the tcs/usa nationals. How did your team do?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/29/16 09:49 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
TC Tremors is breaking up after the season? Is that true?


I heard head coach is leaving A few players leaving because of it. Dads taking over. Needs pretty much a full infield if anyone is looking for a switch


There are so many Daddy ball teams masquerading as organizations. Then you add this to the mix. Oy vey.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/30/16 12:05 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
TC Tremors is breaking up after the season? Is that true?


The whole organization or TC Tremors LI?
[quote=Anonymous

Just Long Island. Heard AC (aka dad) is trying to save it. Not sure if it's going to work. Expect to see the girls who weren't already scooped up at tryouts the next few weeks
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/30/16 04:49 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Great job TLI , couldn't do it at TCS/USA but enjoyed beating the crap out of 13yo at pony. #trophychasers


While everyone is playing on one of the biggest showcase in the North East, what tournament are you playing in? Some back a$$ county rec ball games?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/30/16 05:22 AM

Daddy ball daddy ball how many verbals do you have? Crush got 2 how many do you have?

Just win baby
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/30/16 05:50 AM

Hello Cranston!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/30/16 05:52 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Great job TLI , couldn't do it at TCS/USA but enjoyed beating the crap out of 13yo at pony. #trophychasers



3rd overall is a LOT better than what your team did.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 07/31/16 07:34 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
TC Tremors is breaking up after the season? Is that true?


Frozen ropes might take them back.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/02/16 11:26 AM

Frozen ropes? i think they are defunct. I wonder how the turnouts will be for tryouts this year?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/02/16 11:02 PM

Why would Frozen Ropes take them back. They caused all the problems. And a few players left TC after causing all the problems at Frozen Ropes. Everyone got what they wanted.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/03/16 04:15 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Frozen ropes? i think they are defunct. I wonder how the turnouts will be for tryouts this year?


I believe the other poster was being sarcastic. It's crazy that they left Frozen Ropes because the coach took them away and now the coach is abandoning the final group of seniors he has. That's wrong
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/03/16 08:50 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Frozen ropes? i think they are defunct. I wonder how the turnouts will be for tryouts this year?


I believe the other poster was being sarcastic. It's crazy that they left Frozen Ropes because the coach took them away and now the coach is abandoning the final group of seniors he has. That's wrong


Abandoning? From what I read he got married....was he supposed to not get married till the girls graduated? The season is over the girls are talented - if they haven't already found a new team they will.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/03/16 09:36 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Why would Frozen Ropes take them back. They caused all the problems. And a few players left TC after causing all the problems at Frozen Ropes. Everyone got what they wanted.


One more uniform before they graduate hs.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/03/16 09:40 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
TC Tremors is breaking up after the season? Is that true?


heard the same he. duped players/parents that he was keeping it going/then got married and isn't going to do anything after the summer. all hear say on my part, but from some reliable.

on the other side how long do you think these things go for? there going to be seniors for crying out loud.


What a stand up guy that coach is! Then again they all deserve each other. The coach and the always complaining parents.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/03/16 01:47 PM

Don't worry about the girls. They were all picked up the moment word got out of their breakup.
At least now they will likely have a committed coach, not one that checked out a long time ago, and have an opportunity to get committed (if they choose to).
Whoever ends up with these kids is very lucky to get such hardworking and talented girls (well most of them at least).
For some it will just be another jersey in their closet.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/03/16 10:06 PM

did you guys here about bluefire2000 and 2001

Dear Rus, Dan, Paul and Ed:

It has come to my attention that you have decided to merge teams without contacting the organization, your parents, players, or me, for that matter. Your decision has come at a most unfortunate time as tryouts are upon the girls and parents are scrambling for vacations and solidifying a place for their daughter to play softball. The manner in which you all engaged in this conduct is both despicable and underhanded, at best. What troubles me the most is the manner in which you engaged in this conspiracy and the athletes who were hurt by your actions. Your behavior was guided by self-promotion and not in the best interest of the organization or the players.

Over the last week, I have fielded many phone calls, texts and emails about your conduct. (Paul – I only include you with the other 3 as they have represented to me on many occasions you are fully involved in all of their decisions and are a coach of the BlueFire team). Despite the parent’s calls and each of you knowing what turmoil has been caused, none of you had the common courtesy of contacting me or responding to my calls or texts.

Your conduct has caused unnecessary angst, aggravation and heartache to many girls in the organization as well as their parents. I am unsure of the goal, but suffice to say, there can be no benefit derived to the athlete.

Based upon your conduct, you have left me with no alternative but to protect the organization that has been built for many years on integrity, great coaching, excellent philosophy and impeccable reputation. Your conduct has temporarily tainted that and you should not be rewarded.

As a result, please be advised that DAN BENDIG, RUS POLIRER, ED AGNOLI AND PAUL DEFINA are immediately removed from the BlueFire organization in all capacities, including as coaches.

You are directed to immediately cease and desist with the use of BlueFire in any way.
Remove your team from USSSA and other affiliated organizations.
I will make sure to advise all involved in the event you do not.

You are not permitted to represent BlueFire in any way. Please discontinue use of Bluefire emails as well.

As I own the BlueFire name and all intellectual property rights associated therewith, please be advised that you are not permitted to use the name, likeness, image or anything related thereto in any way, including in connection with college recruiting. As of today, you no longer have any affiliation with BlueFire as a coach.

I did not come to this decision lightly. I have attempted to contact each of you, except for Paul, and have reached out to discuss this. You have not responded and ignored my efforts. I waited until after you returned from Nationals. I even waited several days thereafter. I gave you every opportunity to contact me and explain your reasoning. Nothing!!

Indeed, the players are welcome to stay in the organization and none of them will be penalized as I am sure they had no clue four grown men would engage in such conduct.

This organization was built with a vision in mind to stress academics and deliver mature respectful athletes ready to embrace the challenges of college and beyond. None of you have that philosophy in mind and it is clear that you do not share the BlueFire principles or philosophy.

Thank you


_______________________________
Joseph S. Maniscalco, President
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/04/16 06:19 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Don't worry about the girls. They were all picked up the moment word got out of their breakup.
At least now they will likely have a committed coach, not one that checked out a long time ago, and have an opportunity to get committed (if they choose to).
Whoever ends up with these kids is very lucky to get such hardworking and talented girls (well most of them at least).
For some it will just be another jersey in their closet.


Wishful thinking.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/04/16 08:24 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
did you guys here about bluefire2000 and 2001

Dear Rus, Dan, Paul and Ed:

It has come to my attention that you have decided to merge teams without contacting the organization, your parents, players, or me, for that matter. Your decision has come at a most unfortunate time as tryouts are upon the girls and parents are scrambling for vacations and solidifying a place for their daughter to play softball. The manner in which you all engaged in this conduct is both despicable and underhanded, at best. What troubles me the most is the manner in which you engaged in this conspiracy and the athletes who were hurt by your actions. Your behavior was guided by self-promotion and not in the best interest of the organization or the players.

Over the last week, I have fielded many phone calls, texts and emails about your conduct. (Paul – I only include you with the other 3 as they have represented to me on many occasions you are fully involved in all of their decisions and are a coach of the BlueFire team). Despite the parent’s calls and each of you knowing what turmoil has been caused, none of you had the common courtesy of contacting me or responding to my calls or texts.

Your conduct has caused unnecessary angst, aggravation and heartache to many girls in the organization as well as their parents. I am unsure of the goal, but suffice to say, there can be no benefit derived to the athlete.

Based upon your conduct, you have left me with no alternative but to protect the organization that has been built for many years on integrity, great coaching, excellent philosophy and impeccable reputation. Your conduct has temporarily tainted that and you should not be rewarded.

As a result, please be advised that DAN BENDIG, RUS POLIRER, ED AGNOLI AND PAUL DEFINA are immediately removed from the BlueFire organization in all capacities, including as coaches.

You are directed to immediately cease and desist with the use of BlueFire in any way.
Remove your team from USSSA and other affiliated organizations.
I will make sure to advise all involved in the event you do not.

You are not permitted to represent BlueFire in any way. Please discontinue use of Bluefire emails as well.

As I own the BlueFire name and all intellectual property rights associated therewith, please be advised that you are not permitted to use the name, likeness, image or anything related thereto in any way, including in connection with college recruiting. As of today, you no longer have any affiliation with BlueFire as a coach.

I did not come to this decision lightly. I have attempted to contact each of you, except for Paul, and have reached out to discuss this. You have not responded and ignored my efforts. I waited until after you returned from Nationals. I even waited several days thereafter. I gave you every opportunity to contact me and explain your reasoning. Nothing!!

Indeed, the players are welcome to stay in the organization and none of them will be penalized as I am sure they had no clue four grown men would engage in such conduct.

This organization was built with a vision in mind to stress academics and deliver mature respectful athletes ready to embrace the challenges of college and beyond. None of you have that philosophy in mind and it is clear that you do not share the BlueFire principles or philosophy.

Thank you


_______________________________
Joseph S. Maniscalco, President




The Bellmore Daddy Ball association has come to light again
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/04/16 10:39 AM

wow good for bluefire that is messed up
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/04/16 10:55 AM

Not to worry Dan & Russ the Crush will be waiting for you guys with open arms, the Crush org is a perfect fit for you guys, Classless!! Don't forget the checkbook!!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/04/16 03:22 PM

That's good for Joe now maybe some of those real softball players will join HIS 18 team and they can be sort of competitive.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/04/16 03:28 PM

Didn't they loose a 12 u team a couple of years ago as well? Maybe Joe should take a step back and rethink his organization. I believe with the removable of that 2000 team and the dismantling of the 12u team that is going to take place in fall Bluefire organization is an afterthought now. It all catches up in the end......
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/04/16 03:30 PM

Doesn't surprise me Joe has been a douche for years. The 2000 team was the best team in organization and he was jealous.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/04/16 10:45 PM

Russ, Ed, Dan and Paul, they could have done this the right way, they chose to screw over a bunch of 15 year old girls, grown [***censored***] men messing with 15 year old girls lives, you tell me who is the classless pieces of garbage here? they lied for months to people who were loyal to them, they deserve everything they get. there isn't an organization on long island that should or will touch these idiots. say whatever you want about bluefire, you're missing the point, the fact of the matter is they could care less about anyone but themselves. This team will not survive, half the team is already looking to leave already.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/05/16 08:43 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
did you guys here about bluefire2000 and 2001

Dear Rus, Dan, Paul and Ed:

It has come to my attention that you have decided to merge teams without contacting the organization, your parents, players, or me, for that matter. Your decision has come at a most unfortunate time as tryouts are upon the girls and parents are scrambling for vacations and solidifying a place for their daughter to play softball. The manner in which you all engaged in this conduct is both despicable and underhanded, at best. What troubles me the most is the manner in which you engaged in this conspiracy and the athletes who were hurt by your actions. Your behavior was guided by self-promotion and not in the best interest of the organization or the players.

Over the last week, I have fielded many phone calls, texts and emails about your conduct. (Paul – I only include you with the other 3 as they have represented to me on many occasions you are fully involved in all of their decisions and are a coach of the BlueFire team). Despite the parent’s calls and each of you knowing what turmoil has been caused, none of you had the common courtesy of contacting me or responding to my calls or texts.

Your conduct has caused unnecessary angst, aggravation and heartache to many girls in the organization as well as their parents. I am unsure of the goal, but suffice to say, there can be no benefit derived to the athlete.

Based upon your conduct, you have left me with no alternative but to protect the organization that has been built for many years on integrity, great coaching, excellent philosophy and impeccable reputation. Your conduct has temporarily tainted that and you should not be rewarded.

As a result, please be advised that DAN BENDIG, RUS POLIRER, ED AGNOLI AND PAUL DEFINA are immediately removed from the BlueFire organization in all capacities, including as coaches.

You are directed to immediately cease and desist with the use of BlueFire in any way.
Remove your team from USSSA and other affiliated organizations.
I will make sure to advise all involved in the event you do not.

You are not permitted to represent BlueFire in any way. Please discontinue use of Bluefire emails as well.

As I own the BlueFire name and all intellectual property rights associated therewith, please be advised that you are not permitted to use the name, likeness, image or anything related thereto in any way, including in connection with college recruiting. As of today, you no longer have any affiliation with BlueFire as a coach.

I did not come to this decision lightly. I have attempted to contact each of you, except for Paul, and have reached out to discuss this. You have not responded and ignored my efforts. I waited until after you returned from Nationals. I even waited several days thereafter. I gave you every opportunity to contact me and explain your reasoning. Nothing!!

Indeed, the players are welcome to stay in the organization and none of them will be penalized as I am sure they had no clue four grown men would engage in such conduct.

This organization was built with a vision in mind to stress academics and deliver mature respectful athletes ready to embrace the challenges of college and beyond. None of you have that philosophy in mind and it is clear that you do not share the BlueFire principles or philosophy.

Thank you


_______________________________
Joseph S. Maniscalco, President


Good for Joe. Don't know the other guys but you deserve credit for owning the organization and not placating to those that might gone rouge
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/05/16 08:52 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
did you guys here about bluefire2000 and 2001

Dear Rus, Dan, Paul and Ed:

It has come to my attention that you have decided to merge teams without contacting the organization, your parents, players, or me, for that matter. Your decision has come at a most unfortunate time as tryouts are upon the girls and parents are scrambling for vacations and solidifying a place for their daughter to play softball. The manner in which you all engaged in this conduct is both despicable and underhanded, at best. What troubles me the most is the manner in which you engaged in this conspiracy and the athletes who were hurt by your actions. Your behavior was guided by self-promotion and not in the best interest of the organization or the players.

Over the last week, I have fielded many phone calls, texts and emails about your conduct. (Paul – I only include you with the other 3 as they have represented to me on many occasions you are fully involved in all of their decisions and are a coach of the BlueFire team). Despite the parent’s calls and each of you knowing what turmoil has been caused, none of you had the common courtesy of contacting me or responding to my calls or texts.

Your conduct has caused unnecessary angst, aggravation and heartache to many girls in the organization as well as their parents. I am unsure of the goal, but suffice to say, there can be no benefit derived to the athlete.

Based upon your conduct, you have left me with no alternative but to protect the organization that has been built for many years on integrity, great coaching, excellent philosophy and impeccable reputation. Your conduct has temporarily tainted that and you should not be rewarded.

As a result, please be advised that DAN BENDIG, RUS POLIRER, ED AGNOLI AND PAUL DEFINA are immediately removed from the BlueFire organization in all capacities, including as coaches.

You are directed to immediately cease and desist with the use of BlueFire in any way.
Remove your team from USSSA and other affiliated organizations.
I will make sure to advise all involved in the event you do not.

You are not permitted to represent BlueFire in any way. Please discontinue use of Bluefire emails as well.

As I own the BlueFire name and all intellectual property rights associated therewith, please be advised that you are not permitted to use the name, likeness, image or anything related thereto in any way, including in connection with college recruiting. As of today, you no longer have any affiliation with BlueFire as a coach.

I did not come to this decision lightly. I have attempted to contact each of you, except for Paul, and have reached out to discuss this. You have not responded and ignored my efforts. I waited until after you returned from Nationals. I even waited several days thereafter. I gave you every opportunity to contact me and explain your reasoning. Nothing!!

Indeed, the players are welcome to stay in the organization and none of them will be penalized as I am sure they had no clue four grown men would engage in such conduct.

This organization was built with a vision in mind to stress academics and deliver mature respectful athletes ready to embrace the challenges of college and beyond. None of you have that philosophy in mind and it is clear that you do not share the BlueFire principles or philosophy.

Thank you


_______________________________
Joseph S. Maniscalco, President




The Bellmore Daddy Ball association has come to light again


Bellmore is the hot bed for Daddy ball coaches that ruined players and teams for years, some of the Bluefire current coaches did just that for other teams now they are recline themselves under the Bluefire name. Best of luck with HIM.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/05/16 02:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
That's good for Joe now maybe some of those real softball players will join HIS 18 team and they can be sort of competitive.


And maybe they can really play in college not like those you put on your website as doing so but are not.
False advertising or douchebaggery?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/05/16 09:01 PM

it is about time someone stood up for what is right and did not allow coaches egos to take advantage of players. these coaches that bluefire got rid of was the best decision they ever made. those guys are just not good coaches or people. has anyone seen that guy bendig and the way he coaches and how he dresses on the field. embarassment!!!!!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/06/16 06:41 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Not to worry Dan & Russ the Crush will be waiting for you guys with open arms, the Crush org is a perfect fit for you guys, Classless!! Don't forget the checkbook!!


Daddy ball at its finest.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/06/16 04:30 PM

How did 16u Bluefire tryouts go? Oh sorry is that to soon?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/07/16 07:34 AM

What does the dismantling of the 12U team that will take place in the fall mean? I have seen their '03 play in a few tournaments and they are pretty good. I believe they won a bunch of tournaments. They have a bunch of solid pitchers and hitters. Any insight would be helpful, always looking for pitchers.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/07/16 12:53 PM

They did not lose any other 12u team. Anyone who does not agree with what he did here is the problem with softball. These guys were bad coaches underhanded and hurt girls. I heard joe had to deal with crying teenagers and girls who want to quit because they said they were just thrown aside. Dan and rus cut the girls in a text. Had no balls to face the girls or the parents. And that guy Ed is as sleezy as they come. He did same thing at lac and joe should have realized it was going to happen.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/07/16 12:55 PM

And last year dan and rus played Joes team and got slaughtered. It was so bad I saw joe do the right thing again and back his team off when they were hitting bombs off rus daughter. And the big slapper did nothing. Grounded out to second base three times. That the difference with better coaching. But joe held back because people said he never should have played them and embarrassed them in the first place
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/07/16 05:24 PM

unreal I love it, when are men going to realize it's not about them it's about the girls. I'm sure the Crush will take them they would fit right in
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/07/16 07:02 PM

Have to fund a new Lobster Shack somehow!!!!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/08/16 09:39 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
unreal I love it, when are men going to realize it's not about them it's about the girls. I'm sure the Crush will take them they would fit right in


Just win baby!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/08/16 09:44 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
They did not lose any other 12u team. Anyone who does not agree with what he did here is the problem with softball. These guys were bad coaches underhanded and hurt girls. I heard joe had to deal with crying teenagers and girls who want to quit because they said they were just thrown aside. Dan and rus cut the girls in a text. Had no balls to face the girls or the parents. And that guy Ed is as sleezy as they come. He did same thing at lac and joe should have realized it was going to happen.


Balless, sleezy, Classless guys? Whats not to like? Who wouldn't want these low lifes to coach young girls? They can build character.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/08/16 09:49 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Not to worry Dan & Russ the Crush will be waiting for you guys with open arms, the Crush org is a perfect fit for you guys, Classless!! Don't forget the checkbook!!

The bandits would be a great fit too.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/08/16 11:21 AM

I've been a Bluefire family member for quite some time now and love it hear. The antics that have been going on is outrageous. I personally know all parties involved. As my daughter entered the softball world I was always warned by friends that the interior of the softball world is cutthroat, all from the adults running these organizations. The girls were always pawns. I couldn't believe, until I actually saw it and heard from friends in other organizations. It's a sad fact of life. Though they all care about the kids they also want to put the best product on the field. The people that are bashing certain individuals are spreading false rumors, and I know that for a fact. There is definitely two sides to this story and no one should be taken sides. We should just move on and seriously think about the girls this time. These young girls act like we do and if we continue to bash each other the girls are learning a serious flaw that our supposed grow ups are teaching us. To all the coaching staff at Bluefire and those dismissed we all need to all move on . Both sides are at fault here so let's learn from this. ITS ABOUT THE GIRLS NOW
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/08/16 06:13 PM

You are wrong. 12u team folded because Joe didn't have the balls to step in and face his coaches. Two or three girls left and team folded. The 2000 team was the only good team Bluefire had. The organization is done. Sure you can send your kid there to play but probably because your a local Bellmorite who needs a place for daughter to play. That's OK. But the days of any competitive softball walked out the door when the 2000 team folded. Just another crabshack!! Way to go Joe...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/08/16 06:26 PM

I thought they were coaches for about 6 years in your organization. If so bad why were they there so long. Ohh I know because there a good team. If so bad why not get rid of them sooner. Ohh I know because the team would have sucked without there daughters. Because your 18u team sucked and wanted to pillage the younger team for players and were told no you felt the need to get rid of the coaches who told you no. Good luck getting my teams and others to support the tournaments you run. Word is out. Stay away.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/09/16 10:19 AM

The timing of the Bluefire incident could not be worse.. It's true. This time of year girls go to tryouts and move around from team to team or stay put. And they and their parents should know what they are really getting into. The decisions to join or stay are often very difficult.

Here's my list of organizations to stay away from. Just an opinion after many years of travel ball - note this does not apply to every age level in the program but often does

1-Bandits
2- Crush
3 - Bluefire
4 - Nitro
5 - Chiefs

Feel free to disagree
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/09/16 07:14 PM

You can not make a blanket statement for an organization. Each team is somewhat ran independent. The BF '03, '04 and '05 are all ran well and are competitive teams.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/09/16 07:57 PM

They list 2 kids going to D1 schools but when you check the 2016 recruits for those schools the bluefire kids are not even mentioned.

Say it aint so joe.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/09/16 08:43 PM

Bluefire is a step up from little league and rec ball. They play cupcake tournaments so they can win and nring home the hardware. There is a reason they dont post their schedule.
Bluefire is a poser.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/09/16 10:25 PM

joe is not to fault here. I'm not a fan of his but in this case he is 100% right. That Bendig guy is the biggest jerk on the field and the guy that ran that 2001 team is a moron. Russ seems like a nice guy, I don't know how he's involved in all this but I heard he quit coaching after all this went down so that speaks volumes right there. what they did was bad and they are paying the price for it.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/09/16 10:34 PM

The 2000 team is not a good team ha ha. They have played down for years, last summer they were still playing 14u out east and winning plastic trophies.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/10/16 07:16 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
it is about time someone stood up for what is right and did not allow coaches egos to take advantage of players. these coaches that bluefire got rid of was the best decision they ever made. those guys are just not good coaches or people. has anyone seen that guy bendig and the way he coaches and how he dresses on the field. embarassment!!!!!


is that the 14u coach? you had to see his get up at tryouts, where do we sign up, NOT!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/10/16 07:32 AM

You people are crazy. I cant believe I just learned of this website this year. I wouldn't believe anything you read on here with parents/kids posting as anonymous. why would strike three even allow this?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/10/16 07:48 AM

Remove your child from that organization. I know it is convenient to play 2 blocks from your home but it is not doing your daughter any good. As far as you as a parent you will make new softball friends its ok to move on. Remember its about the girls.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/10/16 07:50 AM

That list looks about right....
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/10/16 08:02 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
The timing of the Bluefire incident could not be worse.. It's true. This time of year girls go to tryouts and move around from team to team or stay put. And they and their parents should know what they are really getting into. The decisions to join or stay are often very difficult.

Here's my list of organizations to stay away from. Just an opinion after many years of travel ball - note this does not apply to every age level in the program but often does

1-Bandits
2- Crush
3 - Bluefire
4 - Nitro
5 - Chiefs

Feel free to disagree


I will say this.... if you have experience with 5 orgs that you now say to stay away from, how about buying a mirror???? Could it be that YOU are the problem? team jumping at the first sign of discomfort? That's a great lesson to teach your kid ( oh wait, its really about you, right?) And if you don't have personal, up close experience with those orgs why are you bashing them? Here's the deal...the more you put into it, the more you will get out of it, and I am NOT talking about money. Hard work, smarts, lessego, more dedication. C'mon, stop the hate!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/10/16 11:02 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
The timing of the Bluefire incident could not be worse.. It's true. This time of year girls go to tryouts and move around from team to team or stay put. And they and their parents should know what they are really getting into. The decisions to join or stay are often very difficult.

Here's my list of organizations to stay away from. Just an opinion after many years of travel ball - note this does not apply to every age level in the program but often does

1-Bandits
2- Crush
3 - Bluefire
4 - Nitro
5 - Chiefs

Feel free to disagree


Any your reasons are? How could you possibly know about the inner workings of these 5 orgs and all their teams ? You my friend is what's wrong with softball .
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/10/16 09:34 PM

Hey Joe how is it that you loose another 6 girls at 12u level to a brand new team just starting. Oh I know because you are disaster. You are not respected in the softball community and parents are seeing your true colors. I'm with the other person, you did loose a 12 u team a couple years ago because you didn't know how to talk to and handle the parents. You must get a grip on softball reality as your ego is getting in the way. Good luck with whatever is left of Bellmore (NY) Bluefire.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/14/16 05:45 AM

Question if these bluefire coaches were dismissed why are there names still on his site?? Did their 12u 03 team really disband?? Wasn't joe building this brand new state of the art facilities.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/14/16 08:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Hey Joe how is it that you loose another 6 girls at 12u level to a brand new team just starting. Oh I know because you are disaster. You are not respected in the softball community and parents are seeing your true colors. I'm with the other person, you did loose a 12 u team a couple years ago because you didn't know how to talk to and handle the parents. You must get a grip on softball reality as your ego is getting in the way. Good luck with whatever is left of Bellmore (NY) Bluefire.



Exceeding Expectations!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/14/16 08:33 PM

Any movement of any significance in the 14u world. Did any major players move elsewhere? Any teams pick up good ball players? Who is looking strong this fall?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/14/16 09:06 PM

So where did these 6 girls go to? What new team? Crush?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/15/16 06:58 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Hey Joe how is it that you loose another 6 girls at 12u level to a brand new team just starting. Oh I know because you are disaster. You are not respected in the softball community and parents are seeing your true colors. I'm with the other person, you did loose a 12 u team a couple years ago because you didn't know how to talk to and handle the parents. You must get a grip on softball reality as your ego is getting in the way. Good luck with whatever is left of Bellmore (NY) Bluefire.


LOSE LOSE not Loose, loose are the marbles in your brain. He probably lost 6 players because of some unrealistic father who thinks he can do it better but that typically doesn't work out well. Bluefire runs a good organization, what are you doing for the girls?


Exceeding Expectations!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/15/16 10:48 AM

Why doesn't the wimp who talks [***censored***] about joe mention his name. Because he is a coward. He has no clue. He goes on these forums and bashes people. Why don't you take a team or coach or do some training. You say the softball community says Bluefire and joe has a bad rap but I have never heard one bad word about joe and Bluefire except for this person hiding. I actually always hear he is a great guy with passion and love for the game. He always has the girls interest first. So once again why don't you expose yourself and your brilliance. Then only can you really speak your mind.

You just have no clue.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/15/16 10:50 AM

They cannot find a home. I guess joe was right in his decision because no one will touch them. For all those who bashed joe you are all dead wrong because you have no idea. I heard 6 different org turned them down when they heard what the coaches did
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/15/16 12:53 PM

2016 Long Island Bandits 18U Gold

2016 High School Achievements:
- Taryn McGinley- All-County, League 4 Field Player of the Year ,2nd Team All Long Island, 5th team All-State and Suffolk County Umpire Scholarship Recipient
-Nicole Zukowski-All-County,Large School Field Player of the Year and League 1 Field Player of the Year,1st Team All-long Island , 2nd Team All-State
-Alyssa Bluethgen- All-County,League 1 Pitcher of The Year, 1st Team All Long Island,4th Team All-State and All Tournament Team
-Rachel Wandzilak- All-County, League 3 Pitcher Of the Year, 2nd Team All-Long Island,All-Tournament Team, 7th Team all-State
-Jessica Conforti- All-County
-Cassandra Cancemi-All-County
-Nicole Principe-All-County , All-Tournament Team
-Stephanie Neglia-All-County
-Kristen Suran-All-CountyHonable Mention
-Erin Schweers-All-League

Stay away from them? Other than Team LI any organization match this? And 2 of these kids played for Commack the county Champs!! I assume your kid was cut or didn't play much for the Bandits.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/15/16 02:26 PM

Im really tired of people in My TOWN telling me aboud all of TLI's college verbals. And that the Crush have 3. Playing softball isn't about going to college, its about the character of the girls and playing to have fun and having great memories of their time with their friends. It's learning sportsmanship and gaining skills that can translate into the real world.

If you look at the TLI list,I know for fact that the player going to sacred heart and Dominican are not on Angel's 99 team. Has he resorted to making up players names to pad his ego? Truth in advertising!

All of our tournaments have been great. We played well and we won so many games. I wouldn't trade our experience for the pressure that those girls going to their D1 will have.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/15/16 04:07 PM

Oh Joe how sad are you. The denial is off the charts. It comes down to the fact that you wanted the /6u girls for your 18 u team and they said no. The puppeteer was no longer pulling the strings and you got mad like a two year old. The only option was to get rid of them. Those coaches did more for that organization. They were always the ones everyone recognized. There teams were the ones talked about. I even remember the coaches as the ones who organized the fundraisers and charity games. I only remember watching you hike up your socks and trying to play. Let's face it you are only in this for your 18u team if that is what you can call it. You keep running coaches off and hiring "college kids" to coach and we all see what wonders that is doing. Just look at that 14u juggernaut of a team you have assembled. **********
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/15/16 04:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Im really tired of people in My TOWN telling me aboud all of TLI's college verbals. And that the Crush have 3. Playing softball isn't about going to college, its about the character of the girls and playing to have fun and having great memories of their time with their friends. It's learning sportsmanship and gaining skills that can translate into the real world.

If you look at the TLI list,I know for fact that the player going to sacred heart and Dominican are not on Angel's 99 team. Has he resorted to making up players names to pad his ego? Truth in advertising!



All of our tournaments have been great. We played well and we won so many games. I wouldn't trade our experience for the pressure that those girls going to their D1 will have.

Why would you mention crush ? Who cares where your kid plays , if she played and got a verbal to play softball great .

Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/15/16 04:52 PM

Wow becoming a little defensive in Bandit land. Lets just remind everyone that the High school awards are voted on by high school coaches and the last time I checked, the coach of Kings Park High school is also the head coach of the 18U Bandits Gold team who also had a say in voting for her daughter and the players that play for her all year long. So before you come on this web site and try to change what the Bandits are all about. Remembers this, what your eyes see, and what your ears hear, is what your heart believes. It is all smoking mirrors, The board members only care about the money and not in developing players. Plain and simply.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/15/16 06:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Im really tired of people in My TOWN telling me aboud all of TLI's college verbals. And that the Crush have 3. Playing softball isn't about going to college, its about the character of the girls and playing to have fun and having great memories of their time with their friends. It's learning sportsmanship and gaining skills that can translate into the real world.

If you look at the TLI list,I know for fact that the player going to sacred heart and Dominican are not on Angel's 99 team. Has he resorted to making up players names to pad his ego? Truth in advertising!

All of our tournaments have been great. We played well and we won so many games. I wouldn't trade our experience for the pressure that those girls going to their D1 will have.



Why does it bother you if all you are interested is havng a great experience and winning a lot of games? So if your teams goal is not to play in college then whatever tli does shouldn't amount to a hill of beans as far as you are concerned.
And those 2 girls, a little google here and there would lead you to tli Westchester. Oh thats a ways from your town.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/15/16 06:11 PM

To anyone reading this thread. Russ had nothing to do with this. He got caught in the middle of ed and dan. Ed and dan are socially retarded. They don't mean to hurt anyone, they just don't see the problem in deception. To all the players on both teams: stay in bluefire. Get away from dan and ed as fast as possible.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/15/16 06:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Im really tired of people in My TOWN telling me aboud all of TLI's college verbals. And that the Crush have 3. Playing softball isn't about going to college, its about the character of the girls and playing to have fun and having great memories of their time with their friends. It's learning sportsmanship and gaining skills that can translate into the real world.

If you look at the TLI list,I know for fact that the player going to sacred heart and Dominican are not on Angel's 99 team. Has he resorted to making up players names to pad his ego? Truth in advertising!



All of our tournaments have been great. We played well and we won so many games. I wouldn't trade our experience for the pressure that those girls going to their D1 will have.

Why would you mention crush ? Who cares where your kid plays , if she played and got a verbal to play softball great .



Just win baby!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/15/16 06:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Im really tired of people in My TOWN telling me aboud all of TLI's college verbals. And that the Crush have 3. Playing softball isn't about going to college, its about the character of the girls and playing to have fun and having great memories of their time with their friends. It's learning sportsmanship and gaining skills that can translate into the real world.

If you look at the TLI list,I know for fact that the player going to sacred heart and Dominican are not on Angel's 99 team. Has he resorted to making up players names to pad his ego? Truth in advertising!

All of our tournaments have been great. We played well and we won so many games. I wouldn't trade our experience for the pressure that those girls going to their D1 will have.




Oh yeah, the ist verbal on your team was done by the kid herself. And you were of no help. Thanks daddy ball.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/15/16 07:24 PM

Honeychucks out of Lindenhurst possibly.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/15/16 07:31 PM

BELLMORE BLUEFIRE!!!!!!!! Wooohooo
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/15/16 07:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Im really tired of people in My TOWN telling me aboud all of TLI's college verbals. And that the Crush have 3. Playing softball isn't about going to college, its about the character of the girls and playing to have fun and having great memories of their time with their friends. It's learning sportsmanship and gaining skills that can translate into the real world.

If you look at the TLI list,I know for fact that the player going to sacred heart and Dominican are not on Angel's 99 team. Has he resorted to making up players names to pad his ego? Truth in advertising!

All of our tournaments have been great. We played well and we won so many games. I wouldn't trade our experience for the pressure that those girls going to their D1 will have.

TLI is more than just Angel's 99s, it's a whole organization of teams from LI, & elsewhere. He doesn't need to make up names. There's enough talent from his entire organization going on to play in college. You're right, softball isn't only about going to college. But if you love to play & can continue in college, you will learn all of those things you mentioned, just at a higher level. If you can also get a few bucks to cover your education, why not? Many people like to hire college athletes because they know that these kids have a high level of commitment.
Sure there's pressure playing D1, but I'm sure the girls that play D2, & D3 work just as hard to do well on the field as well as in the class.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/15/16 07:34 PM

I was wondering how the Great Mikie D. Of the Crush 02 is doing. I heard they are loading up for the fall.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/15/16 07:41 PM

LI Pride are the organization to play for. They do it right. Honest and talented.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/15/16 09:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Im really tired of people in My TOWN telling me aboud all of TLI's college verbals. And that the Crush have 3. Playing softball isn't about going to college, its about the character of the girls and playing to have fun and having great memories of their time with their friends. It's learning sportsmanship and gaining skills that can translate into the real world.

If you look at the TLI list,I know for fact that the player going to sacred heart and Dominican are not on Angel's 99 team. Has he resorted to making up players names to pad his ego? Truth in advertising!

All of our tournaments have been great. We played well and we won so many games. I wouldn't trade our experience for the pressure that those girls going to their D1 will have.





Go Crush!

Just win baby!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/15/16 10:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Im really tired of people in My TOWN telling me aboud all of TLI's college verbals. And that the Crush have 3. Playing softball isn't about going to college, its about the character of the girls and playing to have fun and having great memories of their time with their friends. It's learning sportsmanship and gaining skills that can translate into the real world.

If you look at the TLI list,I know for fact that the player going to sacred heart and Dominican are not on Angel's 99 team. Has he resorted to making up players names to pad his ego? Truth in advertising!

All of our tournaments have been great. We played well and we won so many games. I wouldn't trade our experience for the pressure that those girls going to their D1 will have.



Sounds like a bitter man.

Lol. Seems like you go on the tli website a lot. You guys have a better website than tli. They got better content though.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/15/16 10:24 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Im really tired of people in My TOWN telling me aboud all of TLI's college verbals. And that the Crush have 3. Playing softball isn't about going to college, its about the character of the girls and playing to have fun and having great memories of their time with their friends. It's learning sportsmanship and gaining skills that can translate into the real world.

If you look at the TLI list,I know for fact that the player going to sacred heart and Dominican are not on Angel's 99 team. Has he resorted to making up players names to pad his ego? Truth in advertising!

All of our tournaments have been great. We played well and we won so many games. I wouldn't trade our experience for the pressure that those girls going to their D1 will have.



Why does it bother you if all you are interested is havng a great experience and winning a lot of games? So if your teams goal is not to play in college then whatever tli does shouldn't amount to a hill of beans as far as you are concerned.
And those 2 girls, a little google here and there would lead you to tli Westchester. Oh thats a ways from your town.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/15/16 10:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Im really tired of people in My TOWN telling me aboud all of TLI's college verbals. And that the Crush have 3. Playing softball isn't about going to college, its about the character of the girls and playing to have fun and having great memories of their time with their friends. It's learning sportsmanship and gaining skills that can translate into the real world.

If you look at the TLI list,I know for fact that the player going to sacred heart and Dominican are not on Angel's 99 team. Has he resorted to making up players names to pad his ego? Truth in advertising!
All of our tournaments have been great. We played well and we won so many games. I wouldn't trade our experience for the pressure that those girls going to their D1 will have.



Why does it bother you if all you are interested is havng a great experience and winning a lot of games? So if your teams goal is not to play in college then whatever tli does shouldn't amount to a hill of beans as far as you are concerned.
And those 2 girls, a little google here and there would lead you to tli Westchester. Oh thats a ways from your town.


If you are so happy with your team in winning so many games, why do you care so much about TLI??? These girls who are verballed worked so hard because they wanted to play in college. Are you jealous because you have no one in your team that is verballed? Oh thats right, the girls do not want to play in college lol
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/15/16 11:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Wow becoming a little defensive in Bandit land. Lets just remind everyone that the High school awards are voted on by high school coaches and the last time I checked, the coach of Kings Park High school is also the head coach of the 18U Bandits Gold team who also had a say in voting for her daughter and the players that play for her all year long. So before you come on this web site and try to change what the Bandits are all about. Remembers this, what your eyes see, and what your ears hear, is what your heart believes. It is all smoking mirrors, The board members only care about the money and not in developing players. Plain and simply.


Bandits listed a couple of 2015 commitments that are not even in those school's rosters.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/16/16 08:17 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
LI Pride are the organization to play for. They do it right. Honest and talented.

and they make a lot of cash with 17 girls on a team, never saw a team sit so many girls for an entire day
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/16/16 10:50 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Im really tired of people in My TOWN telling me aboud all of TLI's college verbals. And that the Crush have 3. Playing softball isn't about going to college, its about the character of the girls and playing to have fun and having great memories of their time with their friends. It's learning sportsmanship and gaining skills that can translate into the real world.

If you look at the TLI list,I know for fact that the player going to sacred heart and Dominican are not on Angel's 99 team. Has he resorted to making up players names to pad his ego? Truth in advertising!

All of our tournaments have been great. We played well and we won so many games. I wouldn't trade our experience for the pressure that those girls going to their D1 will have.



Maybe, just maybe the people in "your town" are tired of you bragging and talking in superlatives about your team. So they kinda try to pull you down to earth by pointing out to you the disparity in verbals between your team and Tli. Humility after all is a virtue that you do not posses.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/16/16 12:20 PM

Newsday does the ALL team Long Island, NYS sports writers do the All State, and are you suggesting the coach told the other coaches to vote for Bandit players?? Some of the players listed are the best of this years class, Nassau or Suffolk. You are a bitter man who was probably never picked to play and is now living his life thru his DD. Grow up bitter old man, your daughter not making a team is no reflection on you and we honestly don't care about you. Also, my DD NEVER played for the Bandits!!!!! I do, however, know several players that did. These players would run, throw and hit circles around you. Nor would they be on a blog cowardly posting anonymously, neither should I. Be like me, give credit were credit is due, enjoy the experience because you will wake up one day and it is all over and you realize all the drama was a complete waste of time, and worry about your self and your DD. If it is important to you that other people think she is a great softball player, if she is they will tell you. If not, shut up and stay off the blogs Daddy, you and your opinions are insignificant. One last point, several years ago my DD coach was getting blasted on here, I told him to go on and fight back. His response, I don't need to fight back all I do is tell myself that any parent that needs to anonymously blast me is a coward and so torn up inside that nothing I could ever write could top that, thats my revenge.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/16/16 08:37 PM

Well, as a casual observer yet long time coach, nothing about travel ball infuences who receives county awards. im sorry that you feel that way, but that's the way it is.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/17/16 09:03 AM

You have bad info. All the '03 team returned.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/18/16 05:46 AM

What number of players should a team carry. Just looking for people's opinions not bashing of other teams. What worked for your teams in the past and what didn't. I am thanking you all in advance for your serious thoughts and opinions.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/18/16 06:13 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Im really tired of people in My TOWN telling me aboud all of TLI's college verbals. And that the Crush have 3. Playing softball isn't about going to college, its about the character of the girls and playing to have fun and having great memories of their time with their friends. It's learning sportsmanship and gaining skills that can translate into the real world.

If you look at the TLI list,I know for fact that the player going to sacred heart and Dominican are not on Angel's 99 team. Has he resorted to making up players names to pad his ego? Truth in advertising!

All of our tournaments have been great. We played well and we won so many games. I wouldn't trade our experience for the pressure that those girls going to their D1 will have.



Has it ever occurred to you that the people in your "town" has had it with you? The glorified softball manager!

I see the verbal count has added another one.

Lets recap.

2 D1 ( one you had nothing to do with. The other is your dd)
1 D2
1 D3.


Your almost at the coat tails of tli. Just look at it this way, you have 4 more than that other daddy ball team the extreme.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/18/16 01:01 PM

Honest and talented? Don't think so. Saw them at a showcase. They had about 20 kids on their bench from mixed ages. That's a great way to lose players.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/19/16 06:12 AM

What number of players should a team carry. Just looking for people's opinions not bashing of other teams. What worked for your teams in the past and what didn't. I am thanking you all in advance for your serious thoughts and opinions.

I think for a 12U 14U team that that plays off the island
for a third of the time you should have 12 players. Most of the time we played with 11 for one reason or another. which left us 2 subs. So there was plenty of playing time for all. Thirteen was too many and 11 was not enough if a player quit of someone left because of an injury and it left us with 10. for tournaments.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/19/16 12:36 PM

How is the Long Island Heat 16U. are they a legit team?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/19/16 01:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Im really tired of people in My TOWN telling me aboud all of TLI's college verbals. And that the Crush have 3. Playing softball isn't about going to college, its about the character of the girls and playing to have fun and having great memories of their time with their friends. It's learning sportsmanship and gaining skills that can translate into the real world.

If you look at the TLI list,I know for fact that the player going to sacred heart and Dominican are not on Angel's 99 team. Has he resorted to making up players names to pad his ego? Truth in advertising!

All of our tournaments have been great. We played well and we won so many games. I wouldn't trade our experience for the pressure that those girls going to their D1 will have.



Has it ever occurred to you that the people in your "town" has had it with you? The glorified softball manager!

I see the verbal count has added another one.

Lets recap.

2 D1 ( one you had nothing to do with. The other is your dd)
1 D2
1 D3.


Your almost at the coat tails of tli. Just look at it this way, you have 4 more than that other daddy ball team the extreme.



Why would you assume that this was written by anyone associated with Crush, especially the manager you mention. This was not written by him or anyone else. Sounds like someone sick of hearing a sales pitch from TLI with a younger player to me. If you think anyone doesn't have respect for what Team LI does for some of their players, then you are clueless as we expected with the nonsense you write on here. That is pretty obvious from what you wrote that you don't have a clue. Maybe a little jealous, maybe as you certainly sound bitter.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/19/16 01:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
LI Pride are the organization to play for. They do it right. Honest and talented.

and they make a lot of cash with 17 girls on a team, never saw a team sit so many girls for an entire day


OH YEAH!! Still counting the $$$$$$
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/19/16 08:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What number of players should a team carry. Just looking for people's opinions not bashing of other teams. What worked for your teams in the past and what didn't. I am thanking you all in advance for your serious thoughts and opinions.


I know travel is for everyone plays and show their talent but it does not teach the player for the college level. Check out roster sizes. Most colleges in the high teens to mid 20's. Everyone does not play. There are role players. Some only get a couple of AB all season. Some pitchers getting an inning or two all season. They must compete for playing time not get it because there is no other choice. I am finding players do not know how to be good teammates and cheer on their teammates who are better and get to play ahead of them.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/20/16 05:17 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Im really tired of people in My TOWN telling me aboud all of TLI's college verbals. And that the Crush have 3. Playing softball isn't about going to college, its about the character of the girls and playing to have fun and having great memories of their time with their friends. It's learning sportsmanship and gaining skills that can translate into the real world.

If you look at the TLI list,I know for fact that the player going to sacred heart and Dominican are not on Angel's 99 team. Has he resorted to making up players names to pad his ego? Truth in advertising!

All of our tournaments have been great. We played well and we won so many games. I wouldn't trade our experience for the pressure that those girls going to their D1 will have.



Has it ever occurred to you that the people in your "town" has had it with you? The glorified softball manager!

I see the verbal count has added another one.

Lets recap.

2 D1 ( one you had nothing to do with. The other is your dd)
1 D2
1 D3.


Your almost at the coat tails of tli. Just look at it this way, you have 4 more than that other daddy ball team the extreme.



Why would you assume that this was written by anyone associated with Crush, especially the manager you mention. This was not written by him or anyone else. Sounds like someone sick of hearing a sales pitch from TLI with a younger player to me. If you think anyone doesn't have respect for what Team LI does for some of their players, then you are clueless as we expected with the nonsense you write on here. That is pretty obvious from what you wrote that you don't have a clue. Maybe a little jealous, maybe as you certainly sound bitter.


Clueless

Nonsense

Jealous

Bitter.


Sounds like Crush to me.

Just win baby.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/20/16 08:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What number of players should a team carry. Just looking for people's opinions not bashing of other teams. What worked for your teams in the past and what didn't. I am thanking you all in advance for your serious thoughts and opinions.


I know travel is for everyone plays and show their talent but it does not teach the player for the college level. Check out roster sizes. Most colleges in the high teens to mid 20's. Everyone does not play. There are role players. Some only get a couple of AB all season. Some pitchers getting an inning or two all season. They must compete for playing time not get it because there is no other choice. I am finding players do not know how to be good teammates and cheer on their teammates who are better and get to play ahead of them.


You are right, college teams have role players. The difference between travel & college is that you are paying alot of money to be on a travel team, while you are not paying to be on a college team, in fact you might actually be getting paid to be a role player on that college team. If you really want girls to sit on the bench and cheer your daughter on, pay them to do it.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/21/16 08:09 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What number of players should a team carry. Just looking for people's opinions not bashing of other teams. What worked for your teams in the past and what didn't. I am thanking you all in advance for your serious thoughts and opinions.


I know travel is for everyone plays and show their talent but it does not teach the player for the college level. Check out roster sizes. Most colleges in the high teens to mid 20's. Everyone does not play. There are role players. Some only get a couple of AB all
season. Some pitchers getting an inning or two all season. They must compete for playing time not get it because there is no other choice. I am finding players do not know how to be good teammates and cheer on their teammates who are better and get to play ahead of them.


Are you being honest at tryouts? do you tell parents that their daughter will mainly be a role player, that will cheer the better players during most games? If a girl was good enough to make the team, then they should be good enough to play at least part of most if not all games. If an organization is just putting girls on the roster to fatten their coffers, then that is dishonest.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/22/16 04:10 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What number of players should a team carry. Just looking for people's opinions not bashing of other teams. What worked for your teams in the past and what didn't. I am thanking you all in advance for your serious thoughts and opinions.


I know travel is for everyone plays and show their talent but it does not teach the player for the college level. Check out roster sizes. Most colleges in the high teens to mid 20's. Everyone does not play. There are role players. Some only get a couple of AB all season. Some pitchers getting an inning or two all season. They must compete for playing time not get it because there is no other choice. I am finding players do not know how to be good teammates and cheer on their teammates who are better and get to play ahead of them.


upbringing and team culture is the culprit.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/22/16 02:04 PM

Does anyone know where to find the list of all the 12u teams in Nassau? Looking for a 12u team, 2005 player.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/23/16 08:18 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What number of players should a team carry. Just looking for people's opinions not bashing of other teams. What worked for your teams in the past and what didn't. I am thanking you all in advance for your serious thoughts and opinions.


I know travel is for everyone plays and show their talent but it does not teach the player for the college level. Check out roster sizes. Most colleges in the high teens to mid 20's. Everyone does not play. There are role players. Some only get a couple of AB all season. Some pitchers getting an inning or two all season. They must compete for playing time not get it because there is no other choice. I am finding players do not know how to be good teammates and cheer on their teammates who are better and get to play ahead of them.


You are right, college teams have role players. The difference between travel & college is that you are paying alot of money to be on a travel team, while you are not paying to be on a college team, in fact you might actually be getting paid to be a role player on that college team. If you really want girls to sit on the bench and cheer your daughter on, pay them to do it.


Your dd will have to compete like crazy once they play at the college level. Some girls have higher opinions of themselves for having a starting pretty much FT position on a team when the fact of the matter is their was no one else to take the spot. They are not competing and will have a wake up call in College. Just pick a school that fits them best ALL AROUND...the best way to set your dd up for failure: not letting her play a part in the decision, going only for a sport or going only for the name of a school that she won't be able to keep up in academically (even if softball wasn't involved!).

Not an easy process and lets face it no matter what school your dd signs with people will ALWAYS have something to say!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/23/16 09:02 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What number of players should a team carry. Just looking for people's opinions not bashing of other teams. What worked for your teams in the past and what didn't. I am thanking you all in advance for your serious thoughts and opinions.


I know travel is for everyone plays and show their talent but it does not teach the player for the college level. Check out roster sizes. Most colleges in the high teens to mid 20's. Everyone does not play. There are role players. Some only get a couple of AB all season. Some pitchers getting an inning or two all season. They must compete for playing time not get it because there is no other choice. I am finding players do not know how to be good teammates and cheer on their teammates who are better and get to play ahead of them.


You are right, college teams have role players. The difference between travel & college is that you are paying alot of money to be on a travel team, while you are not paying to be on a college team, in fact you might actually be getting paid to be a role player on that college team. If you really want girls to sit on the bench and cheer your daughter on, pay them to do it.


Many kids are paying to go to college. Even at the top level, D1, they only have 12 scholarships. They have a roster of 20-25, you do the math. Many get more money from their academics, which any student can get, than athletic. At D2 they have 7.1 scholarships and D3 there aren't any athletic scholarships. Each level has about the same amount on the roster.
If a kid can't handle sitting/role and waiting their turn then they most likely will not be a good teammate and that will not be good for the team culture.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/23/16 09:37 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Does anyone know where to find the list of all the 12u teams in Nassau? Looking for a 12u team, 2005 player.


I don't know of a list but it all depends on what you want and the level where your daughter is at. I personally think at her age you want her on a team where she will get the most playing time. Shes young - playing and learning the game are more important than being on the top teams. By second year 14U-16U you should be looking to go to more competitive teams (if that's what she wants). For now I wouldn't spend the big money....look at Long Island Thunder, Nitro or Bluefire I'm sure others have ideas too.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/23/16 03:38 PM

There are many teams out there.. Several are competitive, depends on her level or what you are looking for as a family.. I took my DD to several tryouts this summer. To see where my DD was a player, I'm happy where she landed. TLI has two one 04,05 Bluefire has two teams, Chiefs, thunder and surge all had a good tryout.. I will say this the TLI returning girls were far more advanced fundamentally especially on defense. Not sure how successful they were last season but the are being taught very well.. I would start there and work you're way through the rest... FYI I won't say where she landed because it wasn't TLI and don't want to offend anyone.... Good luck with your DD
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/23/16 08:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What number of players should a team carry. Just looking for people's opinions not bashing of other teams. What worked for your teams in the past and what didn't. I am thanking you all in advance for your serious thoughts and opinions.


I know travel is for everyone plays and show their talent but it does not teach the player for the college level. Check out roster sizes. Most colleges in the high teens to mid 20's. Everyone does not play. There are role players. Some only get a couple of AB all season. Some pitchers getting an inning or two all season. They must compete for playing time not get it because there is no other choice. I am finding players do not know how to be good teammates and cheer on their teammates who are better and get to play ahead of them.


You are right, college teams have role players. The difference between travel & college is that you are paying alot of money to be on a travel team, while you are not paying to be on a college team, in fact you might actually be getting paid to be a role player on that college team. If you really want girls to sit on the bench and cheer your daughter on, pay them to do it.


Many kids are paying to go to college. Even at the top level, D1, they only have 12 scholarships. They have a roster of 20-25, you do the math. Many get more money from their academics, which any student can get, than athletic. At D2 they have 7.1 scholarships and D3 there aren't any athletic scholarships. Each level has about the same amount on the roster.
If a kid can't handle sitting/role and waiting their turn then they most likely will not be a good teammate and that will not be good for the team culture.

Kids are paying for a college degree, so if they are not playing much, at least they will get something that could payoff financially later in life. Not playing on a travel team has no positive benefit, how do players get better if they're just cheering. I agree that most teams have 3 or 4 top players on their teams, but the others are probably close in talent, so everybody should be playing parts of all games, if I was the coach anyway. Guess that's why I'm not a coach
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/24/16 09:04 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Does anyone know where to find the list of all the 12u teams in Nassau? Looking for a 12u team, 2005 player.


I don't know of a list but it all depends on what you want and the level where your daughter is at. I personally think at her age you want her on a team where she will get the most playing time. Shes young - playing and learning the game are more important than being on the top teams. By second year 14U-16U you should be looking to go to more competitive teams (if that's what she wants). For now I wouldn't spend the big money....look at Long Island Thunder, Nitro or Bluefire I'm sure others have ideas too.


The one caveat is that although you want a lot of playing time, you also want her to be taught correctly. I'm not sure you will get that with the teams you mentioned since I don't know the caliber or experience of those coaches. As the saying goes, It's harder to break a bad habit then it is to teach a new one. You will need to evaluate that on your own on a coach by coach basis. Best of luck.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/24/16 09:19 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What number of players should a team carry. Just looking for people's opinions not bashing of other teams. What worked for your teams in the past and what didn't. I am thanking you all in advance for your serious thoughts and opinions.


I know travel is for everyone plays and show their talent but it does not teach the player for the college level. Check out roster sizes. Most colleges in the high teens to mid 20's. Everyone does not play. There are role players. Some only get a couple of AB all season. Some pitchers getting an inning or two all season. They must compete for playing time not get it because there is no other choice. I am finding players do not know how to be good teammates and cheer on their teammates who are better and get to play ahead of them.


You are right, college teams have role players. The difference between travel & college is that you are paying alot of money to be on a travel team, while you are not paying to be on a college team, in fact you might actually be getting paid to be a role player on that college team. If you really want girls to sit on the bench and cheer your daughter on, pay them to do it.


Many kids are paying to go to college. Even at the top level, D1, they only have 12 scholarships. They have a roster of 20-25, you do the math. Many get more money from their academics, which any student can get, than athletic. At D2 they have 7.1 scholarships and D3 there aren't any athletic scholarships. Each level has about the same amount on the roster.
If a kid can't handle sitting/role and waiting their turn then they most likely will not be a good teammate and that will not be good for the team culture.


Scholarship Thresholds for Softball Only:
Div 1 = 12
Div 2 = 7.2
Div 3 = 0
NAIA = 10
NJCAA = 24
IVY = 0

Average Athletic Scholarship per Division across the board for all female sports:
Div 1 = $15,162
Div 2 = $6,814
Div 3 = 0
NAIA = $6,964
NJCAA = $2,810
Ivy = $0
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/25/16 07:55 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
LI Force in Bellmore/Wantagh area one of the best. Very good coaches and excellent new facility.


LOL


May the Farce be with you.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/25/16 08:30 AM


I know travel is for everyone plays and show their talent but it does not teach the player for the college level. Check out roster sizes. Most colleges in the high teens to mid 20's. Everyone does not play. There are role players. Some only get a couple of AB all season. Some pitchers getting an inning or two all season. They must compete for playing time not get it because there is no other choice. I am finding players do not know how to be good teammates and cheer on their teammates who are better and get to play ahead of them. [/quote]

You are right, college teams have role players. The difference between travel & college is that you are paying alot of money to be on a travel team, while you are not paying to be on a college team, in fact you might actually be getting paid to be a role player on that college team. If you really want girls to sit on the bench and cheer your daughter on, pay them to do it. [/quote]

Many kids are paying to go to college. Even at the top level, D1, they only have 12 scholarships. They have a roster of 20-25, you do the math. Many get more money from their academics, which any student can get, than athletic. At D2 they have 7.1 scholarships and D3 there aren't any athletic scholarships. Each level has about the same amount on the roster.
If a kid can't handle sitting/role and waiting their turn then they most likely will not be a good teammate and that will not be good for the team culture. [/quote]

Scholarship Thresholds for Softball Only:
Div 1 = 12
Div 2 = 7.2
Div 3 = 0
NAIA = 10
NJCAA = 24
IVY = 0

Average Athletic Scholarship per Division across the board for all female sports:
Div 1 = $15,162
Div 2 = $6,814
Div 3 = 0
NAIA = $6,964
NJCAA = $2,810
Ivy = $0[/quote]

Wbat is NAIA and NJCAA?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/26/16 05:58 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
LI Force in Bellmore/Wantagh area one of the best. Very good coaches and excellent new facility.


LOL


May the Farce be with you.


Bellmore is Daddy Ball central.lmao
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/26/16 07:11 AM

As a college athlete, in general, you are either part of the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) or National Association of Intercollegiate Athletics (NAIA). Each come with their own set of rules, schools, budgets, and more. With media the way it is these days, the NCAA tends to grab the most attention while the NAIA is somewhat of an afterthought.

Quick NCAA vs. NAIA breakdown

The NAIA "has 50,000 student-athletes participating at nearly 300 member colleges and universities throughout the United States and Canada . . . it offers 23 championships in 13 sports" according to NAIA.org .
The NCAA "oversees 89 championships in 23 sports...there are more than 400,000 student-athletes competing in three divisions at over 1,000 colleges and universities within the NCAA" according to NCAA.org .
Why choose the NAIA?

As it is with all things in life, it's important to check out all of your options. It's possible all along you might have been planning to head to a NCAA school, but what about NAIA?

The NAIA can offer just as good as an education and athletic experience than the NCAA and one of my favorite parts about it is, way less restrictions during the recruitment process. Sign me up!

Why NAIA might be the way to go

Competition: If you don't think you can cut it at a NCAA Division I school, NAIA athletics are compared to Division II-level playing. You would have a good shot of starting on an NAIA team instead of being benched on a NCAA Division I team.
Flexibility. The NAIA is not as strict as the NCAA. The NAIA allows its schools/conferences to handle their own rules and budgets. This is a great point because schools and conferences can work with what they've got instead of conforming to a set of rules for the entire NAIA organization.
Academic success. The NAIA is completely centered around the total meaning of being a student-athlete. You have to be academically responsible, moving towards completing your degree with reasonable grades in order to even think about playing.
Size. In general, NAIA schools are smaller, which in itself can be a plus for your academics, social life, and athletics. It's easier to not get lost in the mix in these schools.
Recruitment. NCAA has rules for rules. There are rules for each division and each sport for each high school year that you are being recruited. It can be exhausting. The NAIA of course has rules, but they are not as intricate and also allow for a more personalized process. The member services PDF provided by the NAIA says it best: “recruitment process provides many opportunities to get to know potential students and meaningfully evaluate the institutional fit.” Visit NAIA.org to learn the nitty-gritty about their recruitment.
At the end of the day, the NAIA is probably never going to be as "glamorous" as the NCAA, but it is no less of a choice when choosing which school to attend. Neither association has an effect on the education you will receive or how much of an amazing time you'll have playing your sport. If anything, they are both in existence to make sure that you have the best possible experience, athletically and academically.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/26/16 07:16 AM

NJCAA (from the perspective of a non US citizen but makes the point):

The NJCAA is the baby of all the divisions in the US, however it is not something to be rejected in the slightest. NJCAA schools are only 2 years long. You go to these THEN you transfer to a 4 year institute (NCAA, NAIA). The level of soccer is often on par with NAIA and NCAA Division 2.

This is a great route for players looking to get higher scholarship money, but who also have lower standard of academics. It is essentially a great way of getting in the door and being seen. Coaches from NCAA D1, D2 and NAIA levels would rather take a player from NJCAA then from outside of the US (like you are right now). This is because they can see you in the college sports setting, but see how your academics are doing within the US system.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/26/16 09:46 AM

TLI 05 had a great year. Their season results are posted on their Facebook page. They finished their season as runner-up at Pony Nationals. I would agree that they are far more advanced fundamentally.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/28/16 02:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
TLI 05 had a great year. Their season results are posted on their Facebook page. They finished their season as runner-up at Pony Nationals. I would agree that they are far more advanced fundamentally.


there were 10 teams at nationals, the results are nice but that needs to be mentioned
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/29/16 10:42 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
TLI 05 had a great year. Their season results are posted on their Facebook page. They finished their season as runner-up at Pony Nationals. I would agree that they are far more advanced fundamentally.


there were 10 teams at nationals, the results are nice but that needs to be mentioned


Why don't you mention where your team was during the 10 team nationals.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/29/16 04:44 PM

Ten teams better then every team on Long Island. If we want to mention everything.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/29/16 08:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
TLI 05 had a great year. Their season results are posted on their Facebook page. They finished their season as runner-up at Pony Nationals. I would agree that they are far more advanced fundamentally.


there were 10 teams at nationals, the results are nice but that needs to be mentioned


Why does that need to be mentioned? Obviously to take a cheap shot at a bunch of 10 year olds. What team you with? What Nationals you play?

USSSA Nationals had 30 teams, but half of them were very weak teams not worth traveling to Maryland to play. Of the better teams that TLI 05 played and that were at USSSA Nationals, TLI 05 already beat the USSSA National Champion Cobras (best overall 10U team this year), beat the 5th place Vienna Stars twice, beat the 9th place Outlaws, beat the 9th place Bluefire and beat the 13th place Cannons, and on and on.

TLI 05 also beat every quality team they played last year on Long Island multiple times.

05 Banshees and Loudoun Liberty were at PONY Nationals and were some of the top 10U teams seen all year. Beat them too.

But that was 10U softball. Stop worrying about what TLI 05 did. I’d recommend focusing on your team and your training. You are gonna need it at 12U… unless you want to beat up local Long Island teams all year.

Good luck this season.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/29/16 08:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Ten teams better then every team on Long Island. If we want to mention everything.


Really good teams don't come on here and talk about themselves. As a member of your org, this is not a forum for you to stick your chest out. It reflects on all of us. Just play.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/30/16 01:49 AM

Why are organizations deceptive when they list their college committs when some of the girls aren't even going to play at the college?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/30/16 07:17 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Ten teams better then every team on Long Island. If we want to mention everything.


Don't be so sensitive Mr. TLI, those ten team only a few were any good
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/30/16 11:24 AM

OK, so you mentioned it. Feel better. SMH, because it really sounds petty and jealous. The fact that you need to denigrate the achievement tells us everything we need to know.

Out of 10 competitive teams, they came in second at a National Tournament.

As for "Ten teams better than every team on Long Island", the results tell a very different story my friend. Pathetic that you felt the need to make that comment.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/31/16 06:01 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
TLI 05 had a great year. Their season results are posted on their Facebook page. They finished their season as runner-up at Pony Nationals. I would agree that they are far more advanced fundamentally.


there were 10 teams at nationals, the results are nice but that needs to be mentioned


And your team was at the summer sizzle. 7
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 08/31/16 12:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
TLI 05 had a great year. Their season results are posted on their Facebook page. They finished their season as runner-up at Pony Nationals. I would agree that they are far more advanced fundamentally.


there were 10 teams at nationals, the results are nice but that needs to be mentioned


What results does YOUR team have that are worth mentioning?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/02/16 10:25 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Ten teams better then every team on Long Island. If we want to mention everything.


Not the bluefire! Since you're mentioning everything.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/02/16 05:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Why are organizations deceptive when they list their college committs when some of the girls aren't even going to play at the college?


Because they are going to that college for an education. Which should be the top reason to pick a school
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/02/16 06:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Why are organizations deceptive when they list their college committs when some of the girls aren't even going to play at the college?

Why is it deceptive to list a girl with the school she is attending. She is part of the team and maybe they are looking out for the girl. What the hell do you care?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/02/16 06:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Ten teams better then every team on Long Island. If we want to mention everything.


Really good teams don't come on here and talk about themselves. As a member of your org, this is not a forum for you to stick your chest out. It reflects on all of us. Just play.

Yes they do because every team has parents that are crazy
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/02/16 09:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Why are organizations deceptive when they list their college committs when some of the girls aren't even going to play at the college?



The Surge and the bluefire are biggest culprit.

So and so is attending such and such university going to major in this and that AND has been invited to tryout for the softball team. Lmao.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/03/16 06:43 AM

Not on the team or in the organization. Oh and there is nothing wrong with being loud and proud. These parents and girls put a lot of time into what their doing.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/03/16 06:46 AM

I thought BlueFire folded. What's BlueFire record without the hired help.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/03/16 11:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Ten teams better then every team on Long Island. If we want to mention everything.


Not the bluefire! Since you're mentioning everything.



Bluefire is the biggest dead end organization on Long Island. If your kid has talent, start marking the August 2017 tryouts on your calendar before it is too late.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/05/16 10:22 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Ten teams better then every team on Long Island. If we want to mention everything.


Not the bluefire! Since you're mentioning everything.



Bluefire is the biggest dead end organization on Long Island. If your kid has talent, start marking the August 2017 tryouts on your calendar before it is too late.


Don't have to wait that long. Email other organization and see if they will give your dd a workout/tryout. Can't hurt to ask.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/05/16 10:25 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Why are organizations deceptive when they list their college committs when some of the girls aren't even going to play at the college?

Why is it deceptive to list a girl with the school she is attending. She is part of the team and maybe they are looking out for the girl. What the hell do you care?


Whats really deceptive is listing kids supposedly playing in d1 schools and only to find out that they're not even in the current roster. List the kids that are playing in college. After all you have a softball website.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/05/16 10:30 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I thought BlueFire folded. What's BlueFire record without the hired help.


Bluefire has a pyramid philosophy that is an envy of other established organization. They always are Exceeding Expectations.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/05/16 08:49 PM

Let's talk about hired help and how the Lady Vipers 03 team played in 12u this weekend against some girls 2-3 years younger at Havoc at the Harbor and used players from TLI to help them win (including a pitcher).
That is disgraceful. There are too many teams out there who are using players from other teams to help them win. CdSomething needs to be done to stop this.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/06/16 07:39 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Ten teams better then every team on Long Island. If we want to mention everything.


Not the bluefire! Since you're mentioning everything.



Bluefire is the biggest dead end organization on Long Island. If your kid has talent, start marking the August 2017 tryouts on your calendar before it is too late.


This is as low as low class gets. Try to take advantage of young ladies then come on here and bad mouth Bluefire. This is a well run organization that is not going to let some father do whatever he wants, if you are in the top 1% go to TLI, spend your money, get exposure for your daughter, otherwise Bluefire is an excellent option.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/06/16 10:41 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Why are organizations deceptive when they list their college committs when some of the girls aren't even going to play at the college?


Because they are going to that college for an education. Which should be the top reason to pick a school


Listing a college on a softball website when that player isn't playing on the softball team is blatantly misleading and deceptive because it implies a competency in that organization for preparing athletes to play softball in college. That is completely different than being accepted to school for other reasons (grades, SAT, music, etc.).

Going to that college for the education IS the top reason to pick a school, but post that info on Facebook or something if it had nothing to do with softball. Posting any college info on a softball website when the student isn't playing softball at that college is an obvious attempt by the organization to falsely advertise its development of SOFTBALL players. Many unknowing parents are fooled into giving organizations thousands and thousands of dollars for SOFTBALL because of these deceptive tactics.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/06/16 08:32 PM

Why would anyone want to be part of the BANDIT ORGANIZATION ???
Down to 5 teams. They can't fill there rosters. 12U That is funny, No 14U they got smart. Two 16U teams, one is playing in only 3 tournament and a one day tournament. The elite should change there name to delete and the gold will be looking for a new head coach by next year. How are they going to pay for the shoe box they call home ??? Congrats to the Board you are half way their to running the once feared and respected organization into the ground. LMAO
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/07/16 08:15 AM

Amazing how 3 guys get thrown out of Bluefire and all the Bluefire bashing starts, wonder who could be writing this garbage? losers.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/10/16 06:50 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Amazing how 3 guys get thrown out of Bluefire and all the Bluefire bashing starts, wonder who could be writing this garbage? losers.


You are giving those 3 guys too much credit. fact is bluefire is very well deserving of all the criticism on this board. There is a huge world outside of bellmore. Step outside from time to time and experience life outside of daddy ball central.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/10/16 06:56 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Ten teams better then every team on Long Island. If we want to mention everything.


Not the bluefire! Since you're mentioning everything.



Bluefire is the biggest dead end organization on Long Island. If your kid has talent, start marking the August 2017 tryouts on your calendar before it is too late.


This is as low as low class gets. Try to take advantage of young ladies then come on here and bad mouth Bluefire. This is a well run organization that is not going to let some father do whatever he wants, if you are in the top 1% go to TLI, spend your money, get exposure for your daughter, otherwise Bluefire is an excellent option.


Excellent option?? Really ?!?! Must be some potent kool aid they have been passing around. Website and their college commitments are deceiving. Just an organization i would want taking care of my dd. yeah, no thanks. their all yours.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/10/16 10:43 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Ten teams better then every team on Long Island. If we want to mention everything.


Not the bluefire! Since you're mentioning everything.



Bluefire is the biggest dead end organization on Long Island. If your kid has talent, start marking the August 2017 tryouts on your calendar before it is too late.


This is as low as low class gets. Try to take advantage of young ladies then come on here and bad mouth Bluefire. This is a well run organization that is not going to let some father do whatever he wants, if you are in the top 1% go to TLI, spend your money, get exposure for your daughter, otherwise Bluefire is an excellent option.


Excellent option to what? Getting kids tryputs in college? You dont need a travel team to get you a tryout. There open tryouts, anyone can go and tryout.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/10/16 02:01 PM

Have to share this. Stubbled across the stupidest movie, not sure why anyone other then parents of travel softball players would have any interest in this movie, of which I am one as a coach of my daughters 14U team.

All-Stars.

'All-Stars' is a commentary on the state of "kiddie softball today, fueled by the outrageous behavior of the desperate sports parent living vicariously through their daughters.

Buying expensive bats, parents campaigning for DD to get spot on the team, parents questioning every coaches move. You pick which parent character you are. Miller-lite guzzling in the OF by yourself? Dad in dugout telling kids where to stand in the batters box? Stat-man? Wanna be coaches?

Should be shown by every travel team before every season. As a documentary, not as its intended comedy.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/11/16 08:32 PM

Heard Bluefire got a new 14u coach. You could have coach Finch there and wouldn't make difference. Same old Bluefire. You lost the only good team you had. Poor lobster Joe...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/12/16 04:18 AM



Excellent option to what? Getting kids tryputs in college? You dont need a travel team to get you a tryout. There open tryouts, anyone can go and tryout. [/quote]

You feel any kid can go to a college and get a walk on tryout?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/12/16 08:26 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Heard Bluefire got a new 14u coach. You could have coach Finch there and wouldn't make difference. Same old Bluefire. You lost the only good team you had. Poor lobster Joe...


That new coach better memorize the pyramid philosophy and get a tatoo saying Exceeding Expectations.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/12/16 12:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Why would anyone want to be part of the BANDIT ORGANIZATION ???
Down to 5 teams. They can't fill there rosters. 12U That is funny, No 14U they got smart. Two 16U teams, one is playing in only 3 tournament and a one day tournament. The elite should change there name to delete and the gold will be looking for a new head coach by next year. How are they going to pay for the shoe box they call home ??? Congrats to the Board you are half way their to running the once feared and respected organization into the ground. LMAO


If you are NOT PLAYING FOR THE BANDITS WHY DO YOU CARE??????
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/12/16 08:40 PM

Can someone please tell us how much it costs to play for team Long Island? And if you make the team and then tell them you really can't afford it-what happens then?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/12/16 10:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Let's talk about hired help and how the Lady Vipers 03 team played in 12u this weekend against some girls 2-3 years younger at Havoc at the Harbor and used players from TLI to help them win (including a pitcher).
That is disgraceful. There are too many teams out there who are using players from other teams to help them win. CdSomething needs to be done to stop this.


Don't play is town tournaments and USSSA where this is allowed. Play PONY tournaments where there is an Add\Drop player form with fee that has to be completed and signed off and can only be done twice.
Some of the USSSA state directors have a guest player form as well, but not even close to the same as Pony. Why do you think Pony tournaments don't fill on the island, because too much of that nonsense going on. Parent and coaches should be ashamed of themselves for doing this to their daughters and managers for doing this to their players. Go win with your own team!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/12/16 10:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Ten teams better then every team on Long Island. If we want to mention everything.


Not the bluefire! Since you're mentioning everything.



Bluefire is the biggest dead end organization on Long Island. If your kid has talent, start marking the August 2017 tryouts on your calendar before it is too late.


This is as low as low class gets. Try to take advantage of young ladies then come on here and bad mouth Bluefire. This is a well run organization that is not going to let some father do whatever he wants, if you are in the top 1% go to TLI, spend your money, get exposure for your daughter, otherwise Bluefire is an excellent option.


Spoken like a TRUE daddy baller! Bluefire is a jOKE like the guy who runs it. $$$$$$
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/13/16 03:04 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous


Excellent option to what? Getting kids tryputs in college? You dont need a travel team to get you a tryout. There open tryouts, anyone can go and tryout.


You feel any kid can go to a college and get a walk on tryout? [/quote]

Tryouts are posted and are open to the student body. No invitation necessary.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/13/16 06:25 AM

Well said.... Then coaches wonder why families leave. Question loyalty? Kids play and practice all season to then sit for a girl that's coming out of state to play.. Smh don't get me wrong kids sitting isn't the problem, they should be sitting for their teammate that's been working just as hard. But good luck to you all we are happy where we are!! Don't be surprise when that hired gun gets on the LI team that her Dad really wants her to be on!!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/13/16 06:41 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Let's talk about hired help and how the Lady Vipers 03 team played in 12u this weekend against some girls 2-3 years younger at Havoc at the Harbor and used players from TLI to help them win (including a pitcher).
That is disgraceful. There are too many teams out there who are using players from other teams to help them win. CdSomething needs to be done to stop this.


Don't play is town tournaments and USSSA where this is allowed. Play PONY tournaments where there is an Add\Drop player form with fee that has to be completed and signed off and can only be done twice.
Some of the USSSA state directors have a guest player form as well, but not even close to the same as Pony. Why do you think Pony tournaments don't fill on the island, because too much of that nonsense going on. Parent and coaches should be ashamed of themselves for doing this to their daughters and managers for doing this to their players. Go win with your own team!


Tell me one tournament where they check rosters? USSSA or PONY they don't care, half the time all they ask for is your insurance. I have been to many "good" tournaments and nothing, Diamond Nation, Nightmare Witches, Deleware none have checked the roster.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/13/16 08:33 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous


Excellent option to what? Getting kids tryputs in college? You dont need a travel team to get you a tryout. There open tryouts, anyone can go and tryout.


You feel any kid can go to a college and get a walk on tryout?


Tryouts are posted and are open to the student body. No invitation necessary. [/quote]


2 classifications of student athletes on a team. One are those that are recruited, promised athletic and academic scholarships. The 2nd are walk ons. Those kids that are matriculated already and then try out for the team. Do they get athletic money when they make the team? The answer is no. Anyone can tryout for the team. Invitations are not necessary.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/13/16 01:01 PM

We were never told the actual cost at tryouts. They said it depends on how many tournaments the team does. I was told it would be around $1200. If you can't afford it, then I guess you would just quit, but check if there's a refund policy in the contract. I believe the Gold team is more like $3000/player, they travel out of state, & have paid coaches so their expenses need to be paid. It would be less if they had a parent coach
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/14/16 08:34 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous


Excellent option to what? Getting kids tryputs in college? You dont need a travel team to get you a tryout. There open tryouts, anyone can go and tryout.


You feel any kid can go to a college and get a walk on tryout? [/quote]


Was it sold to you that getting a an invite to tryout os the next best thing to being verballed then recruited? Then that guy is good. Getting to be part kf a team as a walk om doesnt necessarily translate to be given athletic scholarship money the following year. First you have to play and play really well then maybe just maybe that the coach might have extra money to give away. But since your dd is already going to that school then there is no sense of urgency on the coach part unlike those she verbals.

A lot of times this is the speech gives your dd.
" i really like the way you play though we are done with the 2017s, i could see you making the team as a walkon. Or i will have a spot for you on our team as a walk on. "
And that is why when you see a college team there are at least 20 kids on the roster. As a walk on you get everything equipment wise as the scholarship athlete. Its only that you do not get the money.

Just
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/14/16 10:42 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous


Excellent option to what? Getting kids tryputs in college? You dont need a travel team to get you a tryout. There open tryouts, anyone can go and tryout.


You feel any kid can go to a college and get a walk on tryout?


Tryouts are posted and are open to the student body. No invitation necessary. [/quote]

Apparently you have no idea on how the process works. Sure, the 65 year old grandma who always wanted to finish up her college degree and heads back to school still has 4 years of NCAA eligibility left can certainly walk on and tryout. But, lets make one thing clear, unless you are a pitcher and show up throwing 70mph or roll off every soft toss pitch for a home run over the wall by 50 feet, you are better off playing the slots in Vegas if you think you have any chance of making a college roster (with no money). Of course, if you are talking about a low level Division 3 program, or an Intramural or Club Level team then Yes, you totally get the process. Good Luck pumping up your DD telling her, "Travel Ball means nothing honey, I'll teach you how to hit, field, run, pitch, and throw like I did back in High School in 1975 and you can walk on at Alabama next year and show them whatcha got!". Best of Luck with that approach! Let us know how you and your DD make out. Post some videos online with a link so we can see the second coming of Jenny Finch.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/14/16 04:05 PM

So true
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/14/16 08:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous


Excellent option to what? Getting kids tryputs in college? You dont need a travel team to get you a tryout. There open tryouts, anyone can go and tryout.


You feel any kid can go to a college and get a walk on tryout?


Tryouts are posted and are open to the student body. No invitation necessary. [/quote]

You better be a stud because there is no way a walk on gets a spot over a recruited kid. If they have an open spot she will make it if she is one of the best walk ons
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/14/16 10:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous


Excellent option to what? Getting kids tryputs in college? You dont need a travel team to get you a tryout. There open tryouts, anyone can go and tryout.


You feel any kid can go to a college and get a walk on tryout?


Tryouts are posted and are open to the student body. No invitation necessary.


Apparently you have no idea on how the process works. Sure, the 65 year old grandma who always wanted to finish up her college degree and heads back to school still has 4 years of NCAA eligibility left can certainly walk on and tryout. But, lets make one thing clear, unless you are a pitcher and show up throwing 70mph or roll off every soft toss pitch for a home run over the wall by 50 feet, you are better off playing the slots in Vegas if you think you have any chance of making a college roster (with no money). Of course, if you are talking about a low level Division 3 program, or an Intramural or Club Level team then Yes, you totally get the process. Good Luck pumping up your DD telling her, "Travel Ball means nothing honey, I'll teach you how to hit, field, run, pitch, and throw like I did back in High School in 1975 and you can walk on at Alabama next year and show them whatcha got!". Best of Luck with that approach! Let us know how you and your DD make out. Post some videos online with a link so we can see the second coming of Jenny Finch.[/quote]

Put down the light beer and try to understand what is being asked. The question was do you think any kid can get to tryout for the team? Now after all your blabbering what is the answer to the question is YES. Sheesh that's what happens when you mix light beer with wine coolers.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/15/16 07:43 AM

You feel any kid can go to a college and get a walk on tryout? [/quote]

Tryouts are posted and are open to the student body. No invitation necessary. [/quote]

Apparently you have no idea on how the process works. Sure, the 65 year old grandma who always wanted to finish up her college degree and heads back to school still has 4 years of NCAA eligibility left can certainly walk on and tryout. But, lets make one thing clear, unless you are a pitcher and show up throwing 70mph or roll off every soft toss pitch for a home run over the wall by 50 feet, you are better off playing the slots in Vegas if you think you have any chance of making a college roster (with no money). Of course, if you are talking about a low level Division 3 program, or an Intramural or Club Level team then Yes, you totally get the process. Good Luck pumping up your DD telling her, "Travel Ball means nothing honey, I'll teach you how to hit, field, run, pitch, and throw like I did back in High School in 1975 and you can walk on at Alabama next year and show them whatcha got!". Best of Luck with that approach! Let us know how you and your DD make out. Post some videos online with a link so we can see the second coming of Jenny Finch.[/quote]

Put down the light beer and try to understand what is being asked. The question was do you think any kid can get to tryout for the team? Now after all your blabbering what is the answer to the question is YES. Sheesh that's what happens when you mix light beer with wine coolers. [/quote]

Chiming in late here...I had a conversation with a D3 coach once about try outs. He said they have them every year but basically if he didn't already know who the kid was they probably wouldn't make the team. So I suggest if your plan is to go to a school with the hopes of walking on you get to a lot of their camps before then and keep sending emails/videos etc.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/15/16 01:04 PM

D1, D2 forget about walk on (or tryout) Some D1, D2 may still be looking for a player in the summer of their senior year but not likely. If you are already accepted and planing on going to the school it is possible to get the coach to come see you play over the summer and possibly be offered a no money spot on the roster.
D3- many think that they do not commit players, which is false. Most D3 are committing players starting the summer just before senior year. If you are going to a competitive softball D3, it is very likely they have committed most of the players they will need long before any tryouts.
If they didn't offer you a roster spot (D3)chances are they did not see what they were looking for at that time, but it is possible as many players going to a D3 schools will be driven by the best school that makes academic and financial sense.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/16/16 09:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Let's talk about hired help and how the Lady Vipers 03 team played in 12u this weekend against some girls 2-3 years younger at Havoc at the Harbor and used players from TLI to help them win (including a pitcher).
That is disgraceful. There are too many teams out there who are using players from other teams to help them win. CdSomething needs to be done to stop this.


Don't play is town tournaments and USSSA where this is allowed. Play PONY tournaments where there is an Add\Drop player form with fee that has to be completed and signed off and can only be done twice.
Some of the USSSA state directors have a guest player form as well, but not even close to the same as Pony. Why do you think Pony tournaments don't fill on the island, because too much of that nonsense going on. Parent and coaches should be ashamed of themselves for doing this to their daughters and managers for doing this to their players. Go win with your own team!


Tell me one tournament where they check rosters? USSSA or PONY they don't care, half the time all they ask for is your insurance. I have been to many "good" tournaments and nothing, Diamond Nation, Nightmare Witches, Deleware none have checked the roster.


You have obviously not played at those tournaments! Come on now, keep it real.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/17/16 07:09 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous


Excellent option to what? Getting kids tryputs in college? You dont need a travel team to get you a tryout. There open tryouts, anyone can go and tryout.


You feel any kid can go to a college and get a walk on tryout?


Tryouts are posted and are open to the student body. No invitation necessary.


Apparently you have no idea on how the process works. Sure, the 65 year old grandma who always wanted to finish up her college degree and heads back to school still has 4 years of NCAA eligibility left can certainly walk on and tryout. But, lets make one thing clear, unless you are a pitcher and show up throwing 70mph or roll off every soft toss pitch for a home run over the wall by 50 feet, you are better off playing the slots in Vegas if you think you have any chance of making a college roster (with no money). Of course, if you are talking about a low level Division 3 program, or an Intramural or Club Level team then Yes, you totally get the process. Good Luck pumping up your DD telling her, "Travel Ball means nothing honey, I'll teach you how to hit, field, run, pitch, and throw like I did back in High School in 1975 and you can walk on at Alabama next year and show them whatcha got!". Best of Luck with that approach! Let us know how you and your DD make out. Post some videos online with a link so we can see the second coming of Jenny Finch.[/quote]

You take the award of the inebriated imbecile from the island. All schools have open tryouts. Every team will not turn down a player if she is no cost to the team other than uniforms which are all paid for if it a D1 school your dd is going to. Realistically, will a walk on get playing time? You have more chances un consuming 12 light beers in one sitting than your walk on dd get playing time. But hey you'll never know. So blabbering like you really know what your talking about and after your 7th ligjt beer, what ever nonsense comes out of your mouth will sound like the truth. Now twist one open for me, whip out your ipad and act like you know.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/17/16 10:21 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
D1, D2 forget about walk on (or tryout) Some D1, D2 may still be looking for a player in the summer of their senior year but not likely. If you are already accepted and planing on going to the school it is possible to get the coach to come see you play over the summer and possibly be offered a no money spot on the roster.
D3- many think that they do not commit players, which is false. Most D3 are committing players starting the summer just before senior year. If you are going to a competitive softball D3, it is very likely they have committed most of the players they will need long before any tryouts.
If they didn't offer you a roster spot (D3)chances are they did not see what they were looking for at that time, but it is possible as many players going to a D3 schools will be driven by the best school that makes academic and financial sense.


Thank you. Finally a post that can be of help. Appreciate your time.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/17/16 05:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
D1, D2 forget about walk on (or tryout) Some D1, D2 may still be looking for a player in the summer of their senior year but not likely. If you are already accepted and planing on going to the school it is possible to get the coach to come see you play over the summer and possibly be offered a no money spot on the roster.
D3- many think that they do not commit players, which is false. Most D3 are committing players starting the summer just before senior year. If you are going to a competitive softball D3, it is very likely they have committed most of the players they will need long before any tryouts.
If they didn't offer you a roster spot (D3)chances are they did not see what they were looking for at that time, but it is possible as many players going to a D3 schools will be driven by the best school that makes academic and financial sense.


Bluefire kids gets invited by the D1/D2/D3 coaches to tryout for the team. So clearly both of you daddy ball know it all dont know anything.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/17/16 05:26 PM

Please tell the D-1 coach that your DD will walk on because it's no cost to them. They will laugh at you. "Hey coach, my daughter WILL be a walk on for you because she won't cost you anything. So she's a size 8 shoe, Medium shirt and medium pants." You idiot. Please tell me how many girls you know that were walk on's since you seem to be so knowledgeable. You can count them on one hand of less. Not contesting that there is a walk on procedure, questioning the viable chance of a walk on making a team from that perspective. And what does beer have to do with this? That's a weird comment constantly referring to light beer or drinking. Very strange.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/18/16 06:06 AM

Bluefire. You dont get a verbal but you get an invite to tryout.

Exceeding Expectations
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/19/16 07:33 AM

Apparently you have no idea on how the process works. Sure, the 65 year old grandma who always wanted to finish up her college degree and heads back to school still has 4 years of NCAA eligibility left can certainly walk on and tryout. But, lets make one thing clear, unless you are a pitcher and show up throwing 70mph or roll off every soft toss pitch for a home run over the wall by 50 feet, you are better off playing the slots in Vegas if you think you have any chance of making a college roster (with no money). Of course, if you are talking about a low level Division 3 program, or an Intramural or Club Level team then Yes, you totally get the process. Good Luck pumping up your DD telling her, "Travel Ball means nothing honey, I'll teach you how to hit, field, run, pitch, and throw like I did back in High School in 1975 and you can walk on at Alabama next year and show them whatcha got!". Best of Luck with that approach! Let us know how you and your DD make out. Post some videos online with a link so we can see the second coming of Jenny Finch.[/quote]

You take the award of the inebriated imbecile from the island. All schools have open tryouts. Every team will not turn down a player if she is no cost to the team other than uniforms which are all paid for if it a D1 school your dd is going to. Realistically, will a walk on get playing time? You have more chances un consuming 12 light beers in one sitting than your walk on dd get playing time. But hey you'll never know. So blabbering like you really know what your talking about and after your 7th ligjt beer, what ever nonsense comes out of your mouth will sound like the truth. Now twist one open for me, whip out your ipad and act like you know. [/quote]

Ask Southern New Hampshire, just had a walk on start for 3 years
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/20/16 05:24 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Please tell the D-1 coach that your DD will walk on because it's no cost to them. They will laugh at you. "Hey coach, my daughter WILL be a walk on for you because she won't cost you anything. So she's a size 8 shoe, Medium shirt and medium pants." You idiot. Please tell me how many girls you know that were walk on's since you seem to be so knowledgeable. You can count them on one hand of less. Not contesting that there is a walk on procedure, questioning the viable chance of a walk on making a team from that perspective. And what does beer have to do with this? That's a weird comment constantly referring to light beer or drinking. Very strange.



So clueless!

Good luck with that.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/20/16 09:25 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Please tell the D-1 coach that your DD will walk on because it's no cost to them. They will laugh at you. "Hey coach, my daughter WILL be a walk on for you because she won't cost you anything. So she's a size 8 shoe, Medium shirt and medium pants." You idiot. Please tell me how many girls you know that were walk on's since you seem to be so knowledgeable. You can count them on one hand of less. Not contesting that there is a walk on procedure, questioning the viable chance of a walk on making a team from that perspective. And what does beer have to do with this? That's a weird comment constantly referring to light beer or drinking. Very strange.



The reference.to beer is that if you are under the influence of many light beers then the assumption is that you are talking out of the side of your mouth and that you are just a drunken wind bag. But now, since the reference to light beer just flew over your head then it becomes a little more serious. Not only do you have a clue on how the system works, you talk as if you do but in reality you are a typical daddy ball know it all who doesnt know $hit. So keep batting your dd 3rd and play her in the infield because this is it for slamming susie and her windbag daddy ball know it all.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/20/16 12:10 PM

Anybody know how the next greatest thing in travel softball, the Honeychucks, did this past weekend?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/21/16 08:44 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Apparently you have no idea on how the process works. Sure, the 65 year old grandma who always wanted to finish up her college degree and heads back to school still has 4 years of NCAA eligibility left can certainly walk on and tryout. But, lets make one thing clear, unless you are a pitcher and show up throwing 70mph or roll off every soft toss pitch for a home run over the wall by 50 feet, you are better off playing the slots in Vegas if you think you have any chance of making a college roster (with no money). Of course, if you are talking about a low level Division 3 program, or an Intramural or Club Level team then Yes, you totally get the process. Good Luck pumping up your DD telling her, "Travel Ball means nothing honey, I'll teach you how to hit, field, run, pitch, and throw like I did back in High School in 1975 and you can walk on at Alabama next year and show them whatcha got!". Best of Luck with that approach! Let us know how you and your DD make out. Post some videos online with a link so we can see the second coming of Jenny Finch.


You take the award of the inebriated imbecile from the island. All schools have open tryouts. Every team will not turn down a player if she is no cost to the team other than uniforms which are all paid for if it a D1 school your dd is going to. Realistically, will a walk on get playing time? You have more chances un consuming 12 light beers in one sitting than your walk on dd get playing time. But hey you'll never know. So blabbering like you really know what your talking about and after your 7th ligjt beer, what ever nonsense comes out of your mouth will sound like the truth. Now twist one open for me, whip out your ipad and act like you know. [/quote]

Ask Southern New Hampshire, just had a walk on start for 3 years [/quote]

That is an exception, not the rule.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/22/16 08:40 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Please tell the D-1 coach that your DD will walk on because it's no cost to them. They will laugh at you. "Hey coach, my daughter WILL be a walk on for you because she won't cost you anything. So she's a size 8 shoe, Medium shirt and medium pants." You idiot. Please tell me how many girls you know that were walk on's since you seem to be so knowledgeable. You can count them on one hand of less. Not contesting that there is a walk on procedure, questioning the viable chance of a walk on making a team from that perspective. And what does beer have to do with this? That's a weird comment constantly referring to light beer or drinking. Very strange.



The reference.to beer is that if you are under the influence of many light beers then the assumption is that you are talking out of the side of your mouth and that you are just a drunken wind bag. But now, since the reference to light beer just flew over your head then it becomes a little more serious. Not only do you have a clue on how the system works, you talk as if you do but in reality you are a typical daddy ball know it all who doesnt know $hit. So keep batting your dd 3rd and play her in the infield because this is it for slamming susie and her windbag daddy ball know it all.


Not a drunk. Don't drink. I get the Light Beer reference. Not disputing walk-on tryout process. Simply stating that the chances of making a competitive team especially a D-1 team are slim to none. What YOU are stating is that just because a walk-on player doesn't cost you anything that the team WILL take her. And if the kid was that talented, it would not come down to walking on in 99.9% of the cases. By the way, are you capable of posting without making white trash references? Apparently not. Which shows your character. I'm sure you are so sensitive to this walk-on process because your DD is a low level player and you are disappointed that she's not Keilani Ricketts. Truth hurts! Lol
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/22/16 09:11 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Anybody know how the next greatest thing in travel softball, the Honeychucks, did this past weekend?


Who came up with that name?!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/22/16 09:17 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Apparently you have no idea on how the process works. Sure, the 65 year old grandma who always wanted to finish up her college degree and heads back to school still has 4 years of NCAA eligibility left can certainly walk on and tryout. But, lets make one thing clear, unless you are a pitcher and show up throwing 70mph or roll off every soft toss pitch for a home run over the wall by 50 feet, you are better off playing the slots in Vegas if you think you have any chance of making a college roster (with no money). Of course, if you are talking about a low level Division 3 program, or an Intramural or Club Level team then Yes, you totally get the process. Good Luck pumping up your DD telling her, "Travel Ball means nothing honey, I'll teach you how to hit, field, run, pitch, and throw like I did back in High School in 1975 and you can walk on at Alabama next year and show them whatcha got!". Best of Luck with that approach! Let us know how you and your DD make out. Post some videos online with a link so we can see the second coming of Jenny Finch.


You take the award of the inebriated imbecile from the island. All schools have open tryouts. Every team will not turn down a player if she is no cost to the team other than uniforms which are all paid for if it a D1 school your dd is going to. Realistically, will a walk on get playing time? You have more chances un consuming 12 light beers in one sitting than your walk on dd get playing time. But hey you'll never know. So blabbering like you really know what your talking about and after your 7th ligjt beer, what ever nonsense comes out of your mouth will sound like the truth. Now twist one open for me, whip out your ipad and act like you know. [/quote]

Ask Southern New Hampshire, just had a walk on start for 3 years[/quote]





So next time slamming susie is in a camp. Ask the coach if those 20 kids on her roster are all on athletic scholarships. Surely you're only aiming for D1 schools for slamming susie.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/22/16 07:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Please tell the D-1 coach that your DD will walk on because it's no cost to them. They will laugh at you. "Hey coach, my daughter WILL be a walk on for you because she won't cost you anything. So she's a size 8 shoe, Medium shirt and medium pants." You idiot. Please tell me how many girls you know that were walk on's since you seem to be so knowledgeable. You can count them on one hand of less. Not contesting that there is a walk on procedure, questioning the viable chance of a walk on making a team from that perspective. And what does beer have to do with this? That's a weird comment constantly referring to light beer or drinking. Very strange.



The reference.to beer is that if you are under the influence of many light beers then the assumption is that you are talking out of the side of your mouth and that you are just a drunken wind bag. But now, since the reference to light beer just flew over your head then it becomes a little more serious. Not only do you have a clue on how the system works, you talk as if you do but in reality you are a typical daddy ball know it all who doesnt know $hit. So keep batting your dd 3rd and play her in the infield because this is it for slamming susie and her windbag daddy ball know it all.


Not a drunk. Don't drink. I get the Light Beer reference. Not disputing walk-on tryout process. Simply stating that the chances of making a competitive team especially a D-1 team are slim to none. What YOU are stating is that just because a walk-on player doesn't cost you anything that the team WILL take her. And if the kid was that talented, it would not come down to walking on in 99.9% of the cases. By the way, are you capable of posting without making white trash references? Apparently not. Which shows your character. I'm sure you are so sensitive to this walk-on process because your DD is a low level player and you are disappointed that she's not Keilani Ricketts. Truth hurts! Lol


Dd is not going to be a walk on. She got a d1 scholarship on another sport. So thanks for the wrong characterization of my dd. I dont take offense from a daddy ball know it all.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/22/16 08:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Please tell the D-1 coach that your DD will walk on because it's no cost to them. They will laugh at you. "Hey coach, my daughter WILL be a walk on for you because she won't cost you anything. So she's a size 8 shoe, Medium shirt and medium pants." You idiot. Please tell me how many girls you know that were walk on's since you seem to be so knowledgeable. You can count them on one hand of less. Not contesting that there is a walk on procedure, questioning the viable chance of a walk on making a team from that perspective. And what does beer have to do with this? That's a weird comment constantly referring to light beer or drinking. Very strange.



The reference.to beer is that if you are under the influence of many light beers then the assumption is that you are talking out of the side of your mouth and that you are just a drunken wind bag. But now, since the reference to light beer just flew over your head then it becomes a little more serious. Not only do you have a clue on how the system works, you talk as if you do but in reality you are a typical daddy ball know it all who doesnt know $hit. So keep batting your dd 3rd and play her in the infield because this is it for slamming susie and her windbag daddy ball know it all.


Not a drunk. Don't drink. I get the Light Beer reference. Not disputing walk-on tryout process. Simply stating that the chances of making a competitive team especially a D-1 team are slim to none. What YOU are stating is that just because a walk-on player doesn't cost you anything that the team WILL take her. And if the kid was that talented, it would not come down to walking on in 99.9% of the cases. By the way, are you capable of posting without making white trash references? Apparently not. Which shows your character. I'm sure you are so sensitive to this walk-on process because your DD is a low level player and you are disappointed that she's not Keilani Ricketts. Truth hurts! Lol


First you say that i have no clue on hkw the process works. On your second post, you say you are not disputing the walk on process. Apparently it is you who doesn't know how the process works. It is safe to surmise that you have no clue on how this whole college softball recruitment/showcases/tryouts/ etc. Maybe little league is your specialty. Nothing wrong with that. Though if your slamming suzie has an ounce of talent and is willing to put in the hard work to better herself and to progress to a higher softball level then i suggest to you id know and learn the process in a humble way. Nevermind that you know joe blow from work who was a d1 athlete and this is how he did it. Nevermind that you and your co - daddyball know it all have everything figured out from hear say and former athletes that you know. This process is not about you. You had your shot, didnt even make the reserved practice team. This process is about slamming suzie or short stop sandra or whoever your dd is.

I still peg you for a light beer drinker.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/23/16 05:51 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Anybody know how the next greatest thing in travel softball, the Honeychucks, did this past weekend?


LMAO!!!!!!

Who in their right mind would name a team HoneyChucks?!?!?! Oh right, it had to be Nick.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/23/16 06:41 AM

If you knew anything about softball it would make sense to you.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/23/16 07:36 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Apparently you have no idea on how the process works. Sure, the 65 year old grandma who always wanted to finish up her college degree and heads back to school still has 4 years of NCAA eligibility left can certainly walk on and tryout. But, lets make one thing clear, unless you are a pitcher and show up throwing 70mph or roll off every soft toss pitch for a home run over the wall by 50 feet, you are better off playing the slots in Vegas if you think you have any chance of making a college roster (with no money). Of course, if you are talking about a low level Division 3 program, or an Intramural or Club Level team then Yes, you totally get the process. Good Luck pumping up your DD telling her, "Travel Ball means nothing honey, I'll teach you how to hit, field, run, pitch, and throw like I did back in High School in 1975 and you can walk on at Alabama next year and show them whatcha got!". Best of Luck with that approach! Let us know how you and your DD make out. Post some videos online with a link so we can see the second coming of Jenny Finch.


You take the award of the inebriated imbecile from the island. All schools have open tryouts. Every team will not turn down a player if she is no cost to the team other than uniforms which are all paid for if it a D1 school your dd is going to. Realistically, will a walk on get playing time? You have more chances un consuming 12 light beers in one sitting than your walk on dd get playing time. But hey you'll never know. So blabbering like you really know what your talking about and after your 7th ligjt beer, what ever nonsense comes out of your mouth will sound like the truth. Now twist one open for me, whip out your ipad and act like you know.


Ask Southern New Hampshire, just had a walk on start for 3 years[/quote]





So next time slamming susie is in a camp. Ask the coach if those 20 kids on her roster are all on athletic scholarships. Surely you're only aiming for D1 schools for slamming susie. [/quote]

Now I know how Donald Trump feels with the twisted liberal media. So let's address this. NOT saying all 20 girls on a D-1 roster are receiving some sort of scholarship money. It's possible to divy up the scholarship money amongst every player but probably not the case. What is being said is that it's more unlikely then not that sub-par Sussie will make the roster, especially the roster of a D-1 program as a walk on regardless of the financial implications (no cost to team). NOT impossible, but highly unlikely. Get it now?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/24/16 08:30 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Please tell the D-1 coach that your DD will walk on because it's no cost to them. They will laugh at you. "Hey coach, my daughter WILL be a walk on for you because she won't cost you anything. So she's a size 8 shoe, Medium shirt and medium pants." You idiot. Please tell me how many girls you know that were walk on's since you seem to be so knowledgeable. You can count them on one hand of less. Not contesting that there is a walk on procedure, questioning the viable chance of a walk on making a team from that perspective. And what does beer have to do with this? That's a weird comment constantly referring to light beer or drinking. Very strange.



The reference.to beer is that if you are under the influence of many light beers then the assumption is that you are talking out of the side of your mouth and that you are just a drunken wind bag. But now, since the reference to light beer just flew over your head then it becomes a little more serious. Not only do you have a clue on how the system works, you talk as if you do but in reality you are a typical daddy ball know it all who doesnt know $hit. So keep batting your dd 3rd and play her in the infield because this is it for slamming susie and her windbag daddy ball know it all.


Not a drunk. Don't drink. I get the Light Beer reference. Not disputing walk-on tryout process. Simply stating that the chances of making a competitive team especially a D-1 team are slim to none. What YOU are stating is that just because a walk-on player doesn't cost you anything that the team WILL take her. And if the kid was that talented, it would not come down to walking on in 99.9% of the cases. By the way, are you capable of posting without making white trash references? Apparently not. Which shows your character. I'm sure you are so sensitive to this walk-on process because your DD is a low level player and you are disappointed that she's not Keilani Ricketts. Truth hurts! Lol


First you say that i have no clue on hkw the process works. On your second post, you say you are not disputing the walk on process. Apparently it is you who doesn't know how the process works. It is safe to surmise that you have no clue on how this whole college softball recruitment/showcases/tryouts/ etc. Maybe little league is your specialty. Nothing wrong with that. Though if your slamming suzie has an ounce of talent and is willing to put in the hard work to better herself and to progress to a higher softball level then i suggest to you id know and learn the process in a humble way. Nevermind that you know joe blow from work who was a d1 athlete and this is how he did it. Nevermind that you and your co - daddyball know it all have everything figured out from hear say and former athletes that you know. This process is not about you. You had your shot, didnt even make the reserved practice team. This process is about slamming suzie or short stop sandra or whoever your dd is.

I still peg you for a light beer drinker.


What I got out of this post is absolutely nothing. Just some rambling. No points made whatsoever. Little League reference is off key since there have been multiple informative posts, so you are wrong insinuating that. Also sub-par Susie can put all the work in the world in. If she shows up to a competitive D-1 program as a walk on (which anyone can do) with the sense of entitlement because she is "willing to put the hard work in to better herself", she will probably be very disappointed at the end result. The coach is "willing to put the hard work in to better THE TEAM" and a walk on kid is most likely not in that scenario. The reference about knowing others who have gone through the process being belittled is also confusing. Are you saying that you never reference anything when you are taking on a task that you are not well informed about? Are you saying that you don't take advice from anyone? Are you saying that you have not needed anyone's opinion on anything that you have done in your life even though they may be knowledgeable about that specific topic? That's what I see there. An opinionated bigot. Posts like yours bring me back to my Psych Degree days at my college. We would spend weeks on rants such as yours. And I thank you for that. Now carry on as Inlook forward to your next ambiguous post. Oh and no beer for me either.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/26/16 03:52 AM


What I got out of this post is absolutely nothing. Just some rambling. No points made whatsoever. Little League reference is off key since there have been multiple informative posts, so you are wrong insinuating that. Also sub-par Susie can put all the work in the world in. If she shows up to a competitive D-1 program as a walk on (which anyone can do) with the sense of entitlement because she is "willing to put the hard work in to better herself", she will probably be very disappointed at the end result. The coach is "willing to put the hard work in to better THE TEAM" and a walk on kid is most likely not in that scenario. The reference about knowing others who have gone through the process being belittled is also confusing. Are you saying that you never reference anything when you are taking on a task that you are not well informed about? Are you saying that you don't take advice from anyone? Are you saying that you have not needed anyone's opinion on anything that you have done in your life even though they may be knowledgeable about that specific topic? That's what I see there. An opinionated bigot. Posts like yours bring me back to my Psych Degree days at my college. We would spend weeks on rants such as yours. And I thank you for that. Now carry on as Inlook forward to your next ambiguous post. Oh and no beer for me either.




Seems like you have already predetermined your slamming susies future in the sport of softball. Softening the blow so to speak. Seems you have accepted her faith already. Very supportive ! Great way to use your psych degree.


No beer just lithium.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/26/16 03:53 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
If you knew anything about softball it would make sense to you.



Yeah! go to the Psych forum.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/26/16 12:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous

What I got out of this post is absolutely nothing. Just some rambling. No points made whatsoever. Little League reference is off key since there have been multiple informative posts, so you are wrong insinuating that. Also sub-par Susie can put all the work in the world in. If she shows up to a competitive D-1 program as a walk on (which anyone can do) with the sense of entitlement because she is "willing to put the hard work in to better herself", she will probably be very disappointed at the end result. The coach is "willing to put the hard work in to better THE TEAM" and a walk on kid is most likely not in that scenario. The reference about knowing others who have gone through the process being belittled is also confusing. Are you saying that you never reference anything when you are taking on a task that you are not well informed about? Are you saying that you don't take advice from anyone? Are you saying that you have not needed anyone's opinion on anything that you have done in your life even though they may be knowledgeable about that specific topic? That's what I see there. An opinionated bigot. Posts like yours bring me back to my Psych Degree days at my college. We would spend weeks on rants such as yours. And I thank you for that. Now carry on as Inlook forward to your next ambiguous post. Oh and no beer for me either.




Seems like you have already predetermined your slamming susies future in the sport of softball. Softening the blow so to speak. Seems you have accepted her faith already. Very supportive ! Great way to use your psych degree.


No beer just lithium.


Uhhh no just responding to the question. Has nothing to do with DD. Futile attempt at deflecting the question? No blow to soften or faith to accept. Very Supportive? How did this turn into a support group conversation?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/26/16 06:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous

What I got out of this post is absolutely nothing. Just some rambling. No points made whatsoever. Little League reference is off key since there have been multiple informative posts, so you are wrong insinuating that. Also sub-par Susie can put all the work in the world in. If she shows up to a competitive D-1 program as a walk on (which anyone can do) with the sense of entitlement because she is "willing to put the hard work in to better herself", she will probably be very disappointed at the end result. The coach is "willing to put the hard work in to better THE TEAM" and a walk on kid is most likely not in that scenario. The reference about knowing others who have gone through the process being belittled is also confusing. Are you saying that you never reference anything when you are taking on a task that you are not well informed about? Are you saying that you don't take advice from anyone? Are you saying that you have not needed anyone's opinion on anything that you have done in your life even though they may be knowledgeable about that specific topic? That's what I see there. An opinionated bigot. Posts like yours bring me back to my Psych Degree days at my college. We would spend weeks on rants such as yours. And I thank you for that. Now carry on as Inlook forward to your next ambiguous post. Oh and no beer for me either.




Seems like you have already predetermined your slamming susies future in the sport of softball. Softening the blow so to speak. Seems you have accepted her faith already. Very supportive ! Great way to use your psych degree.


No beer just lithium.


Uhhh no just responding to the question. Has nothing to do with DD. Futile attempt at deflecting the question? No blow to soften or faith to accept. Very Supportive? How did this turn into a support group conversation?



Because you are in denial and need help.

So find it elsewhere.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 09/27/16 01:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous

What I got out of this post is absolutely nothing. Just some rambling. No points made whatsoever. Little League reference is off key since there have been multiple informative posts, so you are wrong insinuating that. Also sub-par Susie can put all the work in the world in. If she shows up to a competitive D-1 program as a walk on (which anyone can do) with the sense of entitlement because she is "willing to put the hard work in to better herself", she will probably be very disappointed at the end result. The coach is "willing to put the hard work in to better THE TEAM" and a walk on kid is most likely not in that scenario. The reference about knowing others who have gone through the process being belittled is also confusing. Are you saying that you never reference anything when you are taking on a task that you are not well informed about? Are you saying that you don't take advice from anyone? Are you saying that you have not needed anyone's opinion on anything that you have done in your life even though they may be knowledgeable about that specific topic? That's what I see there. An opinionated bigot. Posts like yours bring me back to my Psych Degree days at my college. We would spend weeks on rants such as yours. And I thank you for that. Now carry on as Inlook forward to your next ambiguous post. Oh and no beer for me either.




Seems like you have already predetermined your slamming susies future in the sport of softball. Softening the blow so to speak. Seems you have accepted her faith already. Very supportive ! Great way to use your psych degree.


No beer just lithium.


Uhhh no just responding to the question. Has nothing to do with DD. Futile attempt at deflecting the question? No blow to soften or faith to accept. Very Supportive? How did this turn into a support group conversation?


Behold. A superior human being is among us.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/12/16 05:37 PM

Anyone bring their DD to the Stony Brook camp on Columbus Day? Thoughts?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/13/16 05:04 AM

Yes. Was very pleased. Definatley got my money worth. Not only did the kids meet coaches but they actually learned stuff.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/13/16 06:37 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Anyone bring their DD to the Stony Brook camp on Columbus Day? Thoughts?

another money maker
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/13/16 07:02 AM

SB does a nice job of it.

Reviewing the basics was only about an hour. Which is good.


I liked the fact that during the fielding portion they actually HIT the ball to the girls.

2 sep soft toss stations which is also smart.

Good mix of schools.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/13/16 03:11 PM

My daughter was at the stonybrook clinic. Every year more players show up. This is our 4th year going and it is all ways money well spent. There was about 125 players for different teams. A lot of TLI & Sudden Impact girls. Very well run. would strongly suggest going next year when it comes around again.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/14/16 09:53 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Anyone bring their DD to the Stony Brook camp on Columbus Day? Thoughts?

another money maker


Please expand. Are you are saying there wasn't anything taught? Coaches didn't teach skills? Players didn't learn? Players didn't learn what those coaches coaching styles are?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/14/16 09:54 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Yes. Was very pleased. Definatley got my money worth. Not only did the kids meet coaches but they actually learned stuff.


My DD felt that way too. She loved it. First time they actually worked on base running and agility. Great job coaches.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/14/16 05:56 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
My daughter was at the stonybrook clinic. Every year more players show up. This is our 4th year going and it is all ways money well spent. There was about 125 players for different teams. A lot of TLI & Sudden Impact girls. Very well run. would strongly suggest going next year when it comes around again.


fools
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/15/16 05:15 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
My daughter was at the stonybrook clinic. Every year more players show up. This is our 4th year going and it is all ways money well spent. There was about 125 players for different teams. A lot of TLI & Sudden Impact girls. Very well run. would strongly suggest going next year when it comes around again.


fools


How about backing your thoughts up.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/15/16 06:51 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
SB does a nice job of it.

Reviewing the basics was only about an hour. Which is good.


I liked the fact that during the fielding portion they actually HIT the ball to the girls.

2 sep soft toss stations which is also smart.

Good mix of schools.




What schools were there?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/17/16 07:43 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
SB does a nice job of it.

Reviewing the basics was only about an hour. Which is good.


I liked the fact that during the fielding portion they actually HIT the ball to the girls.

2 sep soft toss stations which is also smart.

Good mix of schools.




What schools were there?


Stony Brook of course, Queens College, Cortland, Oswego, Seton Hall, Post,Holy Cross, Columbia, St Johns, Syracuse,and a couple of more I don't remember. I do know all but one of the coaches were female.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/18/16 10:19 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
SB does a nice job of it.

Reviewing the basics was only about an hour. Which is good.


I liked the fact that during the fielding portion they actually HIT the ball to the girls.

2 sep soft toss stations which is also smart.

Good mix of schools.




What schools were there?


Stony Brook of course, Queens College, Cortland, Oswego, Seton Hall, Post,Holy Cross, Columbia, St Johns, Syracuse,and a couple of more I don't remember. I do know all but one of the coaches were female.
Fairfield and LUI also
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/19/16 12:35 PM


College Coaches Clinic hosted by Sudden Impact LI
Date of Clinic: November 27, 2016 Facility Address: 657 Garden Avenue Mt Vernon, NY 10550
College Coaches Attending:
Caldwell University D2, Molloy College D2, Adelphi University D2, Scranton University D3,New York University D3, Manhattan College D1, St. Joseph's Long Island D3

The cost is FREE

for more info: go to: www.SuddenImpactli.com
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/19/16 04:57 PM

It's $195. Free to look at the link. What a bait and switch.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/19/16 09:33 PM

195 is free????????????
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/20/16 04:56 AM

The cost is FREE? $200 doesn't sound free.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/20/16 07:52 AM

Really???
Why write that if it's not the case?

It's 200 dollars ( quick look, I may be off) but certainly not free.

Although good mix of schools, I think that the location is the reason you are not getting the turnout you wanted, and had to write "free" for some quick hits on your web site.

Should have been on stage last night as well.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/20/16 10:54 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous

College Coaches Clinic hosted by Sudden Impact LI
Date of Clinic: November 27, 2016 Facility Address: 657 Garden Avenue Mt Vernon, NY 10550
College Coaches Attending:
Caldwell University D2, Molloy College D2, Adelphi University D2, Scranton University D3,New York University D3, Manhattan College D1, St. Joseph's Long Island D3

The cost is FREE

for more info: go to: www.SuddenImpactli.com


Ummmm, 195$ is free????
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/21/16 09:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous

College Coaches Clinic hosted by Sudden Impact LI
Date of Clinic: November 27, 2016 Facility Address: 657 Garden Avenue Mt Vernon, NY 10550
College Coaches Attending:
Caldwell University D2, Molloy College D2, Adelphi University D2, Scranton University D3,New York University D3, Manhattan College D1, St. Joseph's Long Island D3

The cost is FREE

for more info: go to: www.SuddenImpactli.com


Ummmm, 195$ is free????



Free download LOL.


laughable
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/23/16 09:03 PM

Actually Thunder is now with NX Generation athletics. I would recommend themm, they have 8 U
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/25/16 05:33 AM

Next gen. They can give two craps about softball. I guess they found a new organization to siphon money from. Jokes on you.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 10/25/16 01:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Actually Thunder is now with NX Generation athletics. I would recommend themm, they have 8 U



Of course you would recommend them.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/01/16 03:21 PM

Way to go Long Island softball. Losing to two out of town teams in the 12U and 14U divisions.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/03/16 05:34 PM

Which tournament?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/04/16 08:28 AM

Great Showing by the Long Island Teams at the Diamond 9 Classic in Orlando, Florida last weekend. 1 win and 11 loses combined. The Long Island Bandits went 1-5 and Team Long Island Gold went 0-6. What happened to these once known powerhouse teams?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/05/16 12:20 AM

Sounds like a crush parent. There always quick to run there mouths
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/06/16 09:23 PM

Did the heat just play 16u this weekend ? What a joke
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/07/16 04:38 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Sounds like a crush parent. There always quick to run there mouths


Just Win Baby!

Winning tradition since 2004.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/07/16 09:29 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Great Showing by the Long Island Teams at the Diamond 9 Classic in Orlando, Florida last weekend. 1 win and 11 loses combined. The Long Island Bandits went 1-5 and Team Long Island Gold went 0-6. What happened to these once known powerhouse teams?


Just love to see posts like this, it really goes to show you how misunderstood softball is at the top end, especially when it comes to showcasing and recruiting. You need to understand that for showcase teams their record does not really matter. College coaches come to see individual players and not a specific team. They do not care what your record is and as a coach you do not coach to win in showcases but coach to expose players. A good example is that player substitutions happen constantly and they are rarely communicated to the other team and in fact I have seen a player bat, back several times in the same inning to allow a college coach who might have arrived late to see that player before the game ends.

Now onto Diamond 9, have you ever been there? I have several years back with TLI. Understand that there are over 100 teams that attend from across the country. This event is always held in early November because by then all college Fall programs have just about ended and the college coaches can then travel. The competition ranges from the best gold programs to just average teams.

The Tournament director’s primary job is to ensure that the schedule he creates ensures that teams playing each other are of a similar level of play. A college coach might only get to see a specific player just once during that weekend, so the TD needs to make sure that the teams playing each other are at similar abilities. Hence why you normally never see run rule games at the showcase level, b/c if that occurs then the TD failed the College Coach as well as all the players on both teams. Not a good recipe for success for your future showcases.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/07/16 09:53 AM

The TLI 2020 team went 5-1 at the D9.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/07/16 01:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Great Showing by the Long Island Teams at the Diamond 9 Classic in Orlando, Florida last weekend. 1 win and 11 loses combined. The Long Island Bandits went 1-5 and Team Long Island Gold went 0-6. What happened to these once known powerhouse teams?


Sounds like they played a lot of teams that were better than they are.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/08/16 12:51 AM

TLI 2020 went 5-1-1
Playing top level teams.
TLI gold graduated 10 players last year, give it some time
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/08/16 01:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Great Showing by the Long Island Teams at the Diamond 9 Classic in Orlando, Florida last weekend. 1 win and 11 loses combined. The Long Island Bandits went 1-5 and Team Long Island Gold went 0-6. What happened to these once known powerhouse teams?


I believe both teams are rebuilding and have young players. Probably not the best decision to go south at this stage. Hopefully next year will be better
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/08/16 10:39 PM

If you look at the scores, they were all low-scoring, close games. When Gold gets their hitting figured out they will be back on top.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/09/16 08:19 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
The TLI 2020 team went 5-1 at the D9.


That team has been one of the best LI has seen, they have really represented LI well.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/09/16 10:34 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Great Showing by the Long Island Teams at the Diamond 9 Classic in Orlando, Florida last weekend. 1 win and 11 loses combined. The Long Island Bandits went 1-5 and Team Long Island Gold went 0-6. What happened to these once known powerhouse teams?



Island fastpitch has a better turnout of college coaches.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/09/16 10:36 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Great Showing by the Long Island Teams at the Diamond 9 Classic in Orlando, Florida last weekend. 1 win and 11 loses combined. The Long Island Bandits went 1-5 and Team Long Island Gold went 0-6. What happened to these once known powerhouse teams?


There is a storm coming.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/09/16 02:22 PM

Team Long Island 2020 went 5-1-1. The competition was excellent, the game they lost was 3-2 in the bottom of the last inning to a team from California. That was their ONLY loss, check the Facebook page before you spew fallacies. As for TLI gold, they graduated more than half of their players, and they have taken on many new kids who need time to develop to reach their potential- and I'm sure they will. #dontspreadlies
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/09/16 07:30 PM

So who signed a NLI? Which school?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/10/16 10:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
TLI 2020 went 5-1-1
Playing top level teams.
TLI gold graduated 10 players last year, give it some time


TLI now draws beyond the borders of LI. So while we are on a LI travel board, we cannot be too interested about the exploits of the 02 or 2020 team when 1/3 of its roster today doesn't even live on LI. Great for you but this board is dedicated to LI and the 8 kids or so on that team from LI - it's fantastic for them I'm sure of that. But it's clearly a misrepresentation on this board that is LI focused. But who knows maybe August will yield another kid from NJ or CT or upstate or even Texas, that you can add to Team 'Long Island' and knock off the next kid from LI.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/11/16 03:49 PM

Heard from a reliable source that the crush futures coach was saying that he would like to see his 01 team play TLI 2020 team in the spring. Was bragging that they beat them the last time they played and he knows they will again.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/11/16 04:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
So who signed a NLI? Which school?


Um, let me guess...your daughter....Congrats!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/11/16 05:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
So who signed a NLI? Which school?
[quote=Ano

Lots of girls! - team websites have all the info
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/11/16 10:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
TLI 2020 went 5-1-1
Playing top level teams.
TLI gold graduated 10 players last year, give it some time


TLI now draws beyond the borders of LI. So while we are on a LI travel board, we cannot be too interested about the exploits of the 02 or 2020 team when 1/3 of its roster today doesn't even live on LI. Great for you but this board is dedicated to LI and the 8 kids or so on that team from LI - it's fantastic for them I'm sure of that. But it's clearly a misrepresentation on this board that is LI focused. But who knows maybe August will yield another kid from NJ or CT or upstate or even Texas, that you can add to Team 'Long Island' and knock off the next kid from LI.



Definitely a dumb statement.


"But it's clearly a misrepresentation on this board that is LI focused." _ Stick with the little league district to guarantee everyone is from LI.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/11/16 10:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
TLI 2020 went 5-1-1
Playing top level teams.
TLI gold graduated 10 players last year, give it some time


TLI now draws beyond the borders of LI. So while we are on a LI travel board, we cannot be too interested about the exploits of the 02 or 2020 team when 1/3 of its roster today doesn't even live on LI. Great for you but this board is dedicated to LI and the 8 kids or so on that team from LI - it's fantastic for them I'm sure of that. But it's clearly a misrepresentation on this board that is LI focused. But who knows maybe August will yield another kid from NJ or CT or upstate or even Texas, that you can add to Team 'Long Island' and knock off the next kid from LI.



First of all, travel softball teams such as RI Thunder and Birmingham Thunderbolts and Jersey Intensity have players on their roster that are not from Rhode Island, Alabama or New Jersey, respectively. Keeping a "brand name" can be more important than where a player lives or how far a parent chooses to drive (or fly) to be part of a travel team.

Second, Angel's 99 team is a super successful group of players (doesn't matter if they live in CT or NJ). Our '02 team would be honored to have similar success. Not sure it's a "misrepresentation."
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/12/16 06:32 AM

Your an idiot. I guess your one of those Long Island teams that don't want to challenge or test themselves.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/13/16 09:24 AM

What is going on with the Crush organization. I'm looking for a new team for my daughter now that the fall season is over. I've been asking around and everyone I speak too has said stay far away. Some of the comments were the coaches are crazy, the guy that runs the crush is a crook, and more girls are leaving than coming. Thoughts?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/13/16 12:40 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Heard from a reliable source that the crush futures coach was saying that he would like to see his 01 team play TLI 2020 team in the spring. Was bragging that they beat them the last time they played and he knows they will again.



Winning tradition since 2004.

Just win baby!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/13/16 07:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Team Long Island 2020 went 5-1-1. The competition was excellent, the game they lost was 3-2 in the bottom of the last inning to a team from California. That was their ONLY loss, check the Facebook page before you spew fallacies. As for TLI gold, they graduated more than half of their players, and they have taken on many new kids who need time to develop to reach their potential- and I'm sure they will. #dontspreadlies


that is true. their roster took a big hit needed to do some patchwork and build a roster with some available players. they will take a hit and rebound.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/14/16 07:25 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What is going on with the Crush organization. I'm looking for a new team for my daughter now that the fall season is over. I've been asking around and everyone I speak too has said stay far away. Some of the comments were the coaches are crazy, the guy that runs the crush is a crook, and more girls are leaving than coming. Thoughts?


Are you really asking for advice about a team on this site? We joined this past fall and there have been no issues so far, I can only speak for the team my daughter is on. My guess is just like other orgs there are good and bad coaches/teams . Take this site as a guide, not gospel, too many mis-guided very angry people on here.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/14/16 08:17 AM

Steer clear of Crush. Go to any LI Tournament and tell any coach that you were thinking of joining Crush and listen to what they have to say. It's winning at the expense of any girl who gets in their way. No morals and if you make one mistake your going to ride the bench.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/14/16 08:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What is going on with the Crush organization. I'm looking for a new team for my daughter now that the fall season is over. I've been asking around and everyone I speak too has said stay far away. Some of the comments were the coaches are crazy, the guy that runs the crush is a crook, and more girls are leaving than coming. Thoughts?


Are you really asking for advice about a team on this site? We joined this past fall and there have been no issues so far, I can only speak for the team my daughter is on. My guess is just like other orgs there are good and bad coaches/teams . Take this site as a guide, not gospel, too many mis-guided very angry people on here.


Who wouldn't want to be part of the winning tradition since 2004.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/14/16 10:01 PM

Don't know much about Crush. Played against them years ago, nothing out of the ordinary. Didn't witness crazy parents just frustrated coaches at times, nothing over the top. Like many teams, Crush players join and leave. Spoke to two ex-players' parents, they said it wasn't for them. Training was below average. However, their Gold team seems to have yielded a good amount of college commitments.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/15/16 06:05 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Steer clear of Crush. Go to any LI Tournament and tell any coach that you were thinking of joining Crush and listen to what they have to say. It's winning at the expense of any girl who gets in their way. No morals and if you make one mistake your going to ride the bench.




Just not true
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/17/16 07:00 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Steer clear of Crush. Go to any LI Tournament and tell any coach that you were thinking of joining Crush and listen to what they have to say. It's winning at the expense of any girl who gets in their way. No morals and if you make one mistake your going to ride the bench.




Just not true


Oh yes it is true.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/17/16 01:32 PM

I want all the coaches that enter a USSSA tourney on long Island to call the headquarters of USSSA and complain about the director using plastic synthetic softballs. We pay the most for USSSA tourneys on Long Island and the least the director can do is let the girls play with real softballs.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/17/16 03:17 PM

FOR SALE.
1 crush helmet
1 crush bag
4 uniform tops.
1 crush car sticker
All items are in great condition. They are barely worn due to the fact we never made it out of the first game on Sunday. If you need more items I know plenty of girls that would be willing to part with the stuff due to the fact that so many girls have came and left over the years.
Call
1-800-Just-win-baby
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/17/16 09:44 PM

at the showcase and gold level the teams win loss record means absolutely nothing. The purpose is to develop and fine tune the players and get them the exposure they need to play after high school ends.
Winning is great but its secondary on most of those type of teams.

Most of the time college coaches are paying more attention to the players during warm ups than they are during the games played.

I love how people post such stupid crap on this board that have no clue about the world of upper level sports programs work.

Making comments about a teams win/loss record
it makes me laugh at least
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/18/16 02:29 PM

Can you tell me who the president/owner of the crush org. is buddy?
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What is going on with the Crush organization. I'm looking for a new team for my daughter now that the fall season is over. I've been asking around and everyone I speak too has said stay far away. Some of the comments were the coaches are crazy, the guy that runs the crush is a crook, and more girls are leaving than coming. Thoughts?


Are you really asking for advice about a team on this site? We joined this past fall and there have been no issues so far, I can only speak for the team my daughter is on. My guess is just like other orgs there are good and bad coaches/teams . Take this site as a guide, not gospel, too many mis-guided very angry people on here.


Who wouldn't want to be part of the winning tradition since 2004.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/20/16 11:00 PM

Once upon a time their was a man that lived in the hills. He was a bad man, some might call him a criminal. He took joy in stealing peoples money and yelling at little girls. He always thought that he was smarter than everyone else and he could convince people to do things because he had a silver tongue. But one day........

Finish the story.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/21/16 06:52 AM

What do you think about a team who's coach tells you that you can't guest on other teams because they don't want you to leave but brings in guest players to practice all the time?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/21/16 08:40 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
FOR SALE.
1 crush helmet
1 crush bag
4 uniform tops.
1 crush car sticker
All items are in great condition. They are barely worn due to the fact we never made it out of the first game on Sunday. If you need more items I know plenty of girls that would be willing to part with the stuff due to the fact that so many girls have came and left over the years.
Call
1-800-Just-win-baby


I guess you do not want any part of their "winning tradition since 2004" ?
At least hold on to the sticker.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/21/16 12:08 PM

Guy who runs usssa on long Island needs to stop using those cheap balls to save a few dollars
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/21/16 03:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
at the showcase and gold level the teams win loss record means absolutely nothing. The purpose is to develop and fine tune the players and get them the exposure they need to play after high school ends.
Winning is great but its secondary on most of those type of teams.

Most of the time college coaches are paying more attention to the players during warm ups than they are during the games played.

I love how people post such stupid crap on this board that have no clue about the world of upper level sports programs work.

Making comments about a teams win/loss record
it makes me laugh at least


It's too bad they took the competition out of the game for them. College coaches want the girls to be able to compete for their positions and compete on the field. That has been lost with all of the "showcases" they play in. All they want to do is show off their skills which they need to do but it would be nice if they played under pressure to play to win. It's all about competing!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/22/16 11:20 PM

What do you expect from usssa on long Island, he doesn't care about softball, or the girls, or the umpires..... It's a business to him. I remember when tournaments were run by the organizations, ie,bandits, riptide, Li express, and all the money made went back to the teams, Long Island, CT, Jersey are all just the guys that can get the fields, they get to steal all your cash.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/23/16 09:33 PM

To all the parents and coaches that read this. Remember this weekend how lucky we all are that our children are able to play a sport that they love. That they are healthy and are not hanging out with the wrong crowd. I was just talking to another parent who like most aren't happy where they are and is looking for a organizations, it is very simple look at the web site and see how many girls are verbal and look at when they graduate. Call that organization and find out when they practice go and see if it is what you are looking for, so when August tryouts come the coach and the player and parents are on the same page. Plain and simple. Again be thankful.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/25/16 05:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What do you think about a team who's coach tells you that you can't guest on other teams because they don't want you to leave but brings in guest players to practice all the time?


I don't think the girls sign an exclusive contract. I can see he/she saying that if it conflicts with her team's schedule but if it's an off weekend then they are free to do what they please. I would leave that coach as possible. He/she does not have the kids best interest in mind.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/25/16 10:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Once upon a time their was a man that lived in the hills. He was a bad man, some might call him a criminal. He took joy in stealing peoples money and yelling at little girls. He always thought that he was smarter than everyone else and he could convince people to do things because he had a silver tongue. But one day........

Finish the story.


The one and only Mr Crush himself MD!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/25/16 10:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What do you think about a team who's coach tells you that you can't guest on other teams because they don't want you to leave but brings in guest players to practice all the time?


I ask....why do you even want to stay? They obviously are looking to replace your DD's on the roster with the next best thing. Can you say 'flavor of the month' club!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/25/16 11:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Once upon a time their was a man that lived in the hills. He was a bad man, some might call him a criminal. He took joy in stealing peoples money and yelling at little girls. He always thought that he was smarter than everyone else and he could convince people to do things because he had a silver tongue. But one day........

Finish the story.

All the people of long island were rid of the spell and saw the man that lived in the hills for who he was. An aggrogant, self righteous, conceded fraud who all these years knew nothing about softball. His lies and deceitful words no longer worked on the people of Long Island. And so he crawled back into the hole from whence he came never to be seen again and the Long Island softball was better for it.
The End
Just win baby!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/26/16 06:45 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Once upon a time their was a man that lived in the hills. He was a bad man, some might call him a criminal. He took joy in stealing peoples money and yelling at little girls. He always thought that he was smarter than everyone else and he could convince people to do things because he had a silver tongue. But one day........

Finish the story.


"He found a girlfriend in Florida and gave up everything in his life including his team mid season?"
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/26/16 05:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What do you think about a team who's coach tells you that you can't guest on other teams because they don't want you to leave but brings in guest players to practice all the time?


Sounds like something the Crush Org would do!

JWB!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/29/16 05:30 AM

Good recruiting info: http://www.scholarshipstats.com/softball.htm
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 11/30/16 11:29 AM

If you're not happy with the coaches rules, leave. If your daughter is not getting enough at bats or playing time then I would say find a new team. Anyone that's worried about guest players practicing with a team than you should look at your daughters skill. Most parents think their daughter is better then the others but belive me, if your daughter is that good the coach will play ger.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/01/16 12:31 PM

I think that's the sign of a great coach. You may not agree, but a coaches job is to train his existing players and always keep the door open for new players to come in and make the team better. The question you should be asking yourself, is the team your daughter playing on a a good fit for your daughter or is she in over her head. It sounds like she gets a lack of playing time and you're not happy. I would suggest you bringing her someplace where she can be a starter or just accept the fact that she is not up to the level to play on that team full time. Maybe a local recreataional team may be a better fit for her then a team like Blue Fire, TLI, Crush, Pride, Express or any other top Long Island team. Maybe the Honeychucks LOL.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/09/16 11:02 PM

Happy with Thunder
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/13/16 08:45 AM

What happen to Thunder. All the girls left.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/18/16 11:56 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What happen to Thunder. All the girls left.


What happened? Nothing happened. Ever at thunder. People realize that it is the ultimate daddy ball experience and need to move on to develop and get better. But hey if your looking for a play date for your DD and a place where parents can mingle and set up dinner dates, it's the designation spot!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/19/16 11:58 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What happen to Thunder. All the girls left.


The parents and players grew tired of non qualified coaches yelling and screaming at the kids all the time.
Players dont want to be yelled at. They want to play in a positive setting that challenges them.

The saddest part about LI Softball is there is a very very small handful of qualified coaches out here that actually know how to teach, instruct, and coach you girls in softball.

Most of the coaching staffs are grossly unskilled in these areas
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/21/16 07:35 PM

When ever things get boring I check out this site. Listen up Parents you get what you pay for, like anything else in life. This is not hard, but you all make it hard. Look at the organizations that have been around for 15 to 20 years+. There is a reason, They are well coached and have great connections when it comes to getting your DD in front of coaches. Keep playing on the island for the Chiefs, Rebels, Thunder, After shock, Bandits, Surge, ducks, crush, and all the other mom and pop teams that only play in USSSA on the island. I understand that living on Long Island cost a lot and that you can't travel every weekend or have every tournament off the island. So if you choose to play for what ever reason, Money or just your DD is not as good as you think she is, you will get coaches that only know the basics of how the game is played. You made your bed, so you must sleep in it. Plain and simply look at Team Long Island, Long Island Express, Sudden Impact, Long Island Chargers and look up the 18U Gold teams and see who is getting Players into College. It is not any of the Teams that only play on the Island. So before you reply, look in the mirror and ask yourself who fault is it that your DD is not happy or not being trained properly. The answered should be starring you in the face. Happy Holidays to all.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/21/16 11:18 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What happen to Thunder. All the girls left.


The parents and players grew tired of non qualified coaches yelling and screaming at the kids all the time.
Players dont want to be yelled at. They want to play in a positive setting that challenges them.

The saddest part about LI Softball is there is a very very small handful of qualified coaches out here that actually know how to teach, instruct, and coach you girls in softball.

Most of the coaching staffs are grossly unskilled in these areas


That's because if a Coach is not playing DD, her Dad will leave and form his own travel team. Sounds familiar? Now Dad becomes a coach or a manager, with the sole purpose of getting significant playing time for DD and getting a guaranteed infield position!!!!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/22/16 07:45 PM

You are so correct. TLI and Nitro are the only two organizations that actually get it. EverY coach in those organization train and teach the right way under the supervision of Angel and Anthony. The TLI coaches are second to none ok the island and it shows in the suceed and scholarships.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/22/16 07:55 PM

What is Top Prospects and how do you get into it? I was told its one of the top showcase events in Long Island. My daughter plays on a LI Crush and the coaches don't talk highly of Top prospects and I don't know why but if it's that good I would love to see her get into it. Can someone send me info or contact info on who to call?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/23/16 04:40 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What is Top Prospects and how do you get into it? I was told its one of the top showcase events in Long Island. My daughter plays on a LI Crush and the coaches don't talk highly of Top prospects and I don't know why but if it's that good I would love to see her get into it. Can someone send me info or contact info on who to call?



The only reason those highly capable and highly knowledgeable crush coaches are talking bad about an organization is that their own dds couldnt get invited to Top Prospects.

Maybe those angry and disgruntled coaches could call their group "THE REAL TOP PROSPECTS". or "DADDY'S TOP PROSPECTS".

What a surprise, crush coaches not talking highly of anyone but themselves. Hey Parent. the writing is on the wall. your dd is not going to learn anything with the crush.

Just win baby.

winning tradition since 2004.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/23/16 04:44 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
You are so correct. TLI and Nitro are the only two organizations that actually get it. EverY coach in those organization train and teach the right way under the supervision of Angel and Anthony. The TLI coaches are second to none ok the island and it shows in the suceed and scholarships.


Nitro?!?! LOL!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/23/16 09:13 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What is Top Prospects and how do you get into it? I was told its one of the top showcase events in Long Island. My daughter plays on a LI Crush and the coaches don't talk highly of Top prospects and I don't know why but if it's that good I would love to see her get into it. Can someone send me info or contact info on who to call?
I

Crush coaches?! Thats like an oxymoron. Dadddy ballers more likely.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/23/16 09:46 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
You are so correct. TLI and Nitro are the only two organizations that actually get it. EverY coach in those organization train and teach the right way under the supervision of Angel and Anthony. The TLI coaches are second to none ok the island and it shows in the suceed and scholarships.


There are several coaches in both organizations who are just not good coaches, so much overcoaching, the players can't learn if you are coaching every minute, saying the same things
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/23/16 12:07 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
When ever things get boring I check out this site. Listen up Parents you get what you pay for, like anything else in life. This is not hard, but you all make it hard. Look at the organizations that have been around for 15 to 20 years+. There is a reason, They are well coached and have great connections when it comes to getting your DD in front of coaches. Keep playing on the island for the Chiefs, Rebels, Thunder, After shock, Bandits, Surge, ducks, crush, and all the other mom and pop teams that only play in USSSA on the island. I understand that living on Long Island cost a lot and that you can't travel every weekend or have every tournament off the island. So if you choose to play for what ever reason, Money or just your DD is not as good as you think she is, you will get coaches that only know the basics of how the game is played. You made your bed, so you must sleep in it. Plain and simply look at Team Long Island, Long Island Express, Sudden Impact, Long Island Chargers and look up the 18U Gold teams and see who is getting Players into College. It is not any of the Teams that only play on the Island. So before you reply, look in the mirror and ask yourself who fault is it that your DD is not happy or not being trained properly. The answered should be starring you in the face. Happy Holidays to all.


Putting Bandits and ducks on that LI list is wrong. I see them off the island often. RI, TNT, Upstate NY, Jersey.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/23/16 02:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What is Top Prospects and how do you get into it? I was told its one of the top showcase events in Long Island. My daughter plays on a LI Crush and the coaches don't talk highly of Top prospects and I don't know why but if it's that good I would love to see her get into it. Can someone send me info or contact info on who to call?


Talk about throwing a lob pitch to kill crush, next time don't be so obvious about your dislike for Crush.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/24/16 01:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What is Top Prospects and how do you get into it? I was told its one of the top showcase events in Long Island. My daughter plays on a LI Crush and the coaches don't talk highly of Top prospects and I don't know why but if it's that good I would love to see her get into it. Can someone send me info or contact info on who to call?


Wow! That comes from the Top down (Mike & Terry). So ask them what they don't like about it and when they stumble on their words you can then make your own decision. The Crush Org just plain and simple hates TLI because they can't compete with them in every aspect of their organization. So, what's not to like? 30 plus College Coaches sitting along the side lines watching YOUR DD perform in different drills. Angel invites girls from all over (not just TLI like haters will say). He tries to invite the best players around as to not waste the valuable time of the college coaches watching sub par talent. Of course some won't be invited and may slip thru the cracks but that's life. Get your DD's name out there if she's all that. It's a great venue and well worth the money. Worst case scenario, it puts your DD's talent in perspective to either move forward with the college softball recruitment process or to realize that she's not as good as you thought. So be honest with yourself when watching. Good luck.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/24/16 03:43 PM

Only problem with that statement regarding TLI and Nitro is TLI has proven it gets kids seen and recruited whereas Nitro has no real history of success. Just compare the websites. dKY8Wb
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/24/16 04:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What is Top Prospects and how do you get into it? I was told its one of the top showcase events in Long Island. My daughter plays on a LI Crush and the coaches don't talk highly of Top prospects and I don't know why but if it's that good I would love to see her get into it. Can someone send me info or contact info on who to call?


Top prospects is an invitation only event. Don't let anyone tell you different. They bill it as open to everyone. Not true. Everyone can apply but it is not first come first get. The players are hand picked which makes it a closed event. Which by the way is a direct violation of the NCAA rules when it comes to head coaches be allowed to attend. Wonder if the head coaches know this? If not they should.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/24/16 07:02 PM

Invite only I believe
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/24/16 11:14 PM

I thought it was Christmas not April fools day. Anthony from Nitro gets it? He is not a coach and all he does is rip parents off with those ridiculous lessons he tries to teach. He hasn't a clue and either do Nitro coaches. TLI yes! Nitro no! Not one of there teams is any good. Parents who use Anthony for lessons really should wake up. Your daughter is not getting any better. He is running a business and ripping you off. It's the Dix Hills softball club. As for coaches they are horrible. They have no knowledge of softball. Nice guys just can't coach. Let's look at the 14u team. Word is they are looking to replace the coach with a more knowledge one. As for assistant coach well we all know they are just taking up dugout space.
Once again TLI gets it as well as Angelo. As far as Anthony and Nitro go they are just another money grabbing organization with mediocre teams at best. Maybe in the spring some of the teams can play big girl softball tournaments. Well Merry Christmas to all....
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/25/16 03:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What is Top Prospects and how do you get into it? I was told its one of the top showcase events in Long Island. My daughter plays on a LI Crush and the coaches don't talk highly of Top prospects and I don't know why but if it's that good I would love to see her get into it. Can someone send me info or contact info on who to call?


Top prospects is an invitation only event. Don't let anyone tell you different. They bill it as open to everyone. Not true. Everyone can apply but it is not first come first get. The players are hand picked which makes it a closed event. Which by the way is a direct violation of the NCAA rules when it comes to head coaches be allowed to attend. Wonder if the head coaches know this? If not they should.


Obviously you are wrong. Do you think those coaches will jeopardize their programs? Those compliance officers are known to hound their coaches on every little thing that coyld be a violation. So Know first what you are talking about.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/26/16 07:44 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What is Top Prospects and how do you get into it? I was told its one of the top showcase events in Long Island. My daughter plays on a LI Crush and the coaches don't talk highly of Top prospects and I don't know why but if it's that good I would love to see her get into it. Can someone send me info or contact info on who to call?


Top prospects is an invitation only event. Don't let anyone tell you different. They bill it as open to everyone. Not true. Everyone can apply but it is not first come first get. The players are hand picked which makes it a closed event. Which by the way is a direct violation of the NCAA rules when it comes to head coaches be allowed to attend. Wonder if the head coaches know this? If not they should.




Just checked the website and there is no mention that it is open to everyone. also, all the college coaches need to do is declare that weekend as a recruiting visit and they are legal. Of course contrary to your conspiracy theory that 30 college coaches are collusion of something illegal. LMAO!!!!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/26/16 05:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What is Top Prospects and how do you get into it? I was told its one of the top showcase events in Long Island. My daughter plays on a LI Crush and the coaches don't talk highly of Top prospects and I don't know why but if it's that good I would love to see her get into it. Can someone send me info or contact info on who to call?


Top prospects is an invitation only event. Don't let anyone tell you different. They bill it as open to everyone. Not true. Everyone can apply but it is not first come first get. The players are hand picked which makes it a closed event. Which by the way is a direct violation of the NCAA rules when it comes to head coaches be allowed to attend. Wonder if the head coaches know this? If not they should.


Top Prospects is not Angel or Team LI alone, there is another gentlemen from another Org involved as well. It is an INVITE ONLY event. It's the "good old boys" event which is what it's know as in the travel circuit. You are either a team li parent or have no clue about travel or the event, or maybe both. PLEASE stop talking about things you obviously have no clue about. There are some talented players on the island that could attend this event but why would team li (Angel) invite them? does he really want to help in the recruiting of other kids outside his org on the island? The answer is simple, NO! Yes, it's a paid event for the players if they want to go, and coaches as well get paid to attend. Yes, no question there are a lot of talented players who attend the event from the northeast, but lets not pretend that others don't get invited because of the Org they play for, because we all know that's the truth, no org wants to shed the light and assist another org with players getting recruited, come on people please keep it real and stop insulting us all with your lack of honesty. Let's not make him out to be an "Angel".
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/26/16 05:07 PM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
I thought it was Christmas not April fools day. Anthony from Nitro gets it? He is not a coach and all he does is rip parents off with those ridiculous lessons he tries to teach. He hasn't a clue and either do Nitro coaches. TLI yes! Nitro no! Not one of there teams is any good. Parents who use Anthony for lessons really should wake up. Your daughter is not getting any better. He is running a business and ripping you off. It's the Dix Hills softball club. As for coaches they are horrible. They have no knowledge of softball. Nice guys just can't coach. Let's look at the 14u team. Word is they are looking to replace the coach with a more knowledge one. As for assistant coach well we all know they are just taking up dugout space.
Once again TLI gets it as well as Angelo. As far as Anthony and Nitro go they are just another money grabbing organization with mediocre teams at best. Maybe in the spring some of the teams can play big girl softball tournaments. Well Merry Christmas to all....


Honesty and Truth Finally on this site! So true, so true!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/26/16 05:25 PM

It is time for the 2016 recap. Say what you want Angel is running a business and doing very well at it. But if your DD plays for him she will get looked at by many college coaches you get what you pay for. The Bandits are a have been run into the ground by the current board members and have nothing to offer and will be shutting the down very soon. The 18U level is very weak at best. And nothing coming up. The long island express at the top is also very weak, does have a few teams but again nothing to write home about. The crush is just a mess the coaches haven't changed all they do is yell and scream and the smart ones and better players have moved on. 18 U so call gold team has some talent but graduate and then it is over as well. The Ducks are way to much money and nothing to write home about. The Surge is a business as well as Team Long Island and making a profit the only problem there is you will never see a main field or be seen by anyone except schools from the new York area. Money not well spent if your DD is looking to get off the island. The chiefs are a very good organization and offer a lot for younger girls that are starting out, but once they get pass 14U it is time to move on or you will have is USSSA medals and some memories. Sudden Impact is one dimensional, 18U and that is it. Very Good Gold team but again will be losing 9 seniors all signed and will be rebuilding next year. The Hurricanes have local players not to expensive but again are at the lower end at the 18U Level and can get girls into college but nothing crazy. The Rebels is again ok at the lower levels and a great starting point. Listen to the owner who can sell ice cubes to a snowman and you will find yourself and your DD playing in a few tournament and mostly on the Island. Nitro falls into the running a business category and at the younger levels is a great place to have your DD, plenty of tournament and Practice. But at the older level not so much. Just ask the owners where there DD played you will be surprised to here TLI. The chargers are one of the oldest organizations around but it looks like time has passed the by, very few teams and nothing to speak of at the 18U Level they do have one of the best players on the island but after that weak. I could keep going but the bottom line is moving into the New Year stop and reflect be happy that your DD is playing a sport that she loves and is on a ball field with her friends and not in trouble. Stop and listen to your DD and act like Parents not crazy fans. Challenge your DD abilities, put her in the right organization and place her on the right team. If you choose to leave a team or organization walk away quietly, trust me she will make new friends and will be better off down the road. I hope every player has a healthy and happy new year.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 12/28/16 10:24 PM

Nitro- good people just no clue how to play or coach softball.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/01/17 05:26 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What is Top Prospects and how do you get into it? I was told its one of the top showcase events in Long Island. My daughter plays on a LI Crush and the coaches don't talk highly of Top prospects and I don't know why but if it's that good I would love to see her get into it. Can someone send me info or contact info on who to call?


Top prospects is an invitation only event. Don't let anyone tell you different. They bill it as open to everyone. Not true. Everyone can apply but it is not first come first get. The players are hand picked which makes it a closed event. Which by the way is a direct violation of the NCAA rules when it comes to head coaches be allowed to attend. Wonder if the head coaches know this? If not they should.


Top Prospects is not Angel or Team LI alone, there is another gentlemen from another Org involved as well. It is an INVITE ONLY event. It's the "good old boys" event which is what it's know as in the travel circuit. You are either a team li parent or have no clue about travel or the event, or maybe both. PLEASE stop talking about things you obviously have no clue about. There are some talented players on the island that could attend this event but why would team li (Angel) invite them? does he really want to help in the recruiting of other kids outside his org on the island? The answer is simple, NO! Yes, it's a paid event for the players if they want to go, and coaches as well get paid to attend. Yes, no question there are a lot of talented players who attend the event from the northeast, but lets not pretend that others don't get invited because of the Org they play for, because we all know that's the truth, no org wants to shed the light and assist another org with players getting recruited, come on people please keep it real and stop insulting us all with your lack of honesty. Let's not make him out to be an "Angel".


There is a reason kids join that organization (tli). To guarantee themselves a shot of getting recruited. See you chose a different route. You would rather daddy ball your dd since where else can she learn the most but from you. And in the process you never stopped bad mouthing tli every chance you get. And then you expect Angel just to invite your dd to top prospects? Yeah right. Be real. Its no secret that for the past years a majority of tli kids do get scholarships for softball. Even ypu should know that. Its a process for thia tli kids.
But just keep complaining about things should be. And for those that dont get invited because they are on a different org, then you are on the wrong org.

Oh by the way, i do have a clue.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Travel Organizations - 01/01/17 11:30 AM

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
What is Top Prospects and how do you get into it? I was told its one of the top showcase events in Long Island. My daughter plays on a LI Crush and the coaches don't talk highly of Top prospects and I don't know why but if it's that good I would love to see her get into it. Can someone send me info or contact info on who to call?


Top prospects is an invitation only event. Don't let anyone tell you different. They bill it as open to everyone. Not true. Everyone can apply but it is not first come first get. The players are hand picked which makes it a closed event. Which by the way is a direct violation of the NCAA rules when it comes to head coaches be allowed to attend. Wonder if the head coaches know this? If not they should.


Top Prospects is not Angel or Team LI alone, there is another gentlemen from another Org involved as well. It is an INVITE ONLY event. It's the "good old boys" event which is what it's know as in the travel circuit. You are either a team li parent or have no clue about travel or the event, or maybe both. PLEASE stop talking about things you obviously have no clue about. There are some talented playe